I agree, it is frustrating to talk to people when they just don't get it or jump to the wrong conclusion. The wall is talking back now. I hate to say it was your mistake but it was never my intention to say they didn't design it with a bat motif it's just that I don't see it clearly and don't like it. Your insinuation is that I am stating things that I dont' know anything about where in fact I do and just wanted to express my opinion of such material with those that wanted to read it. I don't feel it's necessary to say my opinion over and over again especically since my last post stated that it was designed to be a bat motif I just don't like it. By saying something in this thread means I know what I'm talking about in reference to information, as I thought we all do, so I just jump to what I see, feel, and think. By saying my statements I would hope that everyone already would know that a Batman fan knew the facts and just wanted to praise them or gripe about them. So, without beating an already dead horse yet again, technically all we are discussing here is my opinion of the car because I knew very clearly what Nolan and team were thinking and tried to do. By saying the third film should have a more bat-ified vehicle does represent my distaste for the previous vehicles eventhough I knew the intention of the film makers.