Batman: Arkham Knight - Part 2

[Naked Shia]

I'd rather him die.

I'd rather die.

I guess I'm the only one who wouldn't mind playing as Batman in the day-time? It would actually be a good way to raise the difficulty and make it easier to be spotted by enemies.

Not to mention daytime Gotham doesn't have to be sunshine and rainbows. It can always look misty and dreary.

Agreed. There are several stories after COIE where he fights during the day, inclyding some great LoTDK stories. Batman is a creature of the night, but IMO, that doesn't mean he should never act during the day.

 

[AnneFan]

I really hope AK is an actual person and not a manifestiation of Bruce having split personality,It'd be interesting but naaa not my preference,An actual brand new character being introduced would be awesome and much better!

Agreed. Batman may have a scarred psyche but he's not crazy. The Arkham games have emphasised his mental power, if anything. Dosed up with ridiculous amounts of fear gas and muscling through it regardless. Refusing to transform into an oversized Titan creature. Etc, etc.

 

[TheFirstAvenger]

I thought this was cool.
http://segmentnext.com/2014/03/25/new-information-batman-arkham-origins/

 

[TX85]

I'm not sure about no mini map in the Batmobile cause that could suck,I'm glad all AC lose ends will be explained and that side quests will blend with the main story

 

[Chip Chipperson]

only thing that would put AK over the top would be the ability to go back and forth to the batcave like in origins.

 

[TX85]

I sure hope that's in!

 

[zenith16]

Batman’s Easter Egg Hunt: Hints That Pointed To Arkham Knight

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Rocksteady has embedded hints about Batman’s next adventure in each of their Arkham games, and we’ve rounded them up here.
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[Two-Face]

So big Easter egg is in the boat where you use sequencer to access. I found that in my second play through.

 

[zenith16]

Shefton hill talks about Arkham Origins and it's not a dev hiding his name this time cause he's worried about being fired

Rocksteady Studios Comments On Batman: Arkham Origins

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on Mar 26, 2014 at 05:45 PM
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Batman: Arkham Knight game director and co-founder of Rocksteady Studios Sefton Hill shares his thoughts on WB Montreal's Batman: Arkham Origins.
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The Amount of Involvement in Origins

"To be honest, mainly we said, 'Make the game you want to make,'" Hill says. "For us the focus is 100 percent on [Arkham Knight], and we didn’t want to try and influence them from afar. We wanted them to be really passionate about the game they wanted to make. The main involvement was, 'Take our code. Make the best Arkham game that you can make. And we don’t want to try and be directing from across the Atlantic.' We were quite busy."

Story Guidelines for Origins

"We had our story down fairly early, so it was quite easy for us to say, 'That’s our story. That’s where we’re going. So just make sure you don’t tread on the toes of that,'" Hill says. "I think it was great for those guys to be able to take ownership rather than think they were just doing something subservient to us. We didn’t want that feeling at all. We wanted those guys to be able to take ownership of what they were doing."

"We definitely consider it canon," Hill says. "There are things through [all] the games, obviously. They have Barbara Gordon in as well and Oracle plays a very key role in our game. So there are things that are connected, for sure. But the events of Asylum and City are actually nearer to the events of Knight so it's easier to tie in to those events."

so they do consider it canon well who ever spoke that was hiding his name is ether in probation or was given the boot. oh well.

 

[The Joker]

Shefton hill talks about Arkham Origins and it's not a dev hiding his name this time cause he's worried about being fired

Rocksteady Studios Comments On Batman: Arkham Origins

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on Mar 26, 2014 at 05:45 PM
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Batman: Arkham Knight game director and co-founder of Rocksteady Studios Sefton Hill shares his thoughts on WB Montreal's Batman: Arkham Origins.
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so they do consider it cannon

I love this:

"We definitely consider it canon," Hill says. "There are things through [all] the games, obviously. They have Barbara Gordon in as well and Oracle plays a very key role in our game. So there are things that are connected, for sure. But the events of Asylum and City are actually nearer to the events of Knight so it's easier to tie in to those events."

End of story for the naysayers. Origins is canon.

 

[TheVileOne]

So much for all the Arkham Origins haters trying to spin the news that Rocksteady hates the game and doesn't consider it canon.

Let's not pretend that writers and fans weren't doing that when news of this title first broke.

 

[zenith16]

the way I see it when when a person is hiding their name or the press is hiding it take with a grain of salt or better yet there's the saying trust but verify til you hear otherwise, keep asking to make sure that's the whole truth.

And don't take that first report as fact til some one like the director and designer (two different people BTW and it depends on the studio) confirm it. some that isn't afraid to hid their name. But til then it's suspect. There has to be more then one source to back certain claims up.

 

[Drz]

Why would anyone even debate about Origins not being canon?

Comic book fans are utterly weird.

 

[Shikamaru]

Personally, I don't consider AO canon. That's not because I hate the game or anything (I like it plus prefer the story over the AA/AC ones), but it has what I call "First Class syndrome". Basically it really works as a prequel in a lot of places, but also contradicts a lot of things from AA/AC. That's why I see AO as a semi-reboot/parallel franchise.

Heck, if WB Montreal comes back for 2 more games that also do the same thing, we might eventually get a Days of Arkham Past game .

 

[Jick]

What would you say contradicted AA and AC?
I didn't notice anything while playing, but maybe I wasn't paying enough attention.

 

[zenith16]

it's the tapes of jokers treatment sessions in both AA and shown in origins . like when he first met harley etc. and by etc it's the red hood issue too with origins . There are two ways to look at it one joker remembers things the way he wants to and feels like when he's talking to anyone. and he's a social path.

But there's the conflict with archive of when harley had her sessions with him which are dated and belong to arkham come pared to the other prison. prior to what origins did. which is both the writers and the person that over see's him the games designer's(Holmes is the director and didn't design it and they're not the same, it's only on rare occasions where someone has both titles too) fault .

But of late this has been happening in some prime time tv shows over the years in north america as well. Especially With writers as well. they have people over seeing them and their supposed to correct stuff like an editor would for any book or mag but they don't always do that and it makes it to print( of what ever books there are) or video and now with games it makes it to launch. it's really weird.

It just mean alot of people that hold certain position these days aren't as good as some people that first started the profession or don't care too much. they are just there in name only.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Personally, I don't consider AO canon. That's not because I hate the game or anything (I like it plus prefer the story over the AA/AC ones), but it has what I call "First Class syndrome". Basically it really works as a prequel in a lot of places, but also contradicts a lot of things from AA/AC. That's why I see AO as a semi-reboot/parallel franchise.

Heck, if WB Montreal comes back for 2 more games that also do the same thing, we might eventually get a Days of Arkham Past game .

Where do you see the contradictions?

I actually feel they bent over backwards to their expense at parts to try to make it fit in for AA/AC. especially with how they had to show the downgrading essentially of their superior depicted Bane to make him match the AA/AC version.

I think of the faults you can find for Origins (mainly the glitches and it feeling more like a AC DLC), the story and characters depictions in the game would not be one of them.

 

[TheVileOne]

There are some contradictions. In the previous games they make it seem like Batman was already "broken" by Bane before. Batman having like the grapnel boost when it's just an untested field prototype in Arkham City.

Harley Quinn meets Joker for the first time in Origins. However in Asylum you can listen to tapes of Quinn interviewing Joker in the ASYLUM and they are apparently speaking for the first time.

Now that being said, a lot of stories have minor story detail contradictions such as this and you can just say, OK, those tapes don't have to taken literally or they were really taken during Quinn and Joker's first sessions at Blackgate or Quinn interviewed him more later when Asylum was reopened.

 

[zenith16]

yeah I said the same thing it's the audio tapes in AA of when harley met joker and in origins Harley meets joker in Blackgate. that's one of the hang ups shika has made that very clear on it, prior to this and the Redhood issue too.

As I said there are two ways to look at it.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Most of those kind of contradictions are the kinds you'd often find in game series made by the exact same developers.

Not to mention I wouldn't take anything the Joker or Harley Quinn says as 100%.

The way Origins ended I saw as almost an exact set-up for the events you see in Asylum. I mean the quincy sharp interview at the end couldn't be more blatant about the connection.

 

[zenith16]

Most of those kind of contradictions are the kinds you'd often find in game series made by the exact same developers.

Not to mention I wouldn't take anything the Joker or Harley Quinn says as 100%.

The way Origins ended I saw as almost an exact set-up for the events you see in Asylum.

yup you can ether look at it as they're social paths which fits or there's the usual that the writer went on with what he felt like writing and the person that was supposed to over see and go over it with the writer after it's done allowed it bio does this insomniac does this an number of studios do this . and didn't think too much on it causing problems. in this case it was both. it's happened and done.

but the latter is happening alot of late in alot of other mediums now though.

 

[Jick]

Most of those kind of contradictions are the kinds you'd often find in game series made by the exact same developers.

Not to mention I wouldn't take anything the Joker or Harley Quinn says as 100%.

I agree. Minor details such as those would hardly make it feel like a parallel timeline to me. Far from that.

 

[BrollySupersj]

I consider Origins non canon because Joker parading under the guise of Black Mask was super duper lame.

 

[The Joker]

it's the tapes of jokers treatment sessions in both AA and shown in origins .

It's the Joker. He's a liar, especially when it comes to talking about his past.

 

[zenith16]

It's the Joker. He's a liar, especially when it comes to talking about his past.

yeah I know I said that twice and he's a social path too. be sides I'm a person that likes to look deeper.