Batman Peed Himself?!

[CConn]

No, Widening Gyre was awesome if you have a sense of humor. That's what it was meant to be. Batman as if he was characterized by a 13yo Batman fan. It comical without actually being comical.

 

[Two-Face=Badass]

No, Widening Gyre was awesome if you have a sense of humor. That's what it was meant to be. Batman as if he was characterized by a 13yo Batman fan. It comical without actually being comical.

How is that remotely comical? It's juvenile. This is like Frank Miller's All Star Batman and Robin where fans defended it by calling it a satire, except here the argument in entirely invalid. Smith's dialog is also entirely unsuited for Batman where he talks nothing like a man of his wealth and education would. Humour in Batman is okay, I've seen magnificent Batman parodies and satires that I would gladly reads as a miniseries. But Gyre is just.....sad, because Smith fails either to tell a good emotional story or a genuinely funny parody - whichever he was aiming for.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

from the funny pics thread:

Yes. But chances are, that Navy SEAL pissed or crapped himself the first time in the field. You're not born a bad ass. You don't even become a bad ass through training, although you do get the skills to be one. You become a bad ass through life experiences.

When you're telling a myth or legend theres things you include and things you don't. Pissing on one's self and wet farts are things you don't include.

 

[Anita18]

from the funny pics thread:

When you're telling a myth or legend theres things you include and things you don't. Pissing on one's self and wet farts are things you don't include.

It seems to me as if the story would be how Batman became a badass via the Kickass plotline.

 

[TimBisley]

I read somewhere that something like 30 percent of soldiers loose control of themselves in a combat situation. Its not ridiculous to think Bruce would piss himself his first night out. I don't see what the big deal is, besides people like to hate on Kevin Smith.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Batman should not be in that 30 percent.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

I will always love smith movies like mallrats and J&SBSB but I must admit that as Ive grown up his humor just doesnt hit it with me anymore. I personally think he hasnt written anything good since Quiver and even though I can live with his pop culture references, his dick and fart jokes really have no place in Batman or many other heroes. BTW Cop-Out was absolutely brutal and I felt like "ok can we move on" in so many of the comedic scenes it was getting annoying.

 

[Sonic1002]

*sigh* And my respect for Morrison continues to increase....

 

[CConn]

How is that remotely comical? It's juvenile.

Again, that's what I mean. It's not funny. But then when you read it and go "whoa, that's just how I would've written Batman when I was 13 (IE, a juvenile), it becomes strangely enjoyable.

This is like Frank Miller's All Star Batman and Robin where fans defended it by calling it a satire, except here the argument in entirely invalid. Smith's dialog is also entirely unsuited for Batman where he talks nothing like a man of his wealth and education would. Humour in Batman is okay, I've seen magnificent Batman parodies and satires that I would gladly reads as a miniseries. But Gyre is just.....sad, because Smith fails either to tell a good emotional story or a genuinely funny parody - whichever he was aiming for.

That's where we simply disagree. I think his story was particularly emotional when it came to the Bruce/Silver love story. But to each his own.

 

[Two-Face=Badass]

That's where we simply disagree. I think his story was particularly emotional when it came to the Bruce/Silver love story. But to each his own.

Was this before or after Smith fridged Silver with all the grace of a dislocated shoulder?

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Again, that's what I mean. It's not funny. But then when you read it and go "whoa, that's just how I would've written Batman when I was 13 (IE, a juvenile), it becomes strangely enjoyable.

It's garbage that should've never been published by a "professional" company. Everyone who buys that is part of the problem.

 

[Drz]

Yes how dare people buy good comics! Truly this is a problem in DC!

 

[TimBisley]

Well, unlike you MD, I don't think Bruce should have been perfect as Batman at first. Of course when he first encountered criminals it might not go well, not to mention super criminals. Hell, he screwed up badly in Year One, and people treat that as the only Batman story that matters.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Batman also had diaherra at some point of his career so he couldn't go on patrol, but that doesn't mean you should feature it in a story. Oh, I guess, it should, because it's "hilarious". Elseworld, out of continuity or whatever the image created still sticks with the people, subconsciously or even more directly and has a certain influence on future things. For example, the Bat-Man might be portrayed as dark and violent as it gets, people will still think about Adam West. That's undeletable in the heads of the people. Thinking about something is one thing, creating and publishing an official story is another one. Batman is now "The Man Who Pissed Himself", no matter of continuity or not. Just imagine if someone wants to write an article about the industry in a respected magazine, these kind of things will be the first he finds. Doesn't bother most of you, but your superhero comics will never been seen respected as an art form.

 

[Drz]

Oh lord the 90s and comic fans themselves are far worse than Widening Gyre. It's the comic fans who constantly support event stories and whatnot, shock value drama of character deaths and resurrections. Smith writing a great story with humor, love, action and practically everything that defines Batman is in this story. Even the TDKR had alot of humour, which people found tasteless with the political satire, but god forgive Smith having Batman piss himself.

U mad.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Oh lord the 90s and comic fans themselves are far worse than Widening Gyre. It's the comic fans who constantly support event stories and whatnot, shock value drama of character deaths and resurrections. Smith writing a great story with humor, love, action and practically everything that defines Batman is in this story. Even the TDKR had alot of humour, which people found tasteless with the political satire, but god forgive Smith having Batman piss himself.

U mad.

political satire is something different than pissing yourself.

 

[Drz]

Yes, some laugh at different aspects of humour and some complain like you are.

Deal with it.

 

[TimBisley]

Was him pissing himself supposed to be funny? I thought it was to illustrate exactly how scary and dangerous what Bruce is doing is. Its one scene in one comic and people are blowing it way out of proportion. As if it shattered this feeble reality you live in. "But, but Batman iz the best! He doesnt piss himself like some girl!" He's human.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

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[MessiahDecoy123]

Nobody want see mythic and legendary heroes do stuff like drool, piss themselves, or fart.

That's the point of a myth or legend. You leave out the embarrassing stuff.

You can bring humanity to a hero in more dignified ways.

 

[C. Lee]

It all seems pretty simple to me.

Even though it is a known fact that many people will piss or crap themselves in certain high stress situations...NO ONE wants to read about thier hero doing it. There is no way to make it a heroic situation...and a writer who writes a scenerio where a well known respected hero does it, does not care for the hero or the fans of that hero.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Yes, some laugh at different aspects of humour and some complain like you are.

Deal with it.

This kind of humor is the lowest form of all. It's cheap and worthless.

Coming up next: "Wonder Woman is out to fight crime --- but she has PMS! A blood-soaked adventure. "

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Was him pissing himself supposed to be funny? I thought it was to illustrate exactly how scary and dangerous what Bruce is doing is. Its one scene in one comic and people are blowing it way out of proportion. As if it shattered this feeble reality you live in. "But, but Batman iz the best! He doesnt piss himself like some girl!" He's human.

It was done for cheap laughs. Nothing else. You can show someone fail in other ways, Year One did that. In the 70s Batman got knocked out by some generic punks at times, so you don't describe MY thinking. I can deal with a weak Batman. In fact, I embrace the non-Batgod approach.

 

[TimBisley]

Seriously? Thats you're argument? "No one wants to see their hero do human things!" Um, unlike you, I don't like things whitewashed. I shouldn't be surprised that people take this one incident and blow it way out of proportion, but I constantly am. I'm pretty sure Kevin Smith wasn't thinking "EFF those Batman fans! This will really ruin their day. Har har Batman peed himself. I so funnyz" I took it as Bruce being scared, which makes sense considering the circumstance. This is honestly on of the most ridiculous things I've seen fans get upset about.

 

[Frankenmation]

Batman is now "The Man Who Pissed Himself", no matter of continuity or not. Just imagine if someone wants to write an article about the industry in a respected magazine, these kind of things will be the first he finds. Doesn't bother most of you, but your superhero comics will never been seen respected as an art form.

Wow, overreact much?

Maybe it's just me but I really can't see this having a mega impact on the character in years to come, it'll probably be forgotten soon. Far more strange things have happened to Batman, and in the comic industry altogether.