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Batman & Son, Assault on Arkham announced

Indeed. Im glad I only rented it, most dcau movies I end up owning. Coming from a huge fan of the Arkham games its needless to say Im disappointed this didn't have the same cool swag the games have.

Out of the most recent crop of movies this one is the weakest to me, I liked liked son of batman just a tad bit more, and JL war was pretty decent save for GL being really annoying and superman not having enough to say imo. If I had to rank them they'd be close:

Assault on Arkham - 5
Son of batman - 6
JL: war - 7
JL: Flashpoint - 7.5

All I can say is DC has been slipping on these animated features lately, the last ones I really enjoyed were superman unbound and the TDKR movies, and most others before those.
 
Flashpoint is excellent, Arkham is decent, and War is an atrocity (my opinion of course). Haven't seen Son of Batman, and don't think I will judging by the reviews.
 
I'll get a little reveiw up for it later... but I actually think Assault on Arkham was by far the best release by Tucker & Co this year.

It was certainly more enjoyable than War or Son Of Batman.
 
same here. I thought flashpoint and war were entertaining, but kinda bland. Son of batman was bland and boring. Assault on arkham, on the other hand, was really fun, even though I think the designs were kinda bland.
 
Friggin I thought Assault was great, best Conroy Bat voice I have heard in a while.
 
really? I'm not a fan of Conroy, but I really thought he was weak in this one. It felt even more overacted than usual to me.
 
How can you not be a fan of Conroy?
 
I do feel that Conroy has slipped somewhat since his days on Justice League Unlimited. Sometimes he knocks it out of the park (Batman: Gotham Knight, JL: Doom) and other times he is a little weak (Injustice: Gods Among Us, Arkham City).

Listen to his voice on Batman: The Animated Series. He's younger and is definitely pushing his voice to achieve the sound... but it's really sublime:

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By the time he gets to Justice League, he's older and the sound has become more natural for him. He's clearly straining his voice less and it's performances like this that made him the pre-eminent Bat-voice:

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Whereas, today, he's pushing the performance a tad too much at times. His bat-voice can lack that quiet confidence it used to have, and yes, at times he over-acts. It's rare, but it does happen.

I think he saves his best work for Andrea Romano and Bruce Timm (Or perhaps Timm is able to pull him back).

In saying that, I love him. He's still my all time favourite Bat-voice and I hope he's voicing him for many years yet, but there's no denying he's not exactly at his peak anymore.
 
I didn't grow with him. and when I discovered him after all the praise, he wasn't that great.
 
the one I remember more fondly from my childhood is the french actor from TAS, Richard Darbois. He's also the french dubber for Harrison Ford and Richard Gere. His voice is mature, full of confidence, but also full of compassion. He played a really well rounded Bruce and Batman, and it was really fitting for TAS. Even as today, I still think he did an amazing job. A pity he didn't work on Jl nor JLU.
The new french dubber is really great too, but in a different way.

I think my favourite batvoices are Richard Darbois, Keaton in Batman Returns, and Adam West.
 
Well, if French is your first language, that's understandable.

Growing up as a kid, it was only Kevin Conroy or old reruns of SuperFriends with Olan Soule's voice. I can appreciate Soule now, but after being exposed to Keaton and Conroy first... he just sounded weird.
 
I really think growing with a voice, play a huge part in your appreciation of said voice.
 
Better late than never:

Son Of Batman - Review:

Better late than never:
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After the underwhelming (or perhaps over-bearing) nature of Justice League: War, it would be easy to forgive anyone looking forward to a more contained, satisfying Batman adventure. After all, my interests primarily lie with The Dark Knight and this feature seemed to be filled with exciting potential. The title alone raises an eyebrow, but once you throw in international terrorists, femme fatales, exotic locations and giant Bat-Creatures, you can't help but feel that your in for a fun ride. Sadly, Son Of Batman squanders it's potential, resulting in one of the most disappointing entries in the DC Universe line so far.

The feature claims to be based on the recent 'New 52' initiative, but that link (apart from some updated costumes) seems tenuous at best. Son Of Batman actually takes it's cues from the 2006 Grant Morrison penned Batman and Son – a four issue tale, illustrated by Andy Kubert that punched fanboys in the face with the shocking arrival of Bruce Wayne's biological son, Damian. Naturally, fans despised the insolent, violent child without hesitation. However, after eight years of constant exposure and along with some of Morrison's skilled capability at handling characterization (Talia Al Ghul excluded), most warmed to this precocious new Robin and felt a strong pang of grief when he was brought to a bloody end earlier last year.

It was quite a story, so it's no surprise that the crew behind the DC Universe animated features decided to mine it for the DVD line. The screenplay remains relatively faithful to Morrison's vision, apart from two significant additions. The first is the inclusion of Deathstroke and his desire for revenge. Personally, I found the character to be one of the weakest elements of the movie. His motivations were merely perfunctionary and he was graced with one of the worst voices to ever appear in a DC DVD. Gibson was hammy, stilted and downright laughable in his performance. A rare miss for Andrea Romano. The other change to the source material was substituting Tim Drake for Dick Grayson/Nightwing. This was a more welcome addition, as it cut out all the unnecessary fat of explaining the Robin legacy. You simply do not have time for such meandering diversions in a 75 minute movie.

Overall, the characterizations seemed to be somewhat off. Batman was far too non-chalant at discovering he had a son and Talia too cold-hearted/manipulative to both her son and Bruce Wayne. Her reconciliation with Bruce at the end didn't seem justified in the least. If the writer wanted us to feel that these two were star-crossed lovers, then he didn't give us enough pieces to fit that puzzle together. On top of all that, while Damian is fighting for his life against Deathstroke, Batman is just lying around having a clichéd and under-developed romantic moment with Talia. Um, Bruce, your son is about to be killed... how about you at least try to save him? Joe R. Lansdale is usually an exceptional writer, capable of blending genres with humour, mystery, tension and action all rolled into one. He produced some of the best episodes of Batman: The Animated Series, so I'll always value him highly, but this, unfortunately, was not his best work.

The animation and designs were merely serviceable. Phil Bourassa has been a fan-favourite for years now, but his recent experimental work isn't entirely to my tastes. He is veering more and more towards animé styling, a problem only exasperated by The AnswerStudio, who often animates the characters with an eastern vibe and weird mouths/mouth movements. The feature does look quite nice overall (some of the backgrounds are quite stunning), but it all comes across as very average in the end.

The voicework doesn't fare much better. As I mentioned, Andrea Romano must have been having an off week when she assembled this cast. Jason O Mara is gradually improving as the Caped Crusader, but his delivery is often-times too lethargic. Yes, I suppose he is going for a gruff, quiet tone, but it needs more light and shade if he's ever going to become a memorable Batman. Stuart Allan was surprisingly effective as Damian Wayne. I'm not sure I had a distinct voice in my head when reading the comics, but he did a pretty good job capturing the bratty personality. Morena Baccarin was asleep at the wheel, Giancarlo Esposito may be my least favourite Ra's Al Ghul voice and Xander Berkeley made no real impression as Langstrom.

This is also one of the rare times that I don't have much to say about the score. Frederik Wiedmann delivered an effective, if not entirely memorable, effort. I'm usually singing his praises, so I was hoping for a little more if I'm being honest.

This movie should have delivered a lot more than it did and could have been one of the most entertaining DC features thanks to it's unique source material. Sadly, it just kind of sits flat on the screen. I don't want to be too negative as there is still fun to be had – great fight choreography, nice Batman/Gordon moments, a highly sarcastic Alfred and a wonderfully creepy scene in Arkham Asylum (using one of my favourite Asylum designs from the old The Batman cartoon). It's certainly not the most boring or forgettable DC Universe movie, not with Green Lantern: Emerald Knights and Superman: Unbound in the line, but it is one of the most underwhelming and disappointing. What should have been a riveting James Bond-ian adventure wrapped in a Batman cape, is instead a bit of a jumbled mess, with inconsistent storytelling, average animation, poor voice-acting and a bland score. Oh well, here's hoping Batman versus Robin will fare much better.

5/10
 
Just finished Assault on Arkham. Decent movie. Conroy is still god. Son of Batman? Meh.

So for the last few DC outings:

Assault on Arkham - 7
Son of Batman - 6.5
Justice League War - 5 (The only good part of this movie was Supes giving Bats an asswhipping)
 
I have all these dc universe movies on blu ray and I love them all for what they are. Each has a different look and feel to them. I dont give a rats about who does the voice work and I understand that you cant adapt all parts to a story like sub plots and other characters in from a comic. Of course there are movis in there that I enjoy more than others. I love the action in these. Ive never understood the too much action comments because Id rather see these heros show their powers/moves but have character moments inbetween those fights. In 75 minutes I want them to be as action packed as possible.
 
My ranking would be
Flashpoint - 9.5
War - 5
Son of Batman - 5
Assault on Arkham - 8.5

Don't see how you could say arkham was worse than son of batman. Thought war and son of batman were pretty bad and Arkham was great not the best story but everything else was great. Flashpoint is one of my favorites
 
Most of my complaints about Assault were things that they had no reason for screwing up - Joker's white lips, not using the music/themes from the games, some of the character redesigns.

I do want another one though - rather it be centred around Dick Greyson's beginnings in the Arkham world though.
 
I watched Assault on Arkham last night and I really enjoyed it. It was an interesting take on how Criminals view Batman. I liked how they had to sneak in sewers to avoid him. At first I was like, who are half of these characters? I had to look most of them up. Lol, apparently w/ the exception of Harley, All of these members were apart of the crew that attacked Supes/Bats in Public Enemies.

I'm not sure I needed to see a love triangle between Harley,Joker/Deadshot but it worked well enough. Funniest part for me is when the Joker held Black Spider's head in his hands. "Denzel, what have they done to you!?" lol, had me rolling.
 
Batman: Assault on Arkham review:

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The DC Universe line of movies have been released at an alarming pace since September 2007. That's just over 7 years and an astounding 21 movies later (With no end in sight). It's been a hugely successful venture for the most part, but sadly 2014 has not been one of it's better years. It would perhaps be unfair to point the finger at James Tucker as being the main reason for the dip in quality, but something is definitely off and, frankly, it started once he began overseeing the line. Thankfully, Batman: Assault on Arkham is the most entertaining and interesting of the 2014 slate. The film is a loose tie-in of sorts to the popular Batman: Arkham videogame franchise, but focuses on characters who haven't received much of the spotlight so far.

If the truth be told, this movie should have been called Suicide Squad: Assault on Arkham, as it's really their story and not Batman's, but hey, we all know that wouldn't sell. WB and DC seem intent on pushing the Suicide Squad on us and this may as well be the starter course, considering all the rumours of an upcoming videogame and the fully-fledged live-action movie adaptation. So, yes, it's actual connection to the Arkham games is more of a marketing ploy than a natural progression from the series, but at least WB are trying to expose other characters from the DC library. If slapping the Batman brand on the front cover sells a few thousand more copies, then who can blame WB for being mindful of better business.

The story takes on the guise of an Ocean Eleven's tale gone bad. Amanda Waller (''The Wall'') assembles a group of dangerous and devious criminals, under the protocol 'Task Force X' and instructs them to break into Arkham Asylum to retrieve sensitive information that The Riddler has stolen from her. Meanwhile, Batman is on the trail of a dirty bomb that The Joker has planted somewhere in the city. Naturally, he too winds up in Arkham, where we are treated to twists, turns, mayhem and violence galore.

Batman is essentially the antagonist of the movie, interrupting and jeopardizing our ''heroes'' mission. Despite his lack of screentime, Batman's appearances throughout the movie are intense, potent and often quite badass. This is definitely the strong, forceful and no nonsense Dark Knight that we saw in Rocksteady's games. Batman's various fight sequences are wonderfully staged. There was a tremendous sense of kinetic energy that was missing from the last few DVD's. Sadly, due to the limited screentime, Kevin Conroy didn't exactly have a lot to do. It's always a joy to hear him, but I wish he would get meatier material. I suppose that's a selfish request after 23 years of him (almost) dominating the role but if he's going to be used it would be nice to see him in a more substantial project. Regardless, he was great in this movie.

I personally don't know an awful lot about the suicide squad, so I don't know how faithful this team formation is to the source material. Despite this, it seems like the filmmakers choose the appropriate characters. Deadshot was a natural, charismatic leader. Captain Boomerang and Harley Quinn brought the humour, while Killer Frost and King Shark delivered some ferocity. Only Black Spider seemed really expendable and I can't say I'll miss him all that much. This brings up an interesting question for me with these characters. They provided something fresh for 75 minutes but would they sustain more movies like this? Apart from Deadshot, we aren't exactly invited to learn about any back stories.

Jay Oliva has stated many times that he wanted to approach this movie differently, more like a Guy Ritchie production and he certainly achieves that. The atypical opening, the split screens, wildly energetic music and above all, the sex and violence. They definitely push the boundaries of the PG-13 rating and I must admit, seeing Harley stark naked (even from the back) looking for sex was a little unsettling. Where is the cute, funny girl that use to bounce around episodes of Batman: The Animated Series? I don't think it's out of character but it was quite the odd moment. The violence was much more gratuitous, although I suppose if they have to blow up people heads multiple times... this is the project to do it with.

One of the major elements I was disappointed with was the climax of the film. Once again The Joker frees the patients of the Asylum in a mass breakout. It was fun in a game setting a few years ago but it's kind of been done to death now. I understand it was crafted to produce a bigger action set piece and villain cameos but truthfully, I could have done without it.

The animation from Moi was quite typical of their usual excellent standard. The characters moved with fluidity and always kept their shape. The only negative aspect (more of a nitpick) was that sometimes the mouth movements were a little off, never quite matching up to the dialogue at times. It's a minor thing but it's becoming more and more frequent in these productions (Son of Batman being particularly guilty).

The voice actors deserve a lot of praise. The stand outs were most assuredly Hynden Walch and Troy Baker. In my opinion, Walch is the rightful successor to Arleen Sorkin. She pulls off a much more sincere Harley than Tara Strong, who I find far too whiny and high-pitched. Walch's voice, coupled with a great design, produced an excellent version of Harley. Arguably the most enjoyable version since Sorkin left the role. She completely stole the show. Everyone else gave stellar performances, except for Chris Cox as Gordon, who seemed woefully miscast. Matthew Gray Gubler deserves a special mention for capturing Riddler's arrogance with ease.

Robert J Kral did an exceptional job with the music. A nice hybrid of classic superhero scoring and a more electronic/techno vibe, resulting in an enthralling score that I'll be more than happy to listen to once I purchase the CD. Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Kral reuse his Batman theme from Gotham Knight? It sounded quite familiar.

It's hard to know who to recommend Batman: Assault on Arkham to. There's not an awful lot here for Batman fans to chew on (He's either chasing a bomb madly or in incognito for most of it). Fans of the Arkham series might be somewhat disappointed as, outside of a possible sequel to Arkham Origins, it doesn't really add all that much to the universe. I suppose it is nice to see this design of Arkham again. This film will no doubt be very divisive, but I say stick it on and simply see if it does anything for you. It entertained me well enough for 75 minutes. At least the filmmakers tried to do something different and deserve to be commended. However, Tucker and Co. really need to step it up with the next batch of films if the line is to regain any kind of assured quality. Batman: Assault on Arkham is a fun, violent little romp that's well worth at least one viewing... even if it is only for some great Bat-action and a Harley Quinn that steals the show.


7/10
 
I'm excited to re-watch Assault on Arkham before Suicide Squad comes out in August. I really enjoyed this film the first time around.
 
I just re-watched Batman: Assault on Arkham and still enjoyed it a second time around. The action sequences are pretty well done here.
 
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Re-watching Son of Batman at times felt like a chore. There were only a few parts of the film which I thought were okay, but this film set the bar really low for the other Batman based films in this continuity. Damian Wayne is really obnoxious in this film and his character growth has been really slow in the span of all three Batman based films and the Justice League vs. Teen Titans film. I can honestly say that he's the most annoying character in all of these films, and that's saying a lot because I can't stand quite a few of them.
 

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