Batman Triumphant

[gadgetfusion]

It's important here to remember that Schumacher's plans for Batman 5 changed considerably over time. At first it was a straight sequel to B&R, then it became darker (he said he, 'owed the fans' the Batman movie they wanted). Then he was the first to suggest a Year One movie to the Warner Bros board, which did go into some stage of pre-production.


Anyway, here is what Total Film magazine reported in the late 90's:

- The Scarecrow makes Batman hallucinate previous enemies, although the only actor genuinely considered for this was Jack Nicholson

- Nicholson said in a 1997 press-conference, "The Joker is coming, and that's no laughing matter." He also told the press he wrote a storyline of how the Joker could return.

- Harley Quinn would either be the Joker's wife or daughter, out for revenge.

- Dick goes to college where he find Jonathan Crane doing fear experiments.

- Batmobile chases the Scarecrow on horseback thru dark woods in a homage to Sleepy Hollow (not the film).

- Schumacher was so fascinated by CGI he wanted to create Batmite.

- Would have been Schumacher's last movie.

Wow, that looks like it would've been worse than B&R!

Joel Schumacher and Bat-Mite would've been a terrible combination. Bat-Mite's awesome and all but he's about as gay as Batsuit nipples. I also heard that Harley Quinn was going to be Joker's daughter, which is just wrong. The Batmobile-horse chase in the woods sounds stupid. There's no word on Batgirl which sucks. Scarecrow sounds good, but Joel might've screwed him up terribly. Jack Nicholson returning as The Joker sounds like the only thing good about the movie.

But still, if it was actually released, I probably would've seen it anyways.

 

[The Shredder]

Well from what has been posted about the premise, it certainly seems it had alot more potential to be something memorable unlike the crap that is Batman & Robin. Seeing Jack Nicholson reprise the role of The Joker might have been worth the price of admission alone. As I've read that playing The Joker was one of his favourite roles. Not to mention, most lucrative as well.

I remember watching a quick behind the scenes special on B&R back in 1997, with Dan Rather (I think) adding that Shumacher plans to make another Batman film sooner rather than later, which would feature, The Joker's Wife. Which of course, was supposed to be Harley Quinn. Although I've read the Harley character was supposed to be anyone from Alicia from Batman 1989, to Jack Napier's very own daughter seeking revenge for her father's death. Another thing I remember quite vividly, is Howard Stern's annoying lobbying to play the part of The Scarecrow. Which isnt surprising since he just completed Private Parts. Although I believe Schumacher shot that idea down. Had no idea about Bat-Mite being included into the film, but that doesnt sound too hot to me. But it's plausible since thats yet another Bat-Toy they could have sold from the merchandise machine.

 

[Two-Face]

I'm glad it wasn't made, sounds worse then Batman & Robin.

 

[Noir]

I read on BOF that it wasn't batmite it was Man-bat.

 

[gadgetfusion]

I read on BOF that it wasn't batmite it was Man-bat.

That was for an early Batman Triumphant script (called Batman Darknight) which had a Scarecrow/Man-Bat villain team.

 

[Noir]

That was for an early Batman Triumphant script (called Batman Darknight) which had a Scarecrow/Man-Bat villain team.

I'd have seen that flick.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Was gonna have Man-Bat, Scarecrow, and Harley from what I've heard.

 

[The Shredder]

Certainly seems like it would have been much darker in overall tone than what we saw with the "toy-etic", and equally craptacular, B&R.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Still would have had the awesome neon city.

 

[The Shredder]

Just not to the B&R neon extent hopefully.

 

[BurtonBegan]

Sounds terrible, schumacer is a dick and just didnt know what he was doing. Batman and robin is on sky one as I write this and its sickening

 

[Two-Face]

Sounds terrible, schumacer is a dick and just didnt know what he was doing. Batman and robin is on sky one as I write this and its sickening

I just skipped Sky One, good thing I did.

 

[Blade90]

For the people who were asking for it awhile back, here was the supposed new Bat symbol for 'Batman Triumphant':

Weird looking, if you ask me. I don't why people are saying Clooney was bad. I'd blame it on the script and director, to be honest. He certainly had the 'Bruce Wayne look' and if he'd done the raspy voice effort, he probably wouldve made a good Batman.

 

[Noir]

For the people who were asking for it awhile back, here was the supposed new Bat symbol for 'Batman Triumphant':

Weird looking, if you ask me. I don't why people are saying Clooney was bad. I'd blame it on the script and director, to be honest. He certainly had the 'Bruce Wayne look' and if he'd done the raspy voice effort, he probably wouldve made a good Batman.

That was the Movie logo not the actual Batlogo.

 

[fabman]

I think that's what he meant...

 

[lordofthenerds]

For the people who were asking for it awhile back, here was the supposed new Bat symbol for 'Batman Triumphant':

Weird looking, if you ask me. I don't why people are saying Clooney was bad. I'd blame it on the script and director, to be honest. He certainly had the 'Bruce Wayne look' and if he'd done the raspy voice effort, he probably wouldve made a good Batman.

Nice. I added "Triumphant" in there just to see how it would look..

 

[Mr. Socko]

Looks experimental, but still crap. If Batman had that on his chest I'd barf.

 

[The Shape]

Eh. Part of me wants to see how this project would have turned out, with Nicholson as the Joker again. But most of me is glad that it never happened.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Nicholson must have been drugged up by Schumacher when he said he would return for Batman: Triumphant. I just can't believe an actor of such high caliber would be in kind of sequel to Batman & Robin. It's hard for me to believe. Heck, even Arnold Schwarzenegger didn't even want to be in B&R. Schumacher bugged him to death and told him if he didn't sign on the film would never be made and everything would go to waste.

On another note, I highly doubt Clooney would have returned to be Batman.

 

[The Shredder]

I believe one of the few hooks that may have prompted Clooney to return after B&R if yet another Schumacher sequel was given the greenlight, would be the idea that he could return the franchise back to the success that it had previously seen prior to the B&R effort. Clooney has gone public about his feelings that he was one of the major contributers to the death of the franchise. Batman: Triumphant may have given him an opportunity to vindicate himself a bit. But fortunately, or unfortunately, that never came to be.

As far as Nicholson goes, I've read somewhere that Nicholson has admitted that The Joker is one of his more favourite roles that he's had in his career. And is a portrayal that he himself watches from time to time as well. That right there may give one some idea why he might have been somewhat open to reprise the role of The Joker one more time, but the jury is out on whether that would have ultimately happened or not.

 

[Man on Fire]

I think it would of been better than batman and robin but im glad we got batman begins then triuphant

 

[Rockbottom]

Also Jack is such a big star that he could have a big say in the movie, if he didnt like it, more than likely they would move around it to suit him. Theres another reason.

 

[Gotham22]

I did here Triumphant was going to send Batman back to his darker roots.

 

[Blade90]

Clooney has gone public about his feelings that he was one of the major contributers to the death of the franchise.

No offense, but he's full of crap. Again, did he write the script? Did he direct the film? No. Then why is he blaming himself? He came there to do a job, and he did it, no matter how bad it turned out because Shumacher DIRECTED him into doing so badly. I blame Shumacher and Akiva aswell as WB, but more WB than those two.

 

[The Shredder]

None taken. I theorize the reason Clooney blames himself for having a hand in B&R's failure is because he probably feels that compared to the other actor's who donned the Batsuit in the WB film series at the time, his portrayal was the weakest of the bunch. And honestly, I have to say I agree wholeheartedly. But I also agree that the film's failure wasnt exactly his fault alone either. That's silly. True, Clooney's Batman left much to be desired, but the film itself was the weakest of the Batman films to date as well, and no doubt that played a very big hand in the movie ultimately being one of the the absolute worst comic book based films of all time.