BvS Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice News, Set & Official Photo Thread - - Part 16

[GreenKToo]

I wouldn't like it. Not. One. Bit.

Poseidon, as gods usually are, is a *****ebag. Besides Justice League should represent "gods on Earth" in allegorical way, not literal one.

I should have made myself more clear, my bad.
I'm not saying he is a literal God, but pehaps he is the reason for the poseidon myths..If I'm not mistaken the WW in this is long lived also so its possible.

 

[The Slang]

Not to piss anyone off, but when I first heard the rumors of Wonder woman possibly being of Kryptonian decent, I thought that Aqua man might be too. We already know that Superman can't drown, and he's durable enough to survive the pressure at the bottom of the ocean.
You could simplify the DC universe by saying that Wonder woman and Aquaman are the human hybrid descendants of the Kryptonians that came to earth in the 10 000 year old scout ship we saw in MOS.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Not to piss anyone off, but when I first heard the rumors of Wonder woman possibly being of Kryptonian decent, I thought that Aqua man might be too. We already know that Superman can't drown, and he's durable enough to survive the pressure at the bottom of the ocean.
You could simplify the DC universe by saying that Wonder woman and Aquaman are the human hybrid descendants of the Kryptonians that came to earth in the 10 000 year old scout ship we saw in MOS.

I've thought the same thing and I would not be surprised if they went for that angle. People wouldn't like it but it seems an easy way to keep things tidy.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Thankfully they're not going with that.

WW has already been confirmed as Zeus daughter by one of the producers though I would've liked the clay origin.

 

[KillerWolf]

I should have made myself more clear, my bad.
I'm not saying he is a literal God, but pehaps he is the reason for the poseidon myths..If I'm not mistaken the WW in this is long lived also so its possible.

Ah, I see. It could be interesting, I guess.

As for WW, I don't recall anything being mentioned about her longevity.

Not to piss anyone off, but when I first heard the rumors of Wonder woman possibly being of Kryptonian decent, I thought that Aqua man might be too. We already know that Superman can't drown, and he's durable enough to survive the pressure at the bottom of the ocean.
You could simplify the DC universe by saying that Wonder woman and Aquaman are the human hybrid descendants of the Kryptonians that came to earth in the 10 000 year old scout ship we saw in MOS.

It would simplify it for sure, but it would make the universe too small and much less diverse if every superpowered character were of Kryptonian origin.

I think that an idea of Atlanteans being humans that due to extraordinary circumstances evolved differently should be enough. And they are superstrong on surface because of their long-term exposure to high pressures under water. Or they could bring some divine interference, whether it's Poseidon or some Polynesian god, like it's the case with Wonder Woman.

It is still keeping it simple and I believe it works.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Thankfully they're not going with that.

WW has already been confirmed as Zeus daughter by one of the producers though I would've liked the clay origin.

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[Boom]

I want gods. Greek gods, New gods, the whole shebang.

 

[The Slang]

Ah, I see. It could be interesting, I guess.

As for WW, I don't recall anything being mentioned about her longevity.



It would simplify it for sure, but it would make the universe too small and much less diverse if every superpowered character were of Kryptonian origin.

I think that an idea of Atlanteans being humans that due to extraordinary circumstances evolved differently should be enough. And they are superstrong on surface because of their long-term exposure to high pressures under water. Or they could bring some divine interference, whether it's Poseidon or some Polynesian god, like it's the case with Wonder Woman.

It is still keeping it simple and I believe it works.

Yeah that could work. Is the 10 000 year old Kryptonian ship going to have any significance later? I felt like they were going for a 'chariots of the gods' thing by suggesting that super powered humanoids came to earth in prehistoric times.

 

[KillerWolf]

Yeah that could work. Is the 10 000 year old Kryptonian ship going to have any significance later? I felt like they were going for a 'chariots of the gods' thing by suggesting that super powered humanoids came to earth in prehistoric times.

Who can tell?

For whatever reason it was put there it was interesting in that way and was definitely a nod to theory related whether to Dogons or some other civilizations/tribes. It's been speculated that it has something to do with Kara Zor-El, since "S" symbol could be seen in the last panel.

And of course they did:

Don't you recognize the Jetsons family car here?

 

[Airwings]

I agree.

We'll see if they'll deliver when it comes to characterization.

We could end up with a poorly written character who looks like a wild beast, just to cover it up.

Arthur really comes off as an un-tamed, savage force here. I bet he growls too.
If he truly looks like this, he might be an outcast warrior from the underwater kingdom who had to leave their army due to his brutal and violent ways. He was never a royalty.
But why isn't he all nobel and sophisticated like the other ones?
Because he's half-human, that's why.

just a thought, but what if this aquaman is pretty much immortal ( or close to it ) and he IS the poseidon of old that was talked about.

No father from the surface world, then!
Here we change just EVERYTHING

You know that in this scenario, Aquaman would be Wonder Woman's uncle, don't you?

Not to piss anyone off, but when I first heard the rumors of Wonder woman possibly being of Kryptonian decent, I thought that Aqua man might be too. We already know that Superman can't drown, and he's durable enough to survive the pressure at the bottom of the ocean.
You could simplify the DC universe by saying that Wonder woman and Aquaman are the human hybrid descendants of the Kryptonians that came to earth in the 10 000 year old scout ship we saw in MOS.

Yeah, away with the Atlantis/Lemuria/whatever it's called stuff, and just let him be a descendent of Kryptonians from thousands of years ago. He has water-based powers just because of evolution, as the Kryptonians went hiding in Polynesia and stayed there forever.
There's no place for a mythological underwater kingdom anyway. It's too fantastical and "meaty" for the DCU. Just simplify everything! Always rely on tech, not magic.

 

[The Slang]

Who can tell?

For whatever reason it was put there it was interesting in that way and was definitely a nod to theory related whether to Dogons or some other civilizations/tribes. It's been speculated that it has something to do with Kara Zor-El, since "S" symbol could be seen in the last panel.

And of course they did:

Don't you recognize the Jetsons family car here?

Yeah I've seen that image. Some of those symbols do look suspiciously like vehicles. Not sure how to explain it.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

From someone who is not at all an Aquaman purist, here's my perspective

1. This single image sends the message that Aquaman is powerful, menacing, and not to be trifled with. It is a necessary and successful visual re-branding of the character who is mostly thought of as a useless punchline by the GA.

2. Rather than looking like another clean cut, typical hero (eg Bats, Supes, Flash, GL), his appearance adds some needed visual variety to the JL.

3. Momoa is an islander and I'm glad they are playing that up for the character. For me, it's more believable and adds more diversity to the team.

 

[KillerWolf]

Yeah I've seen that image. Some of those symbols do look suspiciously like vehicles. Not sure how to explain it.

I find them intriguing in certain way, though not because I believe they really represent spacecrafts. Human mind tends to recognize familiar objects in ambiguous shapes (like how we can see animals or faces in clouds), so just because it looks like helicopters or spacecrafts to us, it doesn't mean that it objectively does so too.

But it doesn't make it any less interesting to me.

And that moth on the left could be a real deal though. t:

 

[Whiskey Tango]

We could end up with a poorly written character who looks like a wild beast, just to cover it up.

Arthur really comes off as an un-tamed, savage force here. I bet he growls too.
If he truly looks like this, he might be an outcast warrior from the underwater kingdom who had to leave their army due to his brutal and violent ways.
But why isn't he all nobel and sophisticated like the other ones?
Because he's half-human, that's why.

No father from the surface world, then!
Here we change just EVERYTHING

You know that in this scenario, Aquaman would be Wonder Woman's uncle, don't you?


Yeah, away with the Atlantis/Lemuria/whatever it's called stuff, and just let him be a descendent of Kryptonians from thousands of years ago. He has water-based powers just because of evolution, as the Kryptonians went hiding in Polynesia and stayed there forever.
There's no place for a mythological underwater kingdom anyway. It's too fantastical and "meaty" for the DCU. Just simplify everything! Always rely on tech, not magic.

What's with the hostility? Ease off ffs

 

[rockandrollsoul]

We could end up with a poorly written character who looks like a wild beast, just to cover it up.

Arthur really comes off as an un-tamed, savage force here. I bet he growls too.
If he truly looks like this, he might be an outcast warrior from the underwater kingdom who had to leave their army due to his brutal and violent ways. He was never a royalty.
But why isn't he all nobel and sophisticated like the other ones?
Because he's half-human, that's why.

You're making baseless assumptions. There's zero reason to assume that, based on his appearance, he will be poorly written and he won't be royalty. In fact Snyder referred to him as the one true king, so there you go.

 

[KillerWolf]

Indeed. You are jumping the gun.

I agree with you to a certain extent, but there's no reason to draw any of these conclusions that you just did. We'll see. Origin, characterization and all that follows them might turn up to be done just fine and in a way that remains respectful to the comic books.

When and if Snyder ****s it up, then complain all you want. But right now, it's pointless as we don't know anything yet.

 

[regwec]

Yes, we can only say whether or not we like the character (re)design.

I don't. I find it crude and lazy.

 

[Pickleweasel]

You guys are arguing with the guy who suggested the dude from 7th heaven for Flash. Don't take his nonsense seriously.

 

[The Endless]

I don't mind the design. But again i think it's a deliberate attempt to pander to all the people who think Aquaman is corny and lame, like they did with Superman in MoS.

Well **** those people, don't pander to them.

 

[Pickleweasel]

Aquaman has looked like that before though in the comics. Was it a deliberate attempt then to pander to all the people who thought Aquaman was corny and lame then? Should he always look like this:

How come Batman, Superman etc can all change over time but Aquaman needs to look how he looks in the superfriends or they are trying too hard to make Aquaman badass?

 

[The Endless]

Yes i want him to look exactly like that.

But seriously i'm not just talking about the physical design. I'm talking about the mood i get from the picture. Same with the Superman picture with him scowling in the rain.

Seems this Justice League are all going to be angry and/or sad. I guess because superheroes are serious business. And serious and dark obviously = more mature.

I hope Wonder Woman and Flash are a bit more fun and are free spirits.

 

[Airwings]

You guys are arguing with the guy who suggested the dude from 7th heaven for Flash. Don't take his nonsense seriously.

You mean I'm not allowed to discuss or have my own opinion?
What's your problem, Pickleweasel? For someone who dislike me that much, you remember everything I've written in the past somewhat too easily.
I'm surprised, really!

Aquaman has looked like that before though in the comics. Was it a deliberate attempt then to pander to all the people who thought Aquaman was corny and lame then? Should he always look like this:

How come Batman, Superman etc can all change over time but Aquaman needs to look how he looks in the superfriends or they are trying too hard to make Aquaman badass?

Now you're the silly one. You KNOW he doesn't look like that anymore.

 

[KillerWolf]

Aquaman has looked like that before though in the comics. Was it a deliberate attempt then to pander to all the people who thought Aquaman was corny and lame then? Should he always look like this:

How come Batman, Superman etc can all change over time but Aquaman needs to look how he looks in the superfriends or they are trying too hard to make Aquaman badass?

In all honesty, it probably was. Though I liked 90's look.

And I believe it's the tattoos, a primitive armor and the Momoa's angry expression we mostly find to be too much. Not the fact that he's reminiscent of 90's Aquaman.

 

[Pickleweasel]

So you would have liked Momoa to be smiling in the picture?

 

[The Endless]

The New 52 and the approach to these films (from what i've seen so far) seem to be a bastard child of the 90s and the Silver Age.