BvS Batmans characterisation in BVS

[WBwins]

Choose and discuss your preferred Batman characterisation.

 

[Fallen Angel]

From your list Year One Batman because remember this Batman will have to work with the Justice League members. As the title says it's Dawn of Justice he's not supposed to be that psycho. The TDKR one in that timeline had already been there and done it.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Affleck interview in today's Sunday Times about Gone Girl, and they touch on Batman quite a bit

But if you look more closely at Affleck's work, it makes more sense. Not because he's been at his best in blockbuster parts, but because, in everything from the indie comedy Dogma to the domestic thriller Changing Lanes, he is exceptionally good at the one thing that defines Batman: rage.

"I think it's a necessity, historically, in the tradition of these films," he says reflecting on the character's combustible temperament. "For me, anger is so deeply buried and contained that when it does kind of come out, it comes out in stronger bursts. I tend to be respectful, polite, get along, put up with, put up with, put up with ... then, when it finally emerges, it's not something I have a ton of control over. I'm not gonna go into a Wolverine berserker rage, but I do have a, I do..." He trails off, thinking - perhaps a little surprised - before murmuring: "That is an interesting thing that you point out. That's my personality."

He quickly clarifies, in case this seems like a boast: "By the way, that's a character flaw, I think. I should sit down and say, 'Listen, I just want to let you know what happened there wasn't OK, instead of going, let it go, let it go, let it go ... "Ah, that's not a big deal', until finally you just pop!"

Audiences will see this in Gone Girl: the anger in the everyman. It's a remarkable, vanity-free performance. And it bodes well for his interpretation of the Dark Knight. As the poet John Dryden once had it: "Beware the fury of a patient man." Or Batman.

Given this recent interview, it'll be angry Batman.

 

[lc23]

"Beware the furry of a patient man." Or Batman.

NO! Anything but that!

 

[Imperviousone]

Beware my Furry!

 

[Imperviousone]

Seriously, I like TDKR Bats characterization, but also like the Hush portrayal.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Fixed. :P

 

[KillerWolf]

I really love Morrisons Batman, not so much because of the heroism, but because Morrison perfectly depicts his obsessiveness, strength of mind, willingness to push himself to the limits and paranoid need to always be a step ahead from any threat, real or imagined, which are a personality traits that I always found most inspiring in Batman and made me love the character in the first place.

Today, there are couple of historical people, like Siddhartha Gautama, Gandhi, Goethe, John Dee and William Blake whose work and life I find to be very inspiring to me, but back then, none character, real or fictional, was able to affect me so positively like Batman did.

That moment from "Batman RIP" where he practices Thogal, a buddhistic practice of higher self-awareness is priceless.
Morrison also made him create a back-up personality in his subconsciousness in case his mind gets attacked. I recall the line from that run that summarized perfectly what for me Batman's all about: "What kind of man can turn even his life memories into a weapon?"

Above everything else, to me it'll always be strength of mind and willingness to always push oneself to being even better that defines Batman the most.

I'd actually like to see a combination of those traits with TDKRs unapologetic jerk of a Batman.

 

[The Batman]

But the best thing about Morrison's Batman is that he is more heroic than most modern versions. Morrison Batman is a perfect escape from Miller Batman and all the Miller ripoffs AKA "unapologetic jerk" Batman.

 

[TeeKay]

I don't really care what take,I just don't want BATGOD. But if I had to choose I'd say Morrison's Batman.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Well, he's going to eventually be on a team with an Amazonian princess, an alien who looks human with god-like powers, and a king who rules 75% of the Earth so I expect him to be a LITTLE BatGod.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Yea I expect him to be as strong as Captain America or the Watchmen (they were very strong) he is among Gods afterall.

 

[DOBSON10]

he is exceptionally good at the one thing that defines Batman: rage.

I'm really not purposely trying to be negative here, but this above is news to me. I've never found Affleck to be able to convincingly display "rage". I've said this before, I have absolutely no worries about Affleck as Bruce Wayne, he can play that role in his sleep, it's the intimidating rage and emotional anger side of Batman that worries me about Affleck's performance. Not that I'm overly worried or anything but it's definitely not something I've seen him do very well in the past, IMO.

As for my preference about his characterization, I'd like to see a Jack Bauer/Jason Bourne level of improvising in difficult situations, always being able to quickly come up with a plot to get out of a sticky situation that most people wouldn't even think of. A real tactical master. Heroic but also stoic, inherently intense and angry, but calm in a disaster and tactically one, if not two steps ahead. He needs to be alittle bit of a jerk but not to the point where it's insulting, just to the point of keeping his guard up an never letting anyone get any kind of advantage on him or see any weakness. Not to simply be a jerk, but almost as a defense mechanism. I want him to always have the wheels turning, constantly thinking ahead and staying on top of the situation as to never be caught unprepared. He should also push the envelop alittle bit but always do it for the right reasons and never cross the line.

 

[manofsteel4life]

Beware my Furry!

Furry what?!!....

 

[KillerWolf]

But the best thing about Morrison's Batman is that he is more heroic than most modern versions. Morrison Batman is a perfect escape from Miller Batman and all the Miller ripoffs AKA "unapologetic jerk" Batman.

I wouldn't call that the best thing of Morrisons Batman, not by far. But I can see where you're coming from with this and agree to an extent about it being a sometimes well-needed escape from Miller-like depictions of that character, though I personally like when Batman is a bit of an a**hole.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Under the red hood (movie) characterisation. Loved how fast and athletic he was and his awesome poetry in motion fighting style

 

[Gu3ree]

Could you please state what TDKR is? The Dark Knight Returns...or The Dark Knight Rises?

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Yea I expect him to be as strong as Captain America or the Watchmen (they were very strong) he is among Gods afterall.

That's one thing I didn't get about Watchmen. Excluding Doctor Manhattan, the heroes are basically described as regular folks who just, one day, opted to put on masks and go all superhero. They didn't undergo any special training to my knowledge. Veidt is a mental prodigy of sorts (much like comic book Bruce Wayne), but everyone else on the team appears to possess normal intelligence.

So, why is their skill level peak human? Veidt can catch bullets. Other characters are kung fu experts, punching holes in walls and what not. I don't know. I never read Watchmen comics, so maybe I'm missing something.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

For this movie, TDKR definitely.

I think they could have him go back to a more traditional/'in-his-prime' Batman later though, perhaps by the end of the film or in JL, once he's out of his rut.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Could you please state what TDKR is? The Dark Knight Returns...or The Dark Knight Rises?

It's 'The Dark Knight Returns'.

 

[WBwins]

TDKR for me.It fits with a Batman thats an antagonist to Superman

 

[AnneFan]

A Batman set in his ways who is capable of spectacular, heroic deeds.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Honestly, a mix of Morrison's Batman and Miller's isn't bad for this film. We've already seen Bruce in Hero mode even.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

For me: Brubaker, Dini, Alan Grant, Greg Rucka, Doug Moench, Morrison, and a touch of (pre-hack) Miller

 

[KillerWolf]

Honestly, a mix of Morrison's Batman and Miller's isn't bad for this film. We've already seen Bruce in Hero mode even.

This. Not just that it wouldn't be bad, it would be perfect.

We already got the heroic Batman with Nolans Batman, and to be honest, because of that I found him to be quite boring. Insted of "no, I came back to stop you." I want Batman that would say "no, I came back to break your legs." t: