Battle of the Action Movie Heroes!!!!

Chuck, he did more actual fighting, national Karate champ, and was a bigger man than Bruce.
 
Bruce Lee at the time of Enter the Dragon
 
primemover said:
Chuck, he did more actual fighting, national Karate champ, and was a bigger man than Bruce.

That's cause Bruce died at a young age. Norris was Bruce Lee's student. Norris even said that Bruce was the strongest person he met and definity the fastest.
 
CrypticOne said:
That's cause Bruce died at a young age. Norris was Bruce Lee's student. Norris even said that Bruce was the strongest person he met and definity the fastest.

Ok, the myths live on, go ahead and choose a 130 pound martial arts actor over a 170+ pound national karate champion.
 
primemover said:
Ok, the myths live on, go ahead and choose a 130 pound martial arts actor over a 170+ pound national karate champion.

you can't be serious... you obviously know little or nothing about martial arts. People like you thought Brazilian Jiu jitsu was a joke until the gracies came and kicked the hell out of every martial arts style during the 90's. weight is not a factor between these two, and if you studied Bruce lee's history properly you would know that when the guys in the movies flew over ten feet it wasn't wires or acting he really had the much power in his kicks.
 
CrypticOne said:
you can't be serious... you obviously know little or nothing about martial arts. People like you thought Brazilian Jiu jitsu was a joke until the gracies came and kicked the hell out of every martial arts style during the 90's. weight is not a factor between these two, and if you studied Bruce lee's history properly you would know that when the guys in the movies flew over ten feet it wasn't wires or acting he really had the much power in his kicks.

And all of this has nothing to do with a real fight, hitting a stunt man standing and awaiting your blow is hardly the same as engaging in a fight with a willing and worthy opponent.

And please don't compare the Gracies with Lee, because there is one major difference, the Gracies proved themselves and their art time and time again, to all comers, whereas all we have for Lee great action scenes in movies.

And weight DOES matter, especially a 40+ pound difference, or there would not be weight divisions in Wrestline, Boxing or Mixed Martial Arts, because without it only the larger men prevail, especially now that all the combatants are as trained as the other.

Norris has verified combat experience, Lee has mainly only hearsay and legend, a legend that guys like you love to propogate for some reason. I have no doubt he was a great martial artist, but be real.
 
primemover said:
And all of this has nothing to do with a real fight, hitting a stunt man standing and awaiting your blow is hardly the same as engaging in a fight with a willing and worthy opponent.

And please don't compare the Gracies with Lee, because there is one major difference, the Gracies proved themselves and their art time and time again, to all comers, whereas all we have for Lee great action scenes in movies.

And weight DOES matter, especially a 40+ pound difference, or there would not be weight divisions in Wrestline, Boxing or Mixed Martial Arts, because without it only the larger men prevail, especially now that all the combatants are as trained as the other.

Norris has verified combat experience, Lee has mainly only hearsay and legend, a legend that guys like you love to propogate for some reason. I have no doubt he was a great martial artist, but be real.


ok smart guy then explain to me how the 199 pound-Wanderlei Silva defeated the 240 pound- Kazuyuki Fujita...being punched out in 9:21.

Bruce lee has plenty of footage at seminars and even a training video compilation narated by himself. and i don't give a s*** who you are bruce is by far faster and stronger than chuck norris. Bruce lee created his own martial art(jeet kun do) that was accepted into official blackbelt hall of fame in america. and if all you know is bruce lee's movie background then i understand why you say these things but reasearch even further and you will find that Bruce lee is trained in more martial arts then chuck norris, if you've seen interviews from dan inosanto or brandon lee you would understand exactly how quick and powerful he was... Bruce had to even be shot in slow motion doing a lot of his attacks in movies because he was too damn fast and the camera angles made it look like a special affect.

so to say that a still target is the only way bruce had power is just stupid because chuck norris is not quick enough to dodge one of those attacks. But of course you have another arguement so spit it out so i can prove you wrong again.
 
OK i think we can end this fight now. Wow Bruce is always at the center of heated discussions as to his prowess but I did not think that would happen here on the Hype. You both make very valid points for sure.

Bruce wins 7-1

Next matchup shortly
 
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Riddick

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The Man Without Fear

This take splace in a PITCH BLACK warehouse full of boxes, crates and rafters.

Courtesy of Hellstormer!
 
Dare Devil's other senses are heightened due to his blindness, right? So, he could hear and feel (drafts) Riddick coming. Or is Riddick's eye shine so advanced he can see in the dark as if it were day?
 
primemover said:
And weight DOES matter, especially a 40+ pound difference, or there would not be weight divisions in Wrestline, Boxing or Mixed Martial Arts, because without it only the larger men prevail, especially now that all the combatants are as trained as the other.

Then please explain how a 196 pound Kurt Angle defeated a 275 pound man in the NCAA's wrestling championship for the heavyweight division:o .
 
i like both really, but Riddick as DD was good but not as good as it could have been.
 
The Sage said:
Then please explain how a 196 pound Kurt Angle defeated a 275 pound man in the NCAA's wrestling championship for the heavyweight division:o .

Yes, this one case proves that all fights are equal between fighters of different weights, where thousands of other fights mean nothing.
 
CrypticOne said:
ok smart guy then explain to me how the 199 pound-Wanderlei Silva defeated the 240 pound- Kazuyuki Fujita...being punched out in 9:21.

Bruce lee has plenty of footage at seminars and even a training video compilation narated by himself. and i don't give a s*** who you are bruce is by far faster and stronger than chuck norris. Bruce lee created his own martial art(jeet kun do) that was accepted into official blackbelt hall of fame in america. and if all you know is bruce lee's movie background then i understand why you say these things but reasearch even further and you will find that Bruce lee is trained in more martial arts then chuck norris, if you've seen interviews from dan inosanto or brandon lee you would understand exactly how quick and powerful he was... Bruce had to even be shot in slow motion doing a lot of his attacks in movies because he was too damn fast and the camera angles made it look like a special affect.

so to say that a still target is the only way bruce had power is just stupid because chuck norris is not quick enough to dodge one of those attacks. But of course you have another arguement so spit it out so i can prove you wrong again.

First of all stop being a #@$@, second of all Silva does not fight at 199 lbs, most light heavyweights cut 10 to 15 lbs for these tournaments, Tito Ortiz is said to weigh 220+ at fight time, thirdly that one case does not prove what I said wrong is wrong, it's a single case of a sea of other cases that prove that weight does matter. A major thing you forget is the difference from 130 lbs to 170 lbs is FAR greater than the difference between 200 lbs to 240 lbs both in percentage (30% larger to 20% larger), but after fighters reach past 200 lbs, they almost officially can fight anybody larger with greater ease, as usually the weight difference in the lower classes means height and reach whereas weight difference in the upper classes means width.

Beyond that everything else you say means nothing, it's all footage of him training and punching bags and anecdotal evidence of him being superhumanly fast and slow motion cameras and flying stuntman which has no bearing on what he would do in a fight. Basically we don't know because we never saw him fight in any actual tournament facing actual trained and willing fighters, but Chuck Norris sure has.

You have proved nothing except you are a fan of Bruce Lee and love to bathe yourself in myth and hearsay.
 
Hey guys guys guys let it go. You are both good dudes and this is not worth fighting over!! Let's keep the piece ok???
 
Lurk said:
Dare Devil's other senses are heightened due to his blindness, right? So, he could hear and feel (drafts) Riddick coming. Or is Riddick's eye shine so advanced he can see in the dark as if it were day?

Daredevil has heightened sense of smell, touch, hearing and taste PLUS he has a radar that basically gives him a 3 dimesnional map of his surrounding area. FAR greater detail than eyesite. Riddick has enhanced site but it does not make night like day. Sure he can see in the dark but it is still limited.
 
Good match, but can somebody fill me on in some of Riddick's feat beyond his ability to see in the dark and his ability to mend dislocated bones? :D
 

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