Battle of the Action Movie Heroes!!!!

primemover said:
Good match, but can somebody fill me on in some of Riddick's feat beyond his ability to see in the dark and his ability to mend dislocated bones? :D

He seems to have strength greater than normal. He also is able to make friends with wild man eating beasts and put out crappy movies on a regular basis. lol
 
LongDong said:
He seems to have strength greater than normal. He also is able to make friends with wild man eating beasts and put out crappy movies on a regular basis. lol

I heard it only from a friend, but is it true that he dropped the XxX sequel to make the Pacifier instead? :(
 
Nathan said:
I heard it only from a friend, but is it true that he dropped the XxX sequel to to make the Pacifier instead? :(

I think he did not like the lackluster B.O. the first XxX got, not a big enough hit so he backed out. I dont know. I thought the Pacifier was lame but it is a good kids flick. If I had kids I would get it for them.
 
Rid***** more savage so I think he would kill DD no matter what.
EDIT: Wow you can't say Riddick, how about Rid!ck
 
primemover said:
First of all stop being a #@$@, second of all Silva does not fight at 199 lbs, most light heavyweights cut 10 to 15 lbs for these tournaments, Tito Ortiz is said to weigh 220+ at fight time, thirdly that one case does not prove what I said wrong is wrong, it's a single case of a sea of other cases that prove that weight does matter. A major thing you forget is the difference from 130 lbs to 170 lbs is FAR greater than the difference between 200 lbs to 240 lbs both in percentage (30% larger to 20% larger), but after fighters reach past 200 lbs, they almost officially can fight anybody larger with greater ease, as usually the weight difference in the lower classes means height and reach whereas weight difference in the upper classes means width.

Beyond that everything else you say means nothing, it's all footage of him training and punching bags and anecdotal evidence of him being superhumanly fast and slow motion cameras and flying stuntman which has no bearing on what he would do in a fight. Basically we don't know because we never saw him fight in any actual tournament facing actual trained and willing fighters, but Chuck Norris sure has.

You have proved nothing except you are a fan of Bruce Lee and love to bathe yourself in myth and hearsay.


So just because Chuck Norris won a competition backin the 60's or 70's he's a great fighter? who did he fight that was soo great? Fact is not all martial artist get involved in competitions, and your saying just because one doesn't, that there's no way they are as skilled as someone who does. That's just ingnorant... and if bruce lee wasn't soo great then why did dan inosanto who was a blackbelt in kenpo leave all other trainers to train with bruce? how could someone who created his own black belt program be benethe a student? all you've proved is that you are a chuck norris fan... and i've seen walker texas ranger and he moves as fast at full speed as bruce moves in slow motion... and those are just stuntmen in his show as well.
 
LongDong said:
Hey guys guys guys let it go. You are both good dudes and this is not worth fighting over!! Let's keep the piece ok???

sorry sorry it was just a really heated debate is all no bad blood... :up: :)
 
CrypticOne said:
So just because Chuck Norris won a competition backin the 60's or 70's he's a great fighter? who did he fight that was soo great? Fact is not all martial artist get involved in competitions, and your saying just because one doesn't, that there's no way they are as skilled as someone who does. That's just ingnorant... and if bruce lee wasn't soo great then why did dan inosanto who was a blackbelt in kenpo leave all other trainers to train with bruce? how could someone who created his own black belt program be benethe a student? all you've proved is that you are a chuck norris fan... and i've seen walker texas ranger and he moves as fast at full speed as bruce moves in slow motion... and those are just stuntmen in his show as well.

No, I am actually a bigger fan of Bruce Lee than Chuck Norris, I just respect Norris and his accomplishments over Bruce Lee's legend, when it comes to a fight.

Tons of black belts in many martial arts went to the Gracies to learn what they had to teach, but that doesn't guarantee that the Gracies will win every fight due to this fact, in fact lately the Gracies are losing in almost every Mixed Martial Arts tournament. Just because you teach an art that people seriously want to learn doesn't mean you will beat them in a fight. Matt Hughes has none of the belts that Royce Gracie has, yet he beat him easily, and this happens in every event.

Also you drone on and on about how fast Bruce was in his movies, but that is only part of the big picture when talking about fighting, Chuck Liddel has some of the slowest punches in Mixed Martial Arts, but he knocks out almost everybody that enters the ring against him, that is because speed is only part of the picture.

Many speed demons in martial arts can only demonstrate that speed in a controlled setting, somebody standing still, or against a bag in a demonstration, sometimes those 'show' skills don't translate into a real fight where angles constantly change and your opponent doesn't go where you want him to.
 
primemover said:
No, I am actually a bigger fan of Bruce Lee than Chuck Norris, I just respect Norris and his accomplishments over Bruce Lee's legend, when it comes to a fight.

Tons of black belts in many martial arts went to the Gracies to learn what they had to teach, but that doesn't guarantee that the Gracies will win every fight due to this fact, in fact lately the Gracies are losing in almost every Mixed Martial Arts tournament. Just because you teach an art that people seriously want to learn doesn't mean you will beat them in a fight. Matt Hughes has none of the belts that Royce Gracie has, yet he beat him easily, and this happens in every event.

Also you drone on and on about how fast Bruce was in his movies, but that is only part of the big picture when talking about fighting, Chuck Liddel has some of the slowest punches in Mixed Martial Arts, but he knocks out almost everybody that enters the ring against him, that is because speed is only part of the picture.

Many speed demons in martial arts can only demonstrate that speed in a controlled setting, somebody standing still, or against a bag in a demonstration, sometimes those 'show' skills don't translate into a real fight where angles constantly change and your opponent doesn't go where you want him to.

"Bruce Lee's description of the fight was that Wong Jack Man challenged him to a duel over his decision to teach non-Chinese students. Bruce Lee accepted the challenge. Many who witnessed the fight believed Lee had won the duel, however Wong disputes this. Lee later took the view that the fight took "too long" because traditional martial arts techniques were too rigid and formalistic to be practical in scenarios of chaotic street fighting. Perhaps as a result of this fight, he decided to develop a system with an emphasis on "practicality, flexibilty, speed, and efficiency". This fight between Bruce lee and Wong Jack Man lasted about 3 minutes. Wong Jack Man moved around Bruce and even ran away from him for the majority of the fight, then Bruce grabbed a hold of him, took him down and forced him to give up due to a strangle hold." -wikipedia

Bruce defeated at least one real martial artist lol. but aside from the martial arts competition chuck won, what in your mind, puts him over the top against bruce lee?

I've been around plenty of martial artists that don't fight in tournaments that have defeated people who have(me and my buddies started a fight club lol).

so excluding the gracies and chuck liddel and getting back to the point, i need proof beyond just "chuck won a tournament".
 
CrypticOne said:
so excluding the gracies and chuck liddel and getting back to the point, i need proof beyond just "chuck won a tournament".

Chuck Norris didn't just win 'a' tournament, he won many, and is six-time undefeated World Professional MiddleWeight Karate Champion.

To me THIS is proof, and saying that because there are stories of Bruce Lee kicking ass and you saw how powerful and fast he was in movies that he'd beat Chuck in a fight. That isn't proof, its more conjecture based on hearsay and legend.
 
Lets have a Bruce Lee WITH Chuck Norris fight against another tag team to help this along ;)
 
GUys guys guys take it to PM's please. Now the thread is being muddled up with the debate. Heh heh. You both have some valid points but let us move on please?

We now have the Riddick and Daredevil match to contend with.
 
I'll give this one to Riddick, due to his enhanced strength and durability and his vision in the dark is probably better than Daredevil since he can actually 'see' in the dark. I think too Riddick is pretty darn clever and he'd figure out the noise thing and confuse Daredevil enough to get to him, and once he does he will break him.
 
DD wins 7-3

need to find a pic and then the next matchup will follow shortly!!!
 
hey guys I am going to throw this out there, whoever gets the 5000th post on here gets a free Bowen mini bust from me. So pimp this page to your friends eh????
 
This next one is a couple of obscure characters, one you will know nad one probably not. Do a bit of research, see who you think would win.


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http://www.geocities.com/pleasence/jaguar/jaguar-1.html
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079362/maindetails

the Jaguar


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Remo Williams

This match comes compliments of 3dman
 
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/r/remo.htm
Remo
Powers/Abilities: As a student of Sinanju, Remo can dodge bullets (by spotting subtle signs telling him when the shooter is about to fire, and then predicting the trajectory); he can perform incredible feats of acrobatics. He is capable of killing or incapacitating people with the slightest touch, and can throw objects with marksmans' accuracy and missile like force. He can run on sand without leaving a trace, and even run on semi-liquid surfaces (e.g. wet cement) without sinking in.
 
not as far as I can tell, I think Remo would kick arse
 

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