Battle Royale Being Remade?!?!?!?!?!

[Elijya]

I'd say they underestimate a small but decent percentage of the audience, say 10-15%, but are spot on with the majority. How else do you explain Bad Boys II being a success?

 

[kainedamo]

When I was referring to Americans, I wasn't referring to all Americans of course. Just the ones that make movies.

I think you have a point. Studios underestimate the audience. This is especially noteable whn you watch a movie and the plot is being beat into your head, as if you can't understand the plot unless it's being explained every 5 minutes.

Also, studios want as many people to watch their movies as possible. They want to appeal to all demographics. Thus, when someone comes up with a concept that should clearly be rated R or 18, they tone it down to 15 just so more people would watch it.

This logic that movie studios have, "appeal to as many demographics as possible", it's flawed. Sure, Silent Hill had a good opening, but that soon went down hill. They can get away with certain crappy movies that pull in large audiences, but alot of the time a crap movie will just not get many viewers. If Silent Hill weren't as Hollywoodized, if it were more freaky and bizarre, ambiguous, more "Lynchian", it might not have had a good opening, but the good reviews would have brought in more people overall.

 

[Elijya]

no it wouldn't have. esoteric films always do poorly. They get rave reviews, play at maybe 100 arthouse theatres, max, and take in 7 figures if they're lucky

 

[The Amazing Lee]

As they long as a movie is gonna make money, they'll keep churning out these films, regardless of how they good are in quality.

Hollywood is more interested in how much money it's going to make rather than how well developed a story is. Which is sad.

 

[Elijya]

that's why it's Hollywood. Hollywood is a business, it's not art. If you want art, go to Miramax, Lionsg Gate, or any of the other small arthouse distributors

 

[kainedamo]

no it wouldn't have. esoteric films always do poorly. They get rave reviews, play at maybe 100 arthouse theatres, max, and take in 7 figures if they're lucky

You forget that Silent Hill is a popular franchise. Even if the movie were more esoteric, the studio would have recognised they could pull in a fair audience, I'm sure it would still have gotten a cinema release. I see Silent Hill as a missed opportunity. They got some things right, but overall they wussed out. This movie was fairly close to being not only the first great video game movie but also the first good US horror in a long, long time. In the end, the movie is too straight forward, there are too many characters, and the movie doesn't have the dream like quality of the games, or the bizareness, or the "lonely" quality.

 

[Elijya]

Do you know why broadway theatre is generally considered art? Because almost any show you put on is a financial failure. Only the absolutely gigantic shows like The Producers, Cats, Phantom of the Opera, etc., actually turn a profit. They're the exception, not the rule. The majority of broadway and off broadway shows last only a few weeks, and make back only a faction of their production values. And there's no overseas grosses or DVD sales to make up the difference either. So why dod they do it? why are there 3 dozen stage shows playing in New York City at any given moment? because the shows financers are not paying to get a profit, they're paying for art, to support an artform they enjoy.

 

[Elijya]

take a look at comicbooks - What sells? Superheroes. Superheroes are grown men in brightly colored tights who beat up "bad guys". They're juvenile power fantasies. And hey, I enjoy em, too, but that's what they are. They are not "art" (usually, a few rare cases can be made), they are entertainment. They are done for money. And there are fans who will buy and buy aand buy even if they KNOW what they're buiying is crap, but they don't care because they really really like spider-man and have to own anything with him just because it's spider-man

where are the "art" comics? they're at the bottom of the sales chart. Please, I would love for a Phil Hester book to crack the top 100, or for Kochalka to break the top ten, but it ain't gonna happen. Art doesn't sell, only entertainment does.

 

[kainedamo]

My point about Silent Hill really is that they tried to please everyone, and ended up pleasing no one. I've noticed that for the general audiences (the dumb majority) the movie is too long, even with the huge explanations they are confused by the plot, for some people the gore was too much, and some of them found large parts of the movie quite boring. For fans of the game and film lovers, the movie offers too much explanation, the gore was okay but detracts from what made the game good (suspense over flash), and the movie didn't have half of the suspense, weirdness, and lonelyness that the game offered.

I think that there are certain movies, maybe not very many but a few anyway, movies like Silent Hill, where if the studio gave the movie the time, hard work, dedication and love it deserves, not only would the movie have been good but it would turn a profit.

 

[Elijya]

I enjoyed it, actually. Stretched a bit too much, and there were certainly flaws in the story structure (did you know that Sean Bean's character was only added when they realized the principal cast was made up entirely of females?) but the visuals of the film were gorgeous and more than enough to keep me entertained for the two hours

 

[kainedamo]

It entertained me too, and I'll be buying it on DVD. It just could have been so much more.

 

[Elijya]

eh, but that's true of alot of things. I generally find if you're happy with what you get, rather then upset about what you didn't, life's just more enjoyable.

 

[X-Punisher]

This is probally the one Japanesse movie I like, they shouldn't remake it because it would probally turn out bad like The Ring and The Grudge and all of those crappy ass movies. I hated the Ring. It sucked.

 

[X-Punisher]

just heard about. Terrible idea. The sequel sucked, an american remake will be just as bad.

They'll do something idiotic like cast Tara Ried in Mitsuko's role or something

I didnt see the sequal but I heard the plot line and made less sense than the first one.

 

[ico]

I have been waiting for news of a remake of this movie for about 4 years since I first saw the original. I knew it would be remade eventually, as it's one of the best foreign films I have ever seen.

Overall, I am looking forward to the remake. Afterall, it's a remake of one of my favourite films, so anything related to it I am going to get excited about. But I hope it isn't a dissapointment, which sadly, it more than likely will be. But it won't, as long as they try and stick to some of the things that made the original the monster of a movie it is;

• Keep the children as children - This was one of the biggest points of the film. It has to be children, otherwise 90% of the emotional impact of the entire story is lost.
• This is not a mainstream movie - It would utterly utterly dissapoint me if Hollywood waters down most of the violence, adds him some dumb-ass humor, adds in "well known" faces like Jennifer Love Huge T*ts, Orlando Bloom and Tara Reid. This movie was intended to shock and make people think. Get rid of the violence and the children, then wtf is the point of the whole thing?? It wasn't intended as a movie for people to go to see, switch off for an hour and a half, and then go home.

One of my personal preferences for the remake is that they mostly try and use unknown actors for most of the roles. Or at least, not-as-well-known indie actors, etc. One of my ultimate nightmares would be to see Josh Hartnett or somebody Nanahara and Britney Spears as Noriko.

 

[X-Punisher]

I have been waiting for news of a remake of this movie for about 4 years since I first saw the original. I knew it would be remade eventually, as it's one of the best foreign films I have ever seen.

Overall, I am looking forward to the remake. Afterall, it's a remake of one of my favourite films, so anything related to it I am going to get excited about. But I hope it isn't a dissapointment, which sadly, it more than likely will be. But it won't, as long as they try and stick to some of the things that made the original the monster of a movie it is;

• Keep the children as children - This was one of the biggest points of the film. It has to be children, otherwise 90% of the emotional impact of the entire story is lost.
• This is not a mainstream movie - It would utterly utterly dissapoint me if Hollywood waters down most of the violence, adds him some dumb-ass humor, adds in "well known" faces like Jennifer Love Huge T*ts, Orlando Bloom and Tara Reid. This movie was intended to shock and make people think. Get rid of the violence and the children, then wtf is the point of the whole thing?? It wasn't intended as a movie for people to go to see, switch off for an hour and a half, and then go home.

One of my personal preferences for the remake is that they mostly try and use unknown actors for most of the roles. Or at least, not-as-well-known indie actors, etc. One of my ultimate nightmares would be to see Josh Hartnett or somebody Nanahara and Britney Spears as Noriko.

First off, DO YOU KNOW ALL THE NAMES OF THE CHARACTERS BECAUSE I COULD ONLY REMEMBER LIKE 5
Secondly, how will they rename the characters?

 

[ico]

I can't remember every single character's name, but I can remember a good few. As for renaming the characters, they will probably just come up with brand new names.

 

[Elijya]

yeah, remembering all 42 kids' names would just be crazy. Half of them didn't even have lines

and of course they'll rename the characters, because they're gonna cast a bunch of white kids, and it really doesn't work to be calling a bunch of white kids Shuya, Kawada, Chigusa, or Noriko

 

[kainedamo]

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Why can't American studios just come up with an agreement with Japanese studios and just ****ing release the originals as is in a few cinemas. They show British movies in the US, maybe the occasional frenchy movie, why not Japanese?

 

[ico]

America seems to be the only place that doesn't have it. BR has been on DVD here in the UK for years.