Ben Stein is "Expelled"...

People would have given this movie more credibility if Michael Moore was the one directing and wrote the screenplay.
 
It has nothing to do with whom wrote it or directed it.
 
People would have given this movie more credibility if Michael Moore was the one directing and wrote the screenplay.

If Michael Moore wrote and directed it, I'd be calling BS on him as well.
 
People would have given this movie more credibility if Michael Moore was the one directing and wrote the screenplay.

And if Michael Moore made the same logical fallacies, including post hoc ergo propter hoc, the argumentum ad verbosium, and of course the ever popular Godwin's Law (check your wikipedia), he would be just as criticized.
 
If the Christian groups really wanted to give voices to all sides of the argument over humanity's origins like they said they would, then they should campaign to have evolution taught in schools, as well as the Abrahamic Creation myth.

And the Shinto myth of Izanagi and Izanami.

And the mating of Oranos and Gaia, the birth of the Titans, and the revolt led by Zeus against the elder gods and the establishment of the Gold and Silver races.

And the tale of Ymir, the eldest of the Frost Giants, who was slain by Odin and the world of Midgard built from his corpse.

And the cycles of the days of Brahma, the creator of the universe, and his incarnation of Vishnu, who has sustained the cosmos since the beginning of this universe's incarnation.

And the cycles of the five worlds of the Aztecs.

And the epic of Lord Xenu and his enslavement of humanity.

And the tale of the seven Endless and their role in the formation of the human psyche.

And the arrival of the Great Old Ones upon our plane from distant Yuggoth.

And the tales of the Eternals and their war against the Deviants.

And of course, the We All Came From A Giant Cupcake Made By Sparkles the Unicorn Theory set forth by Suzy Magillicutty, age 6, of Riverdale, Indiana.


So, we truly do need to consider *all* theories about the origin of the universe before accepting any one theory over another.

word.
 
From my point of view thus far, it seems as though one of Stein's main concerns is the all-too-common teaching of evolution as fact, not theory. There are many instructors in this world who would rather insist evolution is a fact, instead of honestly considering the possibility of Earth being created by a higher intelligence. It's my opinion that when you boil everything down to its core, it takes more faith to be an atheist than to believe in God.
 
There are many instructors in this world who would rather insist gravity is a fact, rather than honestly consider the possibility that objects on Earth are being held down by a higher intelligence.
 
Actually, in my introductory astronomy class we were taught the theory of the geocentric universe as well as the theory of the heliocentric one. Of course, we were also taught why no scientists of repute believe in the geocentric universe anymore, but it was still rather helpful knowing the process behind our understanding of astronomy.

So, yes. In some cases a theory, even an obsolete one, deserves to be taught in order to give a full understanding of a subject.
 
And in science courses, the students are taught that theories in science are far more than simply "guesses".
 
At best, scientific theories are generally little more than mathematical explanations for educated guesses. The most brilliant scientists in the world would likely admit that even they can't prove evolution 100%...and because of that, it will always be a theory.
 
By the same reasoning, the existence of an omnipotent Creator God cannot be explained %100 of the time. Therefore, God will always remain a "theory".
 
At best, scientific theories are generally little more than mathematical explanations for educated guesses. The most brilliant scientists in the world would likely admit that even they can't prove evolution 100%...and because of that, it will always be a theory.

No. You forgot to add two words to the end of that sentence to make it a true statement: "to me".

Scientific theory and the normal definition of theory are two different things. But someone probably already said that to you, and you've brushed it off like it meant nothing. :whatever:
 
Wanna know something REALLY scary? My Biology professor is a born again Christian who told all of us in the class to go watch this movie.
 
Wow, people are still talking about this creationist joke?
 
At best, scientific theories are generally little more than mathematical explanations for educated guesses. The most brilliant scientists in the world would likely admit that even they can't prove evolution 100%...and because of that, it will always be a theory.

You know that 'theory' has a completely secondary meaning when it comes to science, right? I know a lot of people have trouble with this, but I've a feeling that we've been over this same track before, numerous times.

From my point of view thus far, it seems as though one of Stein's main concerns is the all-too-common teaching of evolution as fact, not theory. There are many instructors in this world who would rather insist evolution is a fact, instead of honestly considering the possibility of Earth being created by a higher intelligence. It's my opinion that when you boil everything down to its core, it takes more faith to be an atheist than to believe in God.

It doesn't. Argument over. :o
 

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