Bohemian Rhapsody

[jmc]

Does Spice World count?

 

[NotNickFury]

If their lives were really a series of events like in the film, then...maybe.

 

[DarkKnight88]

I’m waiting for the Michael Jackson biopic. Complete with mocap.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Yeah it's not like Singer's departure wasn't already news. They're just rehashing it because the internet wanted Bradley and ASIB to sweep. So they're gonna try and demean the win by saying it made everyone in the room feel awkward.

I think it's commendable that Rami and co spoke up and got rid of Singer for his unprofessional behaviour. That was a bold move.

Yeah I don’t think it’s fair to crucify the film or it’s win for Singer’s alleged sketchy behavior. Especially when no one seemed to bat an eye about Gary Oldman winning best actor last year despite the accusations against him. If Singer himself had been nominated and won the award, then I think it would be fair to criticize it, but that didn’t happen. However, I guess you can argue that he never should have been hired in the first place as there have been accusations out about him for years. So maybe the criticism is warranted? I don’t know.

 

[Schlosser85]

The film got an award, not Bryan Singer. And Singer didn't even direct all of the movie and got kicked off of it, so I fundamentally disagree with the concept of punishing the whole movie and the thousands of people involved because one person is sketchy.

 

[Schlosser85]

And frankly the Twitter so-called SJW cyberbullies can stand to not get what they want sometimes and learn the world isn't obligated to care every time they're "offended".

 

[Spider-Fan]

I don't think this movie is Best Picture worthy or anything, but it was the Globe it won in any case. Not the Oscar. I think come Oscar Night, this won't have much of a chance at winning. This was a fine movie, don't get me wrong. But there were many better movies this year, IMO.

 

[Schlosser85]

I enjoyed it, but it's not Best Picture material. It's very standard-issue band biopic.

 

[Deck Rickard]

The film got an award, not Bryan Singer. And Singer didn't even direct all of the movie and got kicked off of it, so I fundamentally disagree with the concept of punishing the whole movie and the thousands of people involved because one person is sketchy.

Yeah, I agree with that. I also agree that it's not BP material, though I really did like it. I do think Malek's performance is Best Actor material though.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah, I agree with that. I also agree that it's not BP material, though I really did like it. I do think Malek's performance is Best Actor material though.

I think Malek's performance is Best Actor nom worthy. No one should beat Bale this year. Bale's performance in Vice wasn't just great, it was one of the best performances I have seen in years.

 

[Schlosser85]

I don’t have an issue with Malek being nominated, but I’d put Bale’s performance higher.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I still need to see Vice. I'm sure Bale is excellent though. He almost always is. His speech last night was amazing too, lol.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I still need to see Vice. I'm sure Bale is excellent though. He almost always is. His speech last night was amazing too, lol.

I was a big fan of Vice, LOL! But yeah, Bale's performance was special. There is just no comparison to him this year.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Yeah, I really need to check it out.

 

[samsnee]

Classy

 

[AResistor]

Agreed. Only a matter of time until we get a Beatles biopic. And, no, Nowhere Boy doesn't count.

I want an Ozzy Osbourne movie directed by TIM BURTON!

Statement is part joke, but partly serious since that combo would be amazingly awesome and surreal.

If the Elton John movie is similarly successful they’re gonna make a string of these

 

[Schlosser85]

I could see that.

 

[Schlosser85]

How did Ewan McGregor never play Kurt Cobain?

 

[green]

Ughhhh. I can't believe this won. Good for Rami, I think he was outstanding but other than that...
It insults Bisexuals by basically saying they don't exist and that they must be gay because you know someone can't possibly actually be open enough to both sexes.
It insults the gay community by once again vilifying them.
Bah, anyway I could go on but I just think this movie was a huge missed opportunity to actually say something rather than make a straightwashed fluff piece for the masses.

 

[Deck Rickard]

How did the movie vilify the gay community? Because one gay character in it was an A-hole?

Also, I didn't get the impression that the movie was implying that bisexuals don't exist. They were just insinuating that Freddie was actually gay, not bi. I don't claim to be an expert on Mercury himself and I know that some people have claimed that he was bi, but those claims are questionable. Although Mary remained close to him throughout his life, from what I understand, it ceased to be a sexual relationship after he began seeing men.

I also don't understand the claims that the movie was straightwashed. Can you explain?

 

[Schlosser85]

The only person it vilifies is Paul Prenter.

Jim Hutton is portrayed as a positive influence in Freddie’s life, almost a light at the end of a tunnel.

 

[green]

Well he claimed himself to be bisexual for starters. Whether that is factual or just possibly gay shame on his part we will never really know. That doesn't change the fact that movie blatantly ignores any notion of this and just says nope, gay.

You know what really struck me? Him walking into a gay bar as Another One Bites The Dust Plays.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Well he claimed himself to be bisexual for starters. Whether that is factual or just possibly gay shame on his part we will never really know. That doesn't change the fact that movie blatantly ignores any notion of this and just says nope, gay.

You know what really struck me? Him walking into a gay bar as Another One Bites The Dust Plays.

I looked this up and it seems that he did claim to be bi (couldn't find a direct quote though), but this article notes that being openly gay in such a blatantly homophobic time would have been incredibly difficult. A quote from Brian May here also indicates that he gradually switched from women to men over the course of Queen's history. Granted, bi erasure is a real thing that both gay and straight people have been known to do and it's possible that the film is guilty of this. However, given how private of a person Freddie was and how dedicated the rest of the band has been to preserving a lot of that privacy, it's a little difficult to say whether the film is truly at fault for this.

https://www.biography.com/news/freddy-mercury-sexuality
https://www.biography.com/news/freddy-mercury-sexuality
Also, the Another One Bites the Dust thing did feel a little bit crude given the AIDS crisis, however, the song was influenced by the disco craze going on at the time, which suits the gay clubs Freddie was frequenting so stylistically I understood why they used it there.

 

[green]

This movie should have been a celebration of Freddie's queerness, which made him the icon he is today. Bi or gay isn't the real issue here but his choice to live his life the way he chose.
I felt the movie instead wanted to focus on his choices as being his downfall. In doing so I found it to be a failure.

 

[Schlosser85]

His tracking down and getting together with Jim Hutton in the end is depicted as part of getting his life back on track, so I think it's a stretch to say it vilifies gays.