Bought/Thought Thread for August 20th

Fraction said in an interview that it was going to be carried over and explained by the time all was said and done. He didn't say if it was permanent or not, but he said it would be explained and play into the other book.

We'll see I guess.
 
Is that still Warren over in X-Force? Or is that Icarus or somebody like that? As far as I'm concerned, X-Force doesn't exist, not until Domino and Shatterstar show up.
 
Is that still Warren over in X-Force? Or is that Icarus or somebody like that? As far as I'm concerned, X-Force doesn't exist, not until Domino and Shatterstar show up.


Dominoes joining the team in the next few months actually.

Icarus is dead. It is Warren, I'm just waiting to see if this change is permanent. I hope not...I was never a fan of the brooding emo archangel.

I am not really a fan of X-Force, mostly since I don't like the team of assassin's story. I understand why Cyclops formed them, I just don't like it. (But can you blame him after what the purifiers did?)
 
Not at all. My only problem is with titles that are advertised the way X-Force and Hulk are. "THE HULK SMASHES THINGS UP!" or "PREPARE FOR A RIDE THROUGH CLAW CITY!!!" or some garbage like that.
I call things like that "Entertainment in a Can". Sort of like that movie "Hitman"
 
Immortal Iron Fist: The Origin of Danny Rand
"You are Iron Fist."

I have to confess, this issue kinda bored me. I was alright with chapter 1, but chapter 2 just felt like a chore. Boy, do I miss the days when a superhero's origin could be retold in a single normal-sized issue, rather than a double-barreled deal. I think it wasn't helped by the fact that Fraction was incredibly non-linear with the story. At first I thought it was all a flashback Danny was having while in bed with Misty, but each of those flashbacks contained an even earlier flashback. For example...

You do realize this was just a reprint of old issues, right? Fraction didn't write anything except the interludes drawn by Kano.
 
This is a tough week for me to make a pick from. Thing is, Secret Invasion sold out last week, so I didn't get my copy until yesterday, and there are two VERY strong competitors for my pick. Hell, I just think we'll call it a draw.

Amazing Spider-Man- PICK OF THE WEEK! One page in and my eyes rolled back in my skull. Spider-Man has one of the best origins in comics, but I really don't find the need to see it every other day. Luckily... that's my only complaint. JR makes his triumphant return, and so does my favorite villain of all time, Mr. Norman Osborn. Now, it's been nice getting Norman away from Spider-Man for a little while, but this arc feels like it's going to be the culmination of the last year for the character. Thunderbolts is one of Marvel's best books right now, and it's awesome that we finally get to see the fight we've all been waiting for (the brief scene in Avengers/Invaders hardly counts). The final two page spread and the back up tale by Waid/Granov are icing on the cake. Bravo. 9/10

Captain America- PICK OF THE WEEK! Now THAT is how you end a comic. Ed Brubaker's Captain America is similar to Bendis and Maleev's Daredevil. The bar has been broken and reset. I hope Bru stays on this book for a long, long time, because I'm enjoying every minute of this. There's so much happening with so many characters and it just feels intense. I applaud Marvel and Brubaker for having the guts to kill and replace Captain America. Not since Wally West and Kyle Rayner has a change felt so right. I just hope they don't repeat DC's mistake and bring Steve back. I don't think he's needed anymore. Captain America is dead... long live Captain America. 9/10

Secret Invasion- Bendis, you really had a lot of us. Most of us knew, but most of us also hoped that our instincts were wrong. You really know how to throw your characters through the wringer, don't you? Poor Clint... anyway, another awesome page to finish out on. By the way, I loved, loved, LOVED seeing Brand and Hill get moments to shine. These two characters have really been great since their debut. For a split second
I really thought Hill died,
my eyes glanced the facing page as it turned, and I really thought our sassy friend was lost. Glad how that turned out, and a nice nod of the head to recent events in the Avengers books. 9/10

Transformers: All Hail Megatron and Spotlight Doubledealer- We're finally starting to see where the events connect between Furman's opus and McCarthy's tale. Pretty cool. All Hail is pretty grim and dark. I'm digging it so far, but I'm wondering how long the premise can sustain itself. Hopefully we'll see the bots come and kick some Deceptichops soon. Only problem with Doubledealer was that the art was kinda mediocre. When Guidi, Su or Figueroa adds a new character, I can immediately identify who it is, for the most part. Here, we just got some generic looking bots mowed down, one of which I think was supposed to be another Rotor Force member, Manta Ray. Anyway, I loved seeing Hot Rod discover the truth about what happened in his Spotlight. Nice character moment. 8/10

X-Factor: Layla Miller- It's nice to finally see her again. PAD has really made me fall in love with her character, and she can't return to the main book soon enough. I liked this a lot more than the Quicksilver one-shot. While that felt a bit preachy and a little forced, this felt better. I'm just wondering how she's gonna make it back. 8/10

X-Factor- Not a bad conclusion, but nothing too spectacular, either. I like the way Darwin has joined the cast, and it makes sense that the Skrulls would come for him, but... the arc really didn't come off as wholly necessary, and Stroman's art doesn't help that much. I'm debating reading She-Hulk's further SI tie-in issues. I'm actually interested to see where the Super-Skrull conection comes in. I guess I'll see when it gets closer. 5/10

Also bought: Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane hardcover. Can't wait to dig into this. I've read a few of these issues on campus (my school, oddly enough, carries this series, yet no other comics outside trades), but I missed most of them.
 
Dominoes joining the team in the next few months actually.

Icarus is dead. It is Warren, I'm just waiting to see if this change is permanent. I hope not...I was never a fan of the brooding emo archangel.

I am not really a fan of X-Force, mostly since I don't like the team of assassin's story. I understand why Cyclops formed them, I just don't like it. (But can you blame him after what the purifiers did?)

I think Warren is going to be able to shift between forms at will. I would love to see that, actually, and it would be cool to see Warren with a "secret identity" in his role as a member of the black ops squad.
 
I got my comics last night, but didn't post reviews because...I just plain didn't feel like it. Yeah, sometimes I have those moods. Glad everyone else has posted some great thoughts about their picks! I'd better catch up and contribute.

As always, full spoilers aplenty.

Dread's Bought/Thought for 8/20/08:

CAPTAIN AMERICA #41:
Promising the "payoff" to some 3 years of storyline, the Red Skull angle is seemingly winding down as James "Bucky" Barnes continues to embrace his role in the legacy of Captain America. What I like about the covers is while they may sometimes seem repetitive, they aren't nearly as stale and boring as a lot of other comic book covers (THOR or the first few years of ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN being the poster children for boring covers).

Bucky and Falcon trail the weakest link in the Kronas chain, the newly revived Grand Director. Mad a hatter, he leads them right for the bad guys' latest base. The only caveat is that Bucky and Falcon have seemingly raided a dozen of these things now and the bad guys always find a way to escape, so convincing me that "this time, it is definitive" is not an easy task. Like convincing the viewer that, "This time, Dr. Kimble WILL stop the One-Armed Man" after a season or two of near-misses. Plus, while Brubaker may be tying off some plot points, he isn't one to discard every bolt of the engine. I am sure there will be plenty of cogs to play with here, which is as it should be. Still, I like the dynamic between Bucky and Falcon, the "old partner" and "newer partner" for Steve Rogers. While Bucky may be numerically older, Falcon in some ways has more experience (although not in all ways, and to a major degree), so it creates an interesting dynamic.

It is revealed that Dr. Doom's time platform is being used by Zola to seperate Lukin and Red Skull, as their union appears to be doing psychological and maybe biological harm. With Faustus' "Skull Cap" going off the rails and needing AIM to reclaim him, Faustus decides to flee before he gets executed and sets up the base's downfall via Sharon and SHIELD. While Sharon has survived, her fetus apparently wasn't so lucky. Which one could say is about the most violent way to prevent a hero being saddled with an unwanted baby in quite some time (the mother is impaled on a sai). As for why Red Skull was focused on her, it could be because of her position? SHIELD agent, close to both Steve and Bucky, and so on?

However, while Black Widow and Falcon lead SHIELD against the base and after Skull, Bucky isn't there. He is preventing a presidential debate from turning into a bloodbath by Sin on live TV. While a scene like that, especially with the ending splash page, is essential to start cementing James as a legitimate replacement for Steve, part of me would be very irritated if Captain America, ANY Captain America, didn't take down Red Skull personally at the end. That's like those episodes of SPIDER-MAN AND HIS AMAZING FRIENDS where Spider-Man didn't get in the final shot. You know you always hated that (as did most kids, which was why it rarely happened). After everything that has happened between Bucky, Lukin, and Skull, a showdown seems to be the best way to do it. Brubaker likes altering expectations, but he also knows how to frame explosive and iconic moments, so I do have faith that it all will be satisfying at the end. Especially as I doubt Skull, Lukin, Sin, Zola, AND Faustus are ALL going down in the next issue or two. I mean, Faustus just shaved his beard to go underground. Sin is defying her father more. And so on. For all we know, maybe Brubaker wants to expand on the legacy thing and move Crossbones from minion to master sometime soon. There's really no one else who could carry on for Skull.

As always, CA is a solid superhero espionage adventure. There is enough action and build-up every issue that even issues that set things up are rarely wasted. Buck, Falcon, and Widow make a good team and it is great reading their adventures every month. Issue #50 is only 9 months away but I hope Brubaker stays on much longer than that. This is a defining run and anyone who is handed the reigns will not have an easy task of running off riding.

GHOST RIDER #26: Aaron continues to truck onward and blaze some ground taking over from Way's launch, and I still contend the franchise would have been better had Aaron been tapped about two years sooner and launched this book. This issue all but confirms it, with him diving headfirst into GR continuity from the 90's (yes, during the Mackie years) which can be almost as much of a bear as Hawkman's, especially with the new angel revelation. Huat also appears to be the regular artist for a bit, which takes some getting used to. He has a style that reminds me of some former SAM AND TWITCH artists from the 90's who were still in the "inspired by Todd MacFarlane" mode. Some of his angles for panels need work as sometimes he uses a bit of an overhead angle that doesn't quite work.

This issue focuses on Dan Ketch leading a gathering of GR's rogues on an attack on a shack and an old man, who turns out to be the Caretaker, former protector of the "Medallion of Power" people. These consist of Blackout, Doghead, Death-Ninja, and The Ord. Aaron even seems to recall that the original Orb was killed in AVENGERS SPOTLIGHT #21, but apparently had a successor who showed up in DEADLINE #2 in the Bar-With-No-Name. Aside for Orb, all of them had major associations with Ketch. Danny at first doesn't want to kill Caretaker for Zadkiel, but when he confronts him about seemingly "lying" to them by with-holding information, things go to a head. Death-Ninja and Doghead are seemingly murdered, but believe it or not, Orb's "eyeball" is supposed to be a helmet (unless this "new" one literally has an eyeball for a head) so he may have survived off-panel (D-List or not, Ghost Rider only has so many rogues). In a way it did seem awkward for Danny and Blackout to be teaming up, considering all of the bad blood and combat between them, but I suppose Aaron did it for the same reason some writers had Wolverine and Sabretooth team up; tension. It works for the most part, although Huat struggles with Blackout's design and makes him almost look like a tween girl zombie with the braided hair locks.

Meanwhile, both Blaze and a mysterious nun appear to converge on one spot.

Obviously, the "return of Dan Ketch" angle has added a bit of juice to the storyline, especially as he and Blaze are enemies. Enought that a spin-off is coming just for Ketch. It makes sense since for many in the 90's, he WAS Ghost Rider. Sure, sure, you could say that both WINTER SOLDIER and the Red Hood stories from Marvel & DC made bringing back "sidekicks" in vogue again. It also could be a way of explaining the continuity (Dan Ketch may be bound to the demon Zarathos, and Blaze being empowered by dark angelic power). Aaron at least shows a willingness to try without remaking the wheel (or trying to), and that is the kind of writer every comic should have.

Hopefully he dusts off some more of Ghost Rider's old rogues. The beauty of old cast-off's is you can revive them and sometimes even remake them easier than more "used" characters with defined milage. Huat's art isn't terrible but he is among the worst artists on this volume so far. Still, he can tell the story well enough and is decent with action sequences, so it gets things done.

GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY #4: This issue was sold out of my LCS and I had to go to a second a few miles away to find this, and this was THAT shop's LAST copy. GOTG appears to have some amount of buzz for a "small" book. It is outselling NOVA after all. The fact that it is an almost obligatory SECRET INVASION tie-in also likely has something to do with it.

Abnett & Lanning, like most good writers try to do, use the tie-in elements to add to their own storyline. With new recruit Major Victory trashing Knowhere with a battle with a revived Starhawk, many on the station and even on the team don't appear to trust him; nor does Rocket Raccon appear to like Cosmo (and vice versa). When an explosion on the station knocks out teleport machines and reveals three Skrull corpses, everyone is on edge and wondering if everyone is who they say they are. Especially since so many of them have undergone "changes". Gorani and Synosure, two members of the counsel that organizes things at Knowhere, also have issues with the new "vigilante team".

Frankly, the SECRET INVASION tie-in is not a welcome one on this title for me. Some may argue, "it makes sense for Skrulls to do stuff in space". Under normal circumstances, true. But SECRET INVASION is about the Skrulls going at Earth en masse' for both their new cult and revenge for past failures. They have little purpose to be bothering a Celestial head that is LITERALLY at the edge of the universe. That is like if the United States wanted to aid their war effort in Iraq and Afghanistan by...attacking New Zealand. It makes absolutely zero tactical sense on any level. The Guardians are not involved in Earth affairs and haven't in a good, long while. Even if they were, it is debatable if they would help when they are off to defend the entire universe, much less one planet on it. The other major reason it that it invites the risk of one character on the team being offered up as a Skrull agent to provide a "shock" and whatnot, and that would be annoying because I like all of the cast members here and don't want to abandon anyone.

Plus, part of what makes GOTG fun is that it was free of a lot of the self-hating angst and infighting of a lot of superhero books and focused on high adventure and some amusing (and bickering) one-liner interaction. Now we have, sigh, yet ANOTHER team at each other's throats before issue #6. It seems no team, in Heaven, Earth, or space, can organize without everyone wanting to murder each other. It is a wonder Civil War ended at all, considering the almost psychotic mistrust each and every Marvel superhero appears to have for each other. Not even Batman was that paranoid (he at least could team with the JLA and not assume they were all immediately plotting evil behind his cape). While I know Abnett & Lanning are hardly the inventors of this kind of team dynamic (some would argue it has always lingered, and simply was brought into the forefront by Bendis, and then imitated by everyone else since), I liked GOTG as one bastion against that, and now it appears to be gone. Especially since tie-in sales NEVER linger long and this book already has developed a steady audience.

That isn't to say I disliked the issue. Far from it. As always, Pelletier's artwork is masterful. DnA get in some good interaction with their characters and use the story to play on the character's insecurities. They also reveal the tidbit that Peter Quill had Mantis "teep" into the minds of some if not all of them to get them to "gell" as a team faster. While part of me understands that, again, we simply are back to the tired cliche of, "team formed under evil circumstances" that has been beaten into the ground a billion times with Professor Xavier these days. True, "slightly altering people's emotions to get them to work together to save the universe" isn't all that nefarious, which is why I am iffy about it. I simply am tired, so ****ing tired, of reading team books where we can't even get a year without going through the "team discovers a mole, overreacts, pummels each other" type of story. Some Marvel fans would say, "hey, Stan Lee wrote that kind of stuff in the 60's," but that is my point, it is CLICHE, it is STOCK, move the **** on already! It is even MORE predictable than the "heroes save the day" ending because it reeks of artificial drama and angst half the time. It was old when Homer was writing epic poems. I really like GOTG and saw it as a return to another era of comic book writing, a better, less pretentious era, and the fact that SI is essentially forcing the book into the same basic storyarc that Bendis appears to write in every single issue of New Avengers (everyone hates each other) disturbs me. It is like seeing a steady A+ student suddenly turn in a B+. It still is far above the norm, but a cause for concern.

Granted, there is an easy way out of this. None of the team turns out to be Skrulls. The only Skrull(s) turn out to be the two "counsel" people who started sowing the seeds of mistrust, or at least helped it along. The team comes together despite (or due to) Quill & Mantis' tampering and the Skrulls are toast. And that will and would be fine. I just am not ready to bid farewell to, say, Drax or Cosmo or whoever because of a silly tie-in that, in NO way, will improve sales beyond the 1-2 issues it is in. GOTG is a cult book and it's trying to be mainstream, and that always brings some issues with it.

I liked the mystery surrounding Victory and Starhawk, and as always the characters have very distinct ways of speaking to each other and play off each other very well (the animal rivalry between Rocket and Cosmo actually makes sense, and seeing the still-regenerating Gamora is almost painful). Even with my concerns, this is an excellent team book. It just is a team book that, frankly, has chosen to wander near a team storyline that I usually dislike or have seen botched simply to suckle at Bendis' sales teat for a few months. Here's hoping that DnA can buck the trend and make a good story out of, frankly, the most overused and overdone team storyline in the history of fiction. While they are usually masters at their craft, ANNIHILATION CONQUEST did have some hiccups. Still, no SI tie-in that I have read has been bad or even worse than the SI mini itself, so I do have some faith. I just fear a character being wasted is all.

IMMORTAL IRON FIST: THE ORIGIN OF DANNY RAND #1: Basically a reprint of MARVEL PREMIERE #15 and #16 with new digital era coloring that detail Danny's origin story from the 70's, with classic art & writing by Len Wein, Gil Kane, Roy Thomas and Larry Hama. The only new material is a 2 page "framing" sequence by Fraction & Kano, which naturally seems a bit tacked on as you would imagine after some 20+ years of being a couple, Misty would know Danny's complete origin. But it still is a workable way to present the material. It also offers a more complete and updated Marvel Handbook bio for Iron Fist, who hasn't gotten one in 3 years and had a SLEW of updates since. The 70's stories read a bit dated (especially in MS #16 when the bad guy keeps calling Danny "Joker"), but in a way it helps to cement how Iron Fist can appeal to both the mystical martial arts genre and the superhero genre and why he has endured all these years. Plus, if you haven't read the material or don't have the ESSENTIALS volume, it isn't bad. The 2008 era coloring for 70's stories is a bit of a novelty, and it doesn't hamper them at all. I don't regret the purchase and look forward to the new Handbook Bio. I'm a dork like that.

X-MEN: FIRST CLASS #15: Now, THIS is how a lot of team books should be. The characters aren't at each other's throats every few pages, no one hates anyone, there are deep familiar ties and a lot of amusing banter. And there isn't a drop of pretentiousness in these tales. The book exists to offer straightforward adventure stories with fun puns and nothing more, and it isn't ashamed of itself for being so. I'm hardly saying XM:FC is the model of team books, as it is also quite fluffy, but I would prefer to see more teams as how Jeff Parker writes these guys, and less, well, Bendisization (where under the slightest misunderstanding, the teammates reveal deep seeded hatreds and seek to murder).

Still without Angel on the roster and having lost Machine Man, the X-Men run across an odd UFO. It turns out to house Madame Medusa, on the run from the authorities and her old team, the Frightful Four. At first apprehensive of the stoic heroine with follicles of steel, the X-Men come to welcome her. Her aid is needed when the Wizard returns to reclaim both her and his ship. The banter is light and fun, the artwork by Kesel is energetic and great for the action, and in the end everything is sorted out. The fact that stories like this are almost a sideshow attraction rather than the norm either means that comics have matured, or simply entered an adolescent phase, depending on your view.

Even the return of Angel is handled without life-or-death angst. He didn't return because someone died. Or because Xavier was brainwashing him since infancy. Or because Magneto is his brother. Or because he is returning from a post-apocalyptic future reality as a cyborg. Or he is now the Angel of Death with "Call me cool, Please!" metal wings. Or because he is a Skrull. Nope. The jungle woman he had the hots for was part of a tribal marriage ceremony, and Angel isn't ready to commit to marriage as a teenager (more than reasonable). So he comes back. He stays at a hotel out of embarrassment and Xavier just helps it be more dramatic. There, that wasn't so hard. Coover's art for that sequence is naturally as quirky as always.

As for the next issue, I am simply surprised this book actually made it 2 whole years before having Spider-Man show up. Even Thor guest starred before him. That's withstraint.
 
Batman/Superman had one of the best few panels in comics, ever. Little bats is like "KNEECAP" and punches bruce in his kneecap. How awesome is that?
 
You do realize this was just a reprint of old issues, right? Fraction didn't write anything except the interludes drawn by Kano.
That certainly explains why the story didn't flow well when the artwork changed. That also explains why everyone spoke so damn properly. I'm assuming the pencils are old as well, and the colors are new?
 
While Sharon has survived, her fetus apparently wasn't so lucky. Which one could say is about the most violent way to prevent a hero being saddled with an unwanted baby in quite some time (the mother is impaled on a sai).
Faustus told her she was never really pregnant right before he left and Sharon regained control of her mind. Was he serious or just trying to prevent Sharon from feeling guilty?
 
Trying to prevent Sharon from feeling guilty using his powers.
 
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY #4: This issue was sold out of my LCS and I had to go to a second a few miles away to find this, and this was THAT shop's LAST copy. GOTG appears to have some amount of buzz for a "small" book. It is outselling NOVA after all. The fact that it is an almost obligatory SECRET INVASION tie-in also likely has something to do with it.

Abnett & Lanning, like most good writers try to do, use the tie-in elements to add to their own storyline. With new recruit Major Victory trashing Knowhere with a battle with a revived Starhawk, many on the station and even on the team don't appear to trust him; nor does Rocket Raccon appear to like Cosmo (and vice versa). When an explosion on the station knocks out teleport machines and reveals three Skrull corpses, everyone is on edge and wondering if everyone is who they say they are. Especially since so many of them have undergone "changes". Gorani and Synosure, two members of the counsel that organizes things at Knowhere, also have issues with the new "vigilante team".

Frankly, the SECRET INVASION tie-in is not a welcome one on this title for me. Some may argue, "it makes sense for Skrulls to do stuff in space". Under normal circumstances, true. But SECRET INVASION is about the Skrulls going at Earth en masse' for both their new cult and revenge for past failures. They have little purpose to be bothering a Celestial head that is LITERALLY at the edge of the universe. That is like if the United States wanted to aid their war effort in Iraq and Afghanistan by...attacking New Zealand. It makes absolutely zero tactical sense on any level. The Guardians are not involved in Earth affairs and haven't in a good, long while. Even if they were, it is debatable if they would help when they are off to defend the entire universe, much less one planet on it. The other major reason it that it invites the risk of one character on the team being offered up as a Skrull agent to provide a "shock" and whatnot, and that would be annoying because I like all of the cast members here and don't want to abandon anyone.

Plus, part of what makes GOTG fun is that it was free of a lot of the self-hating angst and infighting of a lot of superhero books and focused on high adventure and some amusing (and bickering) one-liner interaction. Now we have, sigh, yet ANOTHER team at each other's throats before issue #6. It seems no team, in Heaven, Earth, or space, can organize without everyone wanting to murder each other. It is a wonder Civil War ended at all, considering the almost psychotic mistrust each and every Marvel superhero appears to have for each other. Not even Batman was that paranoid (he at least could team with the JLA and not assume they were all immediately plotting evil behind his cape). While I know Abnett & Lanning are hardly the inventors of this kind of team dynamic (some would argue it has always lingered, and simply was brought into the forefront by Bendis, and then imitated by everyone else since), I liked GOTG as one bastion against that, and now it appears to be gone. Especially since tie-in sales NEVER linger long and this book already has developed a steady audience.

That isn't to say I disliked the issue. Far from it. As always, Pelletier's artwork is masterful. DnA get in some good interaction with their characters and use the story to play on the character's insecurities. They also reveal the tidbit that Peter Quill had Mantis "teep" into the minds of some if not all of them to get them to "gell" as a team faster. While part of me understands that, again, we simply are back to the tired cliche of, "team formed under evil circumstances" that has been beaten into the ground a billion times with Professor Xavier these days. True, "slightly altering people's emotions to get them to work together to save the universe" isn't all that nefarious, which is why I am iffy about it. I simply am tired, so ****ing tired, of reading team books where we can't even get a year without going through the "team discovers a mole, overreacts, pummels each other" type of story. Some Marvel fans would say, "hey, Stan Lee wrote that kind of stuff in the 60's," but that is my point, it is CLICHE, it is STOCK, move the **** on already! It is even MORE predictable than the "heroes save the day" ending because it reeks of artificial drama and angst half the time. It was old when Homer was writing epic poems. I really like GOTG and saw it as a return to another era of comic book writing, a better, less pretentious era, and the fact that SI is essentially forcing the book into the same basic storyarc that Bendis appears to write in every single issue of New Avengers (everyone hates each other) disturbs me. It is like seeing a steady A+ student suddenly turn in a B+. It still is far above the norm, but a cause for concern.

Granted, there is an easy way out of this. None of the team turns out to be Skrulls. The only Skrull(s) turn out to be the two "counsel" people who started sowing the seeds of mistrust, or at least helped it along. The team comes together despite (or due to) Quill & Mantis' tampering and the Skrulls are toast. And that will and would be fine. I just am not ready to bid farewell to, say, Drax or Cosmo or whoever because of a silly tie-in that, in NO way, will improve sales beyond the 1-2 issues it is in. GOTG is a cult book and it's trying to be mainstream, and that always brings some issues with it.

I liked the mystery surrounding Victory and Starhawk, and as always the characters have very distinct ways of speaking to each other and play off each other very well (the animal rivalry between Rocket and Cosmo actually makes sense, and seeing the still-regenerating Gamora is almost painful). Even with my concerns, this is an excellent team book. It just is a team book that, frankly, has chosen to wander near a team storyline that I usually dislike or have seen botched simply to suckle at Bendis' sales teat for a few months. Here's hoping that DnA can buck the trend and make a good story out of, frankly, the most overused and overdone team storyline in the history of fiction. While they are usually masters at their craft, ANNIHILATION CONQUEST did have some hiccups. Still, no SI tie-in that I have read has been bad or even worse than the SI mini itself, so I do have some faith. I just fear a character being wasted is all.


Truth be told, I think you worry too much Dread. One thing I have learned with these two writers from Nova, is that they are master storytellers. I hated CW with a passion, but they turned in the only side story from CW that I truly enjoyed in Nova. Heck, they have made characters I use to not care two bits for into fantastic characters that I seem to enjoy reading more than the usual Marvel suspects on Earth.

I am a little afraid of one of the team being a skrull, but as of yet, I'm not convinced it'll happen. My best guess is that editorial mandate said they must do a tie in, and they are not to blame their. I do trust however that they will turn it into a story that moves along and compliments their own storyline. Heck, the tie in is only a couple of issues, so we won't have to live with it long.

Truth be told, even with the forced tie-in disease, the issue was a pretty great read. I am with you, I hope none of the main team is a skrull...or Cosmo. I am curious though, how the fallout from the "Teeping" will turn out. Sounds a little too much like Zatanna's forced mind rape to me...just not quite on that level.
 
Faustus told her she was never really pregnant right before he left and Sharon regained control of her mind. Was he serious or just trying to prevent Sharon from feeling guilty?

The pregnancy was very real. According to Bru, the idea he was going for that a LOT of people missed is that Sharon's life is literally saved by the embodiment of her and Steve's love for one another. Powerful stuff.
 
So the baby is really gone now? I don't like that. Babies are so often treated as sporadic plot devices to truck out for the shock value and then be forgotten just as quickly, and miscarriages occur so often in comics that it's a wonder these universes can reproduce at all.
 
Faustus told her she was never really pregnant right before he left and Sharon regained control of her mind. Was he serious or just trying to prevent Sharon from feeling guilty?

Using his influence over her to remove her guilt. Or make her forget the pregnancy because Zola is about to clone her fetus from dead issue. What? The Skull is a sick bastard. I'm sure that's crossed his mind.

Truth be told, I think you worry too much Dread. One thing I have learned with these two writers from Nova, is that they are master storytellers. I hated CW with a passion, but they turned in the only side story from CW that I truly enjoyed in Nova. Heck, they have made characters I use to not care two bits for into fantastic characters that I seem to enjoy reading more than the usual Marvel suspects on Earth.

I am a little afraid of one of the team being a skrull, but as of yet, I'm not convinced it'll happen. My best guess is that editorial mandate said they must do a tie in, and they are not to blame their. I do trust however that they will turn it into a story that moves along and compliments their own storyline. Heck, the tie in is only a couple of issues, so we won't have to live with it long.

Truth be told, even with the forced tie-in disease, the issue was a pretty great read. I am with you, I hope none of the main team is a skrull...or Cosmo. I am curious though, how the fallout from the "Teeping" will turn out. Sounds a little too much like Zatanna's forced mind rape to me...just not quite on that level.

I admit that my worry was probably an overreaction. But I also react that way when I fear a "all if not well in paradise" with a book I was really enjoying. I know DnA absolutely rock on NOVA and while I did say ANNIHILATION CONQUEST had some hiccups, I still preferred it to WORLD WAR HULK and other event tales. I am sure no matter what, it will be a good story. I just don't want to see a castmate basically wasted for a 2 issue sales boost, y'know?

The pregnancy was very real. According to Bru, the idea he was going for that a LOT of people missed is that Sharon's life is literally saved by the embodiment of her and Steve's love for one another. Powerful stuff.

That is pretty deep. Absolutely no one would probably have gotten that without prodding except for Alan Moore or whoever makes those sob-fests for the Oxygen Network. ;)

But, yeah, the preganancy was real, I always got that. I also knew there was no way that Marvel would let the kid live. Implying that the fetus literally saved her life of course puts it to another level. It was a rather violent termination, though.

So the baby is really gone now? I don't like that. Babies are so often treated as sporadic plot devices to truck out for the shock value and then be forgotten just as quickly, and miscarriages occur so often in comics that it's a wonder these universes can reproduce at all.

Technically, the idea that a "superhero" is somehow diminished and his/her tales become less interesting when some babe has to be raised in the background is as old as Greek myth, when Hercules' inconvenient family had to vanish so he could continue on adventures. Maybe even older. So on that level, one can understand why modern day superheroes and heroines and their lovers almost go out of their way to end pregnancies or get rid of kids or never have families at all.

Spider-Man is almost a case example of the lengths Marvel will go through in this regard. When he got serious with two ladies in a row, Felicia Hardy and Debra Whitman, they used the same story hook to jettison them (basically, "the b**** be crazy!"). Then of course came MJ, but even after years of marriage, when the idea of a baby came along, Norman Osborn had to whisk her away to Limbo (or MC2, an alternate reality that sells under 15k monthly). And then the marriage itself was whitewashed away after a generation. Considering Captain American's franchise isn't as vital to Marvel as Spidey's, expecting a baby to survive almost seems delusional.

Still, there is a part of me that wishes that superhero storytelling could grow up from the B.C. format and use families for more than simple shock value fodder when they are (often) viciously maimed or killed. The other problem is that a kid aging normally, or even in "Marvel time" implies that the rest of the characters have to age somewhat, or that time has passed, and that is a danger to the Marvel "Neverland" format of character aging.

So, I'm not surprised that Sharon's baby is toast. There was no way she would escape the Skull's clutches with it. Even if she had, I'd argue the next writer for Brubaker would have gotten rid of that baby even before getting Steve back in the mask. Comics work in a cyclical, neverending format, which can be both a strength and a weakness.
 
Ya know, I could see Mantis being a Skrull. Anyone else and I'd be a bit dissappointed, but something about Mantis just makes me cringe sometimes. Drax overhearing her and Starlord talking about how she basically mind-****ed them into joining the team should make for a good storyline. Expecially when it comes if he decides to tell anyone about this, furthering his character and trust for others, or if he keeps it to himself and just Drax'es around about it. Yeah, Drax'es is a word, look it up. And if he does tell anyone, I can't honestly see the team ever really getting back together, unless they are Starlord-less and Mantis-less. I'd really like to see Nova come in and step it up after he starts the corps again and become the "leader" of the Guardians in place of Peter, should he die or leave the team or whathaveyou.
 
What if that Peter Quill and Mantis were Skrulls, knowing that they were being overheard?
 
Ya know, I could see Mantis being a Skrull. Anyone else and I'd be a bit dissappointed, but something about Mantis just makes me cringe sometimes. Drax overhearing her and Starlord talking about how she basically mind-****ed them into joining the team should make for a good storyline. Expecially when it comes if he decides to tell anyone about this, furthering his character and trust for others, or if he keeps it to himself and just Drax'es around about it. Yeah, Drax'es is a word, look it up. And if he does tell anyone, I can't honestly see the team ever really getting back together, unless they are Starlord-less and Mantis-less. I'd really like to see Nova come in and step it up after he starts the corps again and become the "leader" of the Guardians in place of Peter, should he die or leave the team or whathaveyou.

Drax is new to the team thing so he may just want to strike out against them himself. He likely has other agendas on his plate, hence all the logged teleport time.

I have no problem with Mantis; she fits in well on the team and serves her role. Besides, it is good seeing a book other than AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE play with former C-List Avengers like her. Peter is the "normal guy" on the team (even if he is a half-alien and former Starlord) and losing him would be like, uh, losing that human guy on FARSCAPE.

See, I LIKE this cast and don't want to see any of them go right now. Teams need time to form dynamics and stuff that almost never happens in modern times because before issue #12, the team has already had a betrayal and a civil war.

What if that Peter Quill and Mantis were Skrulls, knowing that they were being overheard?

That is possible. They could be hiding on board and taking multiple forms at convenient times, rather than have simply replaced someone for months or years. In fact it sounds like a great way to handle the story without any of the risks to the cast (as in losing someone permanently), and hopefully it will be explored. Good idea.
 
Batgirl:

You know before this came out there was someone around here saying "give beechen a chance! he might fix things!" Man, that guy wasn't right.

X-Men First Class:

Jesus if every comic was this good... the comic industry would fold up overnight and die, due to its immediate abandonment by the ****-hungry comics-buying majority.

Probably for the best it's just this one thing, then.
 

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