Box Office 2015

"Force Awakens" May Open To $225M?

By Garth Franklin Monday November 9th 2015 05:31PM
Five weeks out from release, the first tracking numbers for J.J. Abrams' "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" have been revealed and these early estimates of the film's opening weekend are astonishing.
Collider reports that as of this week, the film is tracking to open to $225 million domestically - well ahead of current opening weekend record holder "Jurassic World" which opened to $208 million this past Summer. It's also ahead of "Marvel's The Avengers" which previously held the title for several years with $207 million.
In fact these early estimates could be on the low-end of the scale with the film set to play non-stop from Thursday night through Monday morning in cinemas around the country - something neither "Jurassic World" or "Avengers" have done.
"The Force Awakens" will also have no competition on IMAX screens for a month. Even so, no December movie has ever grossed over $100 million on opening weekend - let alone double that, so 'Force' is going to be break records left and right should it match predictions.
"Star Wars: The Force Awakens" opens December 18th.

The $225m tracking numbers I've seen are from Reelsource. They had Spectre, 6 weeks out opening to $121m. Only off by 75%. They are very hit and miss.

Though this part is very interesting

the film set to play non-stop from Thursday night through Monday morning in cinemas around the country - something neither "Jurassic World" or "Avengers" have done.
 
It's going to absolutely kill. I'm telling you. Bigger than Avatar.

Star Wars is not going to make $2 billion or anything close, it won't even beat out Jurassic World to be the #1 movie of the year.

About $1.4 billion will be where the train ends. The movie will open between $125-$150 million & domestically will end up around $400-$500 million.

Disney can overshoot with their numbers (something that's unfortunately spread with everyone else) but I know, based on the numbers, the way things going & previous history that this movie will not even come close to being the biggest movie in history.
 
If Star Wars makes more than 1.6b that will mean Avengers 2 would be the 4th biggest movie of the year. Wow, who that that coming?
 
I don't see it crossing a billion, most likely. Hunger Games is approaching & will start cutting into Spectre's gains before it has a chance to do so. I'd say it tops out around $850-$900 million.

Just my own prediction, of course I could be wrong and both films mentioned could end up crossing the mark.
 
Top 20 worldwide

1. Jurassic World $1668,9 million
2. Furious 7 $1514,8 million
3. Avengers: Age of Ultron $1405 million
4. Minions $1156,7 million
5. Inside Out $851,3 million
6. Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation $682,3 million
7. Fifty Shades of Grey $570,5 million
8. Spectre $545,3 million
9. Cinderella $542,7 million
10. Ant-Man $518,2 million
11. The Martian $478,8 million
12. San Andreas $470,5 million
13. Terminator: Genisys $440,6 million
14. Hotel Transylvania 2 $419,4 million
15. Kingsman: The Secret Service $414,4 million
16. Home $386 million
17. Monster Hunt $384,9 million
18. Mad Max: Fury Road $374,7 million
19. Taken 3 $326,5 million
20. The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water $315,9 million
 
My prediction for Star Wars is 700m domestic, 1.2B international = 1.9B worldwide
 
Star Wars is not going to make $2 billion or anything close, it won't even beat out Jurassic World to be the #1 movie of the year.

About $1.4 billion will be where the train ends. The movie will open between $125-$150 million & domestically will end up around $400-$500 million.

Disney can overshoot with their numbers (something that's unfortunately spread with everyone else) but I know, based on the numbers, the way things going & previous history that this movie will not even come close to being the biggest movie in history.

I'm saving this post. I made a screenshot. I'm telling you, Star Wars Fever is going to be INSANE in about 2 weeks. It's all people are talking about already. You make it sound like Jurassic World was some accidental fluke that happens every 15 years. We're living in an age now with inflated ticket prices and 3D and nostalgia and franchise dependence where people flock to anything familiar. This is it. It checks all the boxes. It isn't THAT hard to make 2 billion anymore.

I mean, think about it. This is the biggest film franchise ever. No contest.
 
I'm saving this post. I made a screenshot. I'm telling you, Star Wars Fever is going to be INSANE in about 2 weeks. It's all people are talking about already. You make it sound like Jurassic World was some accidental fluke that happens every 15 years. We're living in an age now with inflated ticket prices and 3D and nostalgia and franchise dependence where people flock to anything familiar. This is it. It checks all the boxes. It isn't THAT hard to make 2 billion anymore.

I mean, think about it. This is the biggest film franchise ever. No contest.

Okay, while I broadly agree with you, I can't go this far. You literally have no evidence for "its not that hard to make 2 billion anymore", given the only movies to make that much, ever, are the Cameron freaks.
 
I'm saving this post. I made a screenshot. I'm telling you, Star Wars Fever is going to be INSANE in about 2 weeks. It's all people are talking about already. You make it sound like Jurassic World was some accidental fluke that happens every 15 years. We're living in an age now with inflated ticket prices and 3D and nostalgia and franchise dependence where people flock to anything familiar. This is it. It checks all the boxes. It isn't THAT hard to make 2 billion anymore.

I mean, think about it. This is the biggest film franchise ever. No contest.

Yep. Even my friends who aren't major fans of the past movies are planning to see it. It's just that big of an event. And if the reviews are good, it's just going to get bigger.
 
Top 25 worldwide

1. Jurassic World $1668,9 million
2. Furious 7 $1514,8 million
3. Avengers: Age of Ultron $1405 million
4. Minions $1156,9 million
5. Inside Out $851,5 million
6. Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation $682,3 million
7. Spectre $679 million
8. Fifty Shades of Grey $570,5 million
9. Cinderella $542,7 million
10. Ant-Man $518,3 million
11. The Martian $488 million
12. San Andreas $470,5 million
13. Terminator: Genisys $440,6 million
14. Hotel Transylvania 2 $430,5 million
15. Kingsman: The Secret Service $414,4 million
16. Home $386 million
17. Monster Hunt $384,9 million
18. Mad Max: Fury Road $374,7 million
19. Taken 3 $326,5 million
20. The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water $315,9 million
21. Maze Runner: The Scorch Trials $311,9 million
22. The Divergent Series: Insurgent $297 million
23. Pitch Perfect 2 $286,6 million
24. The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 2 $255,7 million
25. Lost in Hong Kong $254,9 million
 
Top 25 worldwide


6. Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation $682,3 million
7. Spectre $679 million

I'm pleased that Spectre will end up the number one spy movie of the year.
Bond is the daddy of Spy movies and it's appropriate it remains number one even after 50 years and 24 movies.
 
Yeah, but Spectre was one of the weakest spy films of the year, Rogue Nation and Kingsman beat it in quality.
 
I'm saving this post. I made a screenshot. I'm telling you, Star Wars Fever is going to be INSANE in about 2 weeks. It's all people are talking about already. You make it sound like Jurassic World was some accidental fluke that happens every 15 years. We're living in an age now with inflated ticket prices and 3D and nostalgia and franchise dependence where people flock to anything familiar. This is it. It checks all the boxes. It isn't THAT hard to make 2 billion anymore.

I mean, think about it. This is the biggest film franchise ever. No contest.

You're naive if you truly believe that, especially the highlighted statement. Anyway, Jurassic World was a total surprise in terms of its success because absolutely no one predicted it would do that big & it did. Many thought it'd be lucky to hit $300 million worldwide, and it made $1.3 billion more than that.

I'll remind you that AoU was predicted to best the original and to become "the biggest movie of all time" and not only did it fail to meet that mark, it also isn't even the biggest movie of the year. Star Wars is going to suffer a similar fate...just like it has in the past when people proclaimed it'd become the biggest movie ever.

Yeah, it's going to be huge but it isn't breaking JW's opening weekend record and it isn't hitting $2 billion worldwide.
 
If if if JW still beats SW at the box office on opening weekend, is there any doubt that TFA is the less quality film of the two? I mean, really now :)
 
Top 25 worldwide

1. Jurassic World $1668,9 million
2. Furious 7 $1514,8 million
3. Avengers: Age of Ultron $1405 million
4. Minions $1157,1 million
5. Inside Out $851,6 million
6. Spectre $750,3 million
7. Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation $682,3 million
8. Fifty Shades of Grey $570,5 million
9. The Martian $545,6 million
10. Cinderella $542,7 million
11. Ant-Man $518,5 million
12. San Andreas $473,7 million
13. The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 2 $444,8 million
14. Terminator: Genisys $440,6 million
15. Hotel Transylvania 2 $437,1 million
16. Kingsman: The Secret Service $414,4 million
17. Home $386 million
18. Monster Hunt $384,9 million
19. Mad Max: Fury Road $375,8 million
20. Taken 3 $326,5 million
21. The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water $315,9 million
22. Maze Runner: The Scorch Trials $311 million
23. The Divergent Series: Insurgent $297 million
24. Pitch Perfect 2 $286,6 million
25. Lost in Hong Kong $255 million
 
Sad, I was hoping Ant-Man would break into the top 10. Ah well, at least The Martian did.

Is this a record for most billion dollar movies in a year?
 
Not yet, it will need a 5th Billion grosser, which will be Star Wars. Doesn't seem like Hunger Games or Spectre will get there. Last year looks much tamer in comparison.
 
As of December 3 domestic box office totals for the year stands at $9845,9 million. The record year of 2013 was standing at $9939 million at the same time. So it pretty much is up to Star Wars if 2015 is going to set a new record or not. But ticket sales probably won't reach the heights of 2002.
 
Top 25 worldwide

1. Jurassic World $1668,9 million
2. Furious 7 $1514,8 million
3. Avengers: Age of Ultron $1405 million
4. Minions $1157,2 million
5. Inside Out $851,6 million
6. Spectre $792,6 million
7. Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation $682,3 million
8. The Martian $573,4 million
9. Fifty Shades of Grey $570,5 million
10. Cinderella $542,7 million
11. The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 2 $523,8 million
12. Ant-Man $518,6 million
13. San Andreas $473,7 million
14. Hotel Transylvania 2 $441,5 million
15. Terminator: Genisys $440,6 million
16. Kingsman: The Secret Service $414,4 million
17. Home $386 million
18. Monster Hunt $384,9 million
19. Mad Max: Fury Road $375,8 million
20. Taken 3 $326,5 million
21. The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water $321,2 million
22. Maze Runner: The Scorch Trials $311,4 million
23. The Divergent Series: Insurgent $297 million
24. Pitch Perfect 2 $286,6 million
25. Lost in Hong Kong $255 million
 
Six Records Star Wars is Certain to Break

December 8th, 2015



The Force Awakens opens in theaters in less than two weeks, and the hype is growing. In fact, it now looks like the film could break well over a dozen major records during its box office run, not including some of the more esoteric records, like biggest non-opening Wednesday (currently $29.07 million, and held by Transformers, in case you were wondering.) That’s a lot records to keep track of. So in the lead up to the launch, we will be looking at these possible records divided into three groups. Today, we are going to look at the records we think are the most likely to fall: the ones we think have a 90% chance or better of being broken by The Force Awakens. In fact, in some cases, they have already fallen.
Highest Pre-sales on IMAX
According to IMAX, no film has ever had IMAX pre-sales greater that $1 million. The Force Awakens had $6.5 million before November began.
Well, that was easy.
Highest Pre-sales
Again, already broken. It broke the record for opening day presales, opening week, and so on, but we are not going to divide the record into smaller bits. That would be cheating.
Single Day Box Office, December
This record is currently held by The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey at $37.13 million. This is far less than The Force Awakens’ ticket pre-sales and if this record doesn’t fall, something has gone terribly wrong.
Opening Weekend Box Office, December
This record is also currently held by The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey at $84.62 million. This is very likely less than The Force Awakens will have made in pre-sales by the time it opens, so if this record doesn't fall, hats will be eaten.
2015 Preview Evening Receipts
So far, the best preview numbers we’ve seen this year were pulled in by The Avengers: Age of Ultron with $27.6 million. The only way this record might not fall is if The Force Awakens opened in a limited number of theaters late on Thursday evening. Disney aren’t that stupid: from what we’ve seen, it’s opening at 7pm on Thursday in every theater. This record should fall by a mile.
Widest Opening
The current record is 4,468, held by The Twilight Saga: Eclipse. Very early reports, have The Force Awakens opening in approximately 4,500 theaters. Granted, that number could be off by just 1% and Eclipse would keep the record, but Disney doesn’t seem to be holding the movie back. This one should fall too, if only by a small margin. Those are the records we think the film has a 90% chance or better of breaking. Next time we will look at the records that are closer to a coin toss, while this time next week we will look at the hard-but-possible records.
 
Eight Records Star Wars Needs to Break

December 10th, 2015



Expectations are a dual-edged sword. On the one hand, great expectations can drive people to theaters when they might not otherwise do so. On the other hand, great expectations can mean a movie could open with $100 million and still be considered a disappointment. Today, we list the eight records that Star Wars: The Force Awakens needs to break to be considered an unqualified success. It doesn’t need to break all of them, but it will need to break at least half of them. Unlike our previous article, when we ranked the records by how likely they were to fall, this time we are ranking them in chronological order. This way you can play along and tell immediately if The Force Awakens will merely be a blockbuster, or something special.
Thursday Previews
The current record for Thursday Previews is the $43.5 million recorded by Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part II. This could be a difficult record to overtake, as it is a lot easier to convince people to go on Thursday evening when they don't have to go to school the next day. Additionally, $43.5 million is a huge amount of money to earn in a very limited time if not every theater shows Star Wars: The Force Awakens on Thursday evening. However, reports are that many theaters sold out their Thursday evening shows at a record pace and this makes additional shows a lot more likely. This looks like a record that could well be broken.
Opening Day
The current record is $91.07 million, again held by Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Part II. There is some speculation that The Force Awakens will top $100 million during its opening day. If that happens, then this movie will be something special. It almost doesn't matter what happens during the rest of its run... as long as it does’t break records for terrible legs. Even if it barely tops Deathly Hallows, Part II, Christmas holidays begin on Monday, so it would take a serious Fanboy effect to cost it the next record.
Opening Weekend
The current record was set earlier this year by Jurassic World at $208.81 million. This is very nearly 2.5 times more than the biggest weekend in December record and just based on that, one would have to assume it will be really hard for The Force Awakens to break it. However, it does have some advantages, including the Christmas holidays, which start on opening day. Families could flood the theaters like no other film and there could be people planning on watching it repeatedly over the weekend.
Global Opening Weekend
This is another record held by Jurassic World at $524.42 million. The biggest obstacle for The Force Awakens to break that record can be summed up in one word: China. The film doesn't open in China until January 9th and Jurassic World opened with more than $100 million in that market alone. Being down $100 million could be too much to make up. On the other hand, I've seen predictions for an opening global weekend of over $650 million. $550 million is more likely, and this might prove to be a tough record to beat.
Second Weekend
Of all the records on this list , this is the one that is most likely to fall. While December releases tend to not have monster openings like summer blockbusters, but they tend to have amazing legs. The Force Awakens’ second weekend is Christmas weekend, which is very kind to holdovers. Last year, The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies dropped just 25% during the Christmas weekend. If The Force Awakens has the same sophomore stint decline, then it would only need to make $140 million opening weekend in order to break Jurassic World’s record of $106.59 million. Granted, The Battle of the Five Armies was a Wednesday release, so that helped its sophomore declines, but this year Christmas lands on a Friday. The last time that happened was 2009, which was the year Avatar came out. It only fell 2% on its second weekend. The time before that was 1998 and the sophomore class had just as long legs. The Christmas Friday advantage seems to make this record almost inevitable, even if the film opens on the low end of expectations.
Now we get to the big three on this list.
2015 Domestic Total Box Office
The biggest domestic release of the 2015 so far is Jurassic World at $652.20 million. This is a massive amount of money, but this might be one of the easier records to break. The Christmas break does amazing things to a film’s legs. A multiplier of four or more is surprisingly common, especially when a film opens the weekend before Christmas. Even an opening weekend of only $170 million could be enough to claim this record, and a $170 million opening weekend is on the very low end of expectations. On a side note, I may have committed a World Crime for using "only" in the previous sentence.
2015 International Total Box Office
This record is held by Furious 7 at a stunning $1.165 billion. I’m not sure if the international record will be harder to break than the worldwide record, but we will certainly have to wait longer to find out. It all depends on how well The Force Awakens does in China. A $300 million run in that market will go a long way in determining if this record falls. It could break the record in that market, and earn more than $400 million, but that’s probably the hardest thing to predict.
2015 Global Total Box Office
Another record Jurassic World holds that The Force Awakens is aiming to break. I've seen a worldwide prediction of $2 billion, which would destroy the current record of $1.669 billion. On a side note, it is possible for The Force Awakens to fail to become the biggest hit of 2015 both domestically and internationally, but still be number one worldwide. That would probably be the most interesting result, but I'm not sure how likely it is.
If Star Wars can break just four of these records, then there's no way anyone can complain about the film’s success. I can see it breaking three of them (Previews, Single-Day, Second Weekend) and have people say, “Yeah, but it's no Jurassic World.” Next time we will look at the records The Force Awakens is a long shot to top. Records so impressive that if it can break them, it will prove Disney underpaid when it bought the franchise.
 

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