Box Office 2016

With everyone talking about how the film will exceed expectations, this is effectively raising 'expectations'. The luxury of being both this and some underdog of sorts doesn't exist in my book.

What's more, that last one didn't seem to do so hot with the bourne name front and center. It paints a picture about what the brand can do alone(and with a so so received film). Not exactly batman if you will.
Plus there is the followup to 'bad' film damage.

Now some people I see under the impression that this film is simply coming 'off of the hype of Ultimatum', effectively and simply overlooking that last film. I suppose this is possible, after all star wars arguably benefited from the prequels stigma.

Still, see the first point.

The Bourne Legacy pretty much is irrelevant. Damon wasn't in it, Greengrass didn't direct it, the audience will pretty much have forgotten it. Also Damon has a lot of fresh good will coming off The Martian.

Bourne 5 could definitely do $600m+ if it's quality.
 
The one thing I don't get in comparing box office or suggesting the 'success' of any one particular film, and this is something to me, that has arisen in light of the 'Will Force Awakens Beat Titanic' debate, to me, one can only compare if two films of similar budget & heft are released for the same length of time exactly.

It's no wonder SW:TFA has not yet overtaken Titanic nor Avatar, it's only been released less than 8 weeks in comparison to either Cameron film's endless runs.

There is no set governing 'rule' for how long any one single film stays open at the cinema so comparitives are in the end end, pointless unless compared evenly.
 
Naw.

The points you brought up like The Bourne Legacy being a disappointment at the box office and critically as well as the fact that The Bourne Ultimatum came out 9 years ago are valid. However, I'm predicting this film grosses higher than The Bourne Ultimatum because people want to see Matt Damon's return. Nostalgia will play it's hand in the grosses and exceed the numbers of the third film. This is an old dog learning a new trick. We'll see in August.

The Bourne Legacy pretty much is irrelevant. Damon wasn't in it, Greengrass didn't direct it, the audience will pretty much have forgotten it. Also Damon has a lot of fresh good will coming off The Martian.

Bourne 5 could definitely do $600m+ if it's quality.

QQ(quick question)

are you guys thinking bourne(all things considered) is more relevant rather more of a draw than the current mission impossible stuff?
 
Damn, we're off to a bad start this year:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2016&p=.htm

Although I guess Star Wars ate up most of January and counts as 2015 (which is odd to me).

I don't see BvS having any problem getting the #1 spot for 2016. It's going to be between five films:

- BvS
- CA: Civil War
- Rogue One
- Finding Dory
- Suicide Squad

Everyone else is just opening acts. Amateur hour.
 
QQ(quick question)

are you guys thinking bourne(all things considered) is more relevant rather more of a draw than the current mission impossible stuff?

In the 2000s when The Bourne Supremacy and The Bourne Ultimatum came out? Absolutely. This is a franchise that even influenced James Bond. Then the surprise box office smash and critical darling that was Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol happened which led to Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation being successful as well. Universal is hoping for a similar "renaissance" with Bourne 5.

You can even compare Mission: Impossible III with The Bourne Legacy in terms of both films failing to meet expectations though the latter has a legitimate excuse.
 
Damn, we're off to a bad start this year:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2016&p=.htm

Although I guess Star Wars ate up most of January and counts as 2015 (which is odd to me).

I don't see BvS having any problem getting the #1 spot for 2016. It's going to be between five films:

- BvS
- CA: Civil War
- Rogue One
- Finding Dory
- Suicide Squad

Everyone else is just opening acts. Amateur hour.
There is always a surprise or two that nobody expects to be a hit.
 
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Top 5 Worldwide

1. Kung Fu Panda 3 $200,5 million
2. Ride Along 2 $100,7 million
3. The 5th Wave $84,2 milion
4. Quo Vado? $70,1 million
5. 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi $51,3 million
 
China Has Biggest Ever Day At Box Office

Courtesy of Bingo Group

February 9, 2016 | 04:15AM PT Patrick Frater

Asia Bureau Chief
China recorded its biggest ever day of theatrical takings on Monday, the first day of the Chinese New Year.
Gross takings amounted to RMB660 million ($100.5 million) according to the State Administration of Press, Publication, Radio, Film and Television. The previous highest day was July 18, 2015 according to the bureau, when takings hit RMB425 million.
Topping the chart was Stephen Chow’s “The Mermaid,” which earned $40.5 million (RMB270 million) according to the SAPPRFT. Local box office tracker Ent Group, showed that “The Mermaid” enjoyed 73,400 screenings at the nation’s theaters.
In second place was “The Man From Macau 3” (aka “From Vegas to Macau 3”) directed by Wong Jing and starring Chow Yun-fat. It achieved $25.9 million from 57,500 screenings.
Third was Soi Pou-cheang’s “The Monkey King 2” with $24.6 million from 55,800 screenings.
Chinese New Year (aka Lunar New Year and Spring Festival in different parts of Asia) has in the last couple of decades become a peak cinema going time for Chinese. This year the first day of the holidays began on Monday, which mean that many people had travelled earlier last week or over the weekend to be with their families. That allowed Monday (Feb. 8) to be a big day for the cinema and three major films – all China-Hong Kong co-productions — were released simultaneously.
Film industry regulators have also sought to use the period to maximize returns for Chinese-language films, and the extended holidays are covered by an extended “blackout period” when foreign titles cannot be given new releases.
The three newcomers almost completely halted the progress of “Kung Fu Panda 3,” which had released 10 days earlier. In fourth place it earned $2.91 million from 9,200 screenings. It now stands on an 11 day cumulative of $106 million.
That dramatic slide means there is real doubt as to whether “Kung Fu Panda 3,” a huge prestige U.S.-China co-production, will have the legs to overtake “Star Wars: The Force Awakens,” which came off Chinese screens on Sunday.
“Star Wars” was released on Jan. 9 and finished on $125.5 million. It dropped rapidly after a stellar $53 million opening weekend, but had little significant competition as the anticipated Chinese blockbusters all targeted the Chinese New Year crowds.
The underwhelming score for “Panda” will raise questions as to whether it should have released earlier in order to take on the slowing “Star Wars” or whether it should have avoided January and February altogether. January is usually one of the slowest months of the year at Chinese theaters. And as an official Chinese-made film, “Panda” had much more freedom to pick its own release date than any imported Hollywood movie.
 
Seems like this will be a big year for superhero films. 2015 only had Avengers 2 pulling in the big guns, while Ant-Man was more of an after-taste. This year there are two big films: Civil war and Batman V Superman, one intermediary film that will probably do big business: X-Men, and then there are 3 weirder entries with Suicide Squad, Deadpool and Doctors Strange, the first two getting a lot of hype and interest, while Doctor Strange will probably get the same attention once we get closer to it's release date.
 
Deadpool is going to make a fortune. It's legit. Word of mouth is going to carry it all the way until BvS comes out. It's got zero competition until then.
 
Yep. That's why I've been so confident that it'll do such big numbers. Not only is it a great movie but it's got over a month all to itself.
 
Another year is here and to kick things off here's the result of Fandango's survey of most anticipated movies.

Most Anticipated Movie:
1. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
2. Finding Dory
3. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
4. Untitled Jason Bourne Movie
5. Captain America: Civil War
6. Star Trek Beyond
7. Independence Day: Resurgence
8. X-Men: Apocalypse
9. Zoolander No. 2
10. The Jungle Book

As ususal no big surprises and most of these will likely end up in top ten or at least top twenty when the year's over. Personally I think it will be a softer year than 2015, or at least it probably will feel softer after a year when records fell left and right thanks to Jurassic World and Star Wars.
Interesting that
Finding Dory is number two on that list.
How is Zoolander 2 doing?
Is it competing well against Deadpool?
 
Just wanted to add that after seeing that Superbowl as,
I think that Jason Bourne or JB will do fine.
 
Deadpool seems like it's going to explode. It deserves to.
 
Nobody could have predicted this kind of success for Deadpool. We got a new A-list superhero.
 
Yea i thought 250 world wide would be great for Deadpool, considering the nature of the character and the budget.

It looks to do double that?!

Hopefully it gets a budget increase for the sequel... but not too much. I think a more modest budget helped it, in that the film makers had a lot of freedom yet also had to get more creative because they couldn't just throw money at every little thing.
 
Very pleased to see Deadpool killing it at the BO as well. Didn't love it, but it's great to see that character become a success story.


Very curious to see how BvS plays out in a month. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it underperforms in America. This is very naive since I'm only going off of my own social network, but I haven't heard from a single person who is interested in seeing it; all friends/family think it looks awful. Coming off MoS's slight underperformance, I'm cautious that it will underperform as well. Hoping I'm wrong, but I don't know.
 
Very pleased to see Deadpool killing it at the BO as well. Didn't love it, but it's great to see that character become a success story.


Very curious to see how BvS plays out in a month. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it underperforms in America. This is very naive since I'm only going off of my own social network, but I haven't heard from a single person who is interested in seeing it; all friends/family think it looks awful. Coming off MoS's slight underperformance, I'm cautious that it will underperform as well. Hoping I'm wrong, but I don't know.

I think the hook of actually seeing Batman and Superman in the same film will be enough for it to make good money, after that it depends all on how good it actually is I guess.
 
Deadpool is going to make a fortune. It's legit. Word of mouth is going to carry it all the way until BvS comes out. It's got zero competition until then.

Don't count out "Zootopia".
 
Yea i thought 250 world wide would be great for Deadpool, considering the nature of the character and the budget.

It looks to do double that?!

It could challenge X-Men 3 (adjusted for inflation) for biggest opening in the X-Men series and Fox didn't even throw them any recognizable X-Men in the advertising either.

Everything came together for the film and now Fox will be use Deadpool as their Iron Man, solo films and as the draw for X-Force.
 
I think the hook of actually seeing Batman and Superman in the same film will be enough for it to make good money, after that it depends all on how good it actually is I guess.

To an extent, definitely, but I think that's mainly big news solely among comic book fans. Team-up scenarios aren't anything new now, and personally I see this movie fighting too much of an uphill battle to play a Trump card unless it somehow pulls a Mad Max and storms out the gate like a champ (very positive RT/Metacritic numbers and great WOM).

That's what I think it will take to make this movie a box office success, whereas Deadpool succeeded this weekend because it has a lower threshold to reach: introduce a character that's new and quirky enough to distinguish itself from a current standard that isn't very high to begin with. And it's all played for laughs.
 
To an extent, definitely, but I think that's mainly big news solely among comic book fans. Team-up scenarios aren't anything new now, and personally I see this movie fighting too much of an uphill battle to play a Trump card unless it somehow pulls a Mad Max and storms out the gate like a champ (very positive RT/Metacritic numbers and great WOM).

That's what I think it will take to make this movie a box office success, whereas Deadpool succeeded this weekend because it has a lower threshold to reach: introduce a character that's new and quirky enough to distinguish itself from a current standard that isn't very high to begin with. And it's all played for laughs.

Very true, DP's style and quirkyness is fresh and exciting and being a comedy as well as a CBM gives it two angles of attack. It will in fact be interesting down the line to see how a sequel for it does with expectation and an audience knowing what to expect next time round, in this day and age people have short attention spans and what is new and fresh one day is old hat and predictable the next.

As for BVS I think the last trailer will get people pumped and after DP people will be excited for the next CBM to come along although as you say BVS is actually aiming much higher than DP in order to be classified a success, thats the trouble with high expectations going in.

One things for sure, after this start to the year the rest of it is going to be very interesting, in the CBM world alone, with so many coming to the table this year its a crowded market and to stand out will take something impressive.
 
What if Deadpool is the biggest cbm of the year

I think there will be a few riots in a few forums.

Apocalypse, Suicide Squad, and Dr. Strange ain't touching this opening weekend, though.
 

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