Brave and the Bold Casting Thread

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Funny thing is Lee Pace was also a Twilight vampire.



I am surprised by how overtly-racist the LOTR fandom turned out to be. It was even worse than Star Wars, and that's saying a lot. A bunch of comment threads read like a klan rally.
Not quite as shocking as when it turned out that apparently 85% of Ghostbusters fans of all things are ****ing monsters :funny:
 
I've never seen the films but I'm always surprised by how many known actors were in the Twilight series.
 
Walker wasn't a Twilight vampire, but, he did play a vampire hunter... him and Pace battle it out for the role lol
 
If any of them get it, I will be so disappointed. Huge step down from the likes of Bale, Keaton, or Pattinson.

Not a big fan of any of them as actors tbh.

Bradley Cooper
Jake Gyllenhaal
Ryan Gosling

That’s the level of prestige they should shoot for. Legitimate recognizable actors with name recognition playing the greatest superhero of all time. No need to scrape the bottom of the barrel like that. But if they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel might as well go with Ackles .
 
If any of them get it, I will be so disappointed. Huge step down from the likes of Bale, Keaton, or Pattinson.

Not a big fan of any of them as actors tbh.

Bradley Cooper
Jake Gyllenhaal
Ryan Gosling

That’s the level of prestige they should shoot for. Legitimate recognizable actors with name recognition playing the greatest superhero of all time. No need to scrape the bottom of the barrel like that. But if they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel might as well go with Ackles .
Except for the fact that most of the names Boom mentioned would be far better suited for Batman than Ackles would.
 
Except for the fact that most of the names Boom mentioned would be far better suited for Batman than Ackles would.
Not a fact but you’re welcome to your opinion as bad as I think it is. Ackles is also bottom of the barrel just like the other names Boom listed. Ackles’ Batman voice is wonderful but compared to the likes of Pattinson and Bale, he is a huge step down.

I’d accept Josh Hartnett as Batman. I think he would be great.
 
I'd take Ackles over Dornan or Pelphrey but he's not a great choice. I'd love for him to get some role in the DCU though. He's not some great thespian but he's got a certain quality to him.
 
If any of them get it, I will be so disappointed. Huge step down from the likes of Bale, Keaton, or Pattinson.

Not a big fan of any of them as actors tbh.

Bradley Cooper
Jake Gyllenhaal
Ryan Gosling

That’s the level of prestige they should shoot for. Legitimate recognizable actors with name recognition playing the greatest superhero of all time. No need to scrape the bottom of the barrel like that. But if they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel might as well go with Ackles .
So, here's the thing: I agree (up to a point - I think getting hung up on prestige is an issue and we all know how we respectively feel about Lee Pace for example) but I also simply think this is not going to happen. None of those three would ever sign the kind of insane contract whoever plays Batman is gonna have to sign. They're going to want to lock someone down ironclad for like ten years. I could see any of those three, brilliant choices all, signing up for a Nolan/Reeves style trilogy but this is never going to be that and I think the simple fact its part of a shared universe inherently robs it of that sense of prestige.
 
Not a fact but you’re welcome to your opinion as bad as I think it is. Ackles is also bottom of the barrel just like the other names Boom listed. Ackles’ Batman voice is wonderful but compared to the likes of Pattinson and Bale, he is a huge step down.

I’d accept Josh Hartnett as Batman. I think he would be great.
In what universe is Lee Pace a "bottom of the barrel" actor?
 
I'd take Ackles over Dornan or Pelphrey but he's not a great choice. I'd love for him to get some role in the DCU though. He's not some great thespian but he's got a certain quality to him.
The thing about Ackles is that he's a really good actor (I loved his performance in The Boys) but he's not a good fit for Bruce. There's something about him more suited for working class type of characters, and he also doesn't really have the... sophistication? Cerebral nature? that Bruce needs. In the animated films he did the limitations he has as Batman and Bruce Wayne become super obvious and in live-action it'd probably be worse. It's just not something that feels natural to him.

Initially I put him on a list for this but the more I think about it and revisit his performances in those films the more skeptical I am of him.
So, here's the thing: I agree (up to a point - I think getting hung up on prestige is an issue and we all know how we respectively feel about Lee Pace for example) but I also simply think this is not going to happen. None of those three would ever sign the kind of insane contract whoever plays Batman is gonna have to sign. They're going to want to lock someone down ironclad for like ten years. I could see any of those three, brilliant choices all, signing up for a Nolan/Reeves style trilogy but this is never going to be that and I think the simple fact its part of a shared universe inherently robs it of that sense of prestige.
I still think there's a shot with Gyllenhaal though. There's nothing about his current career that'd lead me to think he'd just flatly turn this down. Gosling is a total non-starter and Cooper would only happen if Cooper is /that/ eager to become the head of a mainstream franchise, but Gyllenhaal does seem to be weirdly plausible especially with how he's said he wants to play Batman in the past.
 
The thing about Ackles is that he's a really good actor (I loved his performance in The Boys) but he's not a good fit for Bruce. There's something about him more suited for working class type of characters, and he also doesn't really have the... sophistication? Cerebral nature? that Bruce needs. In the animated films he did the limitations he'd have in the Batman and Bruce Wayne roles become super obvious and in live-action it'd probably be worse. It's just not something that feels natural to him.

Initially I put him on a list for this but the more I think about it and revisit his performances in those films the more skeptical I am of him.

I still think there's a shot with Gyllenhaal though. There's nothing about his current career that'd lead me to think he'd just flatly turn this down. Gosling is a total non-starter and Cooper would only happen if Cooper is /that/ eager to become the head of a mainstream franchise, but Gyllenhaal does seem to be weirdly plausible especially with how he's said he wants to play Batman in the past.
That is exactly my take on Ackles in general and as Batman too. Him being characterized as some garbage D-List loser like some people like to is super unfair to him. He's always had something special about him, like... not that Jared Padalecki didn't have his own cheesy soap opera charm on Supernatural but from minute one Ackles was a higher calibre of performer who had a real soul to him.
 
That is exactly my take on Ackles in general and as Batman too. Him being characterized as some garbage D-List loser like some people like to is super unfair to him. He's always had something special about him, like... not that Jared Padalecki didn't have his own cheesy soap opera charm on Supernatural but from minute one Ackles was a higher calibre of performer who had a real soul to him.
It's probably a really generic fancast but in terms of big DC superheroes he feels waaay more like a Hal Jordan than a Batman.
 
If any of them get it, I will be so disappointed. Huge step down from the likes of Bale, Keaton, or Pattinson.

Not a big fan of any of them as actors tbh.

Bradley Cooper
Jake Gyllenhaal
Ryan Gosling

That’s the level of prestige they should shoot for. Legitimate recognizable actors with name recognition playing the greatest superhero of all time. No need to scrape the bottom of the barrel like that. But if they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel might as well go with Ackles .
It's worth remembering that Keaton only generally became thought of as an all-around great acting talent after he was in Batman, Lazarus. Other than Clean and Sober, which only about five people and their mothers saw, prior to that, he was thought of as being a great comedic talent, but for most people that's about as far as it went.
 
It's probably a really generic fancast but in terms of big DC superheroes he feels waaay more like a Hal Jordan than a Batman.
That would be very fun casting. If anything he's a little less generic than, like, Glen Powell or someone completely and utterly generic as Hal.
 
It's worth remembering that Keaton only generally became thought of as an all-around great acting talent after he was in Batman, Lazarus. Other than Clean and Sober, which only about five people and their mothers saw, prior to that, he was thought of as being a great comedic talent, but for most people that's about as far as it went.
Bale also wasn't the Christian Bale we know today. He had his street cred, especially because of American Psycho, but he wasn't the multi-time Oscar nominated darling we know today.


I do generally agree with the notion that said Batman actor needs to have some sort of credibility behind it and you can't just grab some dude that's absolutely mediocre and that's only been in supporting roles on low-tier TV or straight to video movies or something like that, but the notion that it /has/ to be this A-lister darling is absolutely ridiculous. What's most important is getting an actor that fits the role the best.
 
I can't really imagine calling Lee Pace, Joel Edgerton, Benjamin Walker or even some of the TV guys like Ethan Peck or ones I don't even particularly love like Jamie Dornan "the bottom of the barrel". They just objectively aren't - there's a big gap between Bale/Pattinson/Keaton and bottom of the barrel. Hell, Edgerton for instance isn't an actor I'd personally cast as Batman but he's entirely the calibre of actor we're used to in the role. That feels more based around their level of fame than their talent.

Hartnett sure isn't better than most of them. That isn't a jab against Hartnett but I think Pace, Walker and Edgerton are all either better actors or par with him.
 
If Lee and Edgerton are bottom of the barrel, Ackles is underneath the bottom of the barrel factory. Not even to say he can't act at all, but he ain't Batman worthy, especially after the likes of Bale and Pattinson. I wouldn't bet on an actor of that caliber either, but they can do better.
 
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Jake Gyllenhaal
Bradley Cooper
Jon Hamm

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Josh Hartnett
Michael Fassbender

I’m not big on these choices but if they decide go for a lesser known option:
Oliver Jackson Cohen (not sold on his look but he’s a good actor and could perform really well in the role)

Or a virtual unknown:
Tom Cullen (definitely a questionable Pick, I don’t think he has the gravitas for the role.. but he looks just like Bruce Wayne and I think he could be at least serviceable.)
 
Tom Cullen is downright phenomenal in Weekend and that movie should have catapulted him to more opportunities. He'd be terrific.
 

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