Breaking Bad

[TLH]

In the universe of this show, the Walt/Jesse fight probably stands as one of the biggest events so far.

 

[The Riddler]

He doesn't do it for no reason I guess. But Walt has been treating Jesse like he's totally and completely incompetent throughout the entire series. And several times he's been wrong to do so. Yes it's life and death, and Walt being harshly critical of Jesse is one thing, but here lately he's gotten very nasty and condescending about it. Even disrespectful. After everything Walt and Jesse have been through together, and now Walt is going to start being mistrustful of him? As I see it, spying on Jesse was a pretty big betrayal. Yes, I'll reiterate that he has his reasons, life and death, serious business, etc., but he also has more than enough reasons to trust him.

walt has always been condescending to jesse, often with good reason. jesse, until recently, has always been a fairly weak-willed guy. he's not the sharpest tool. however, while he's recently been shown to much more capable than originally thought, you have to understand walt is perfectly warranted to be so mistrusting of jesse. he hasn't seen what the viewer has; he has no idea what is going on. he's been basically out of the loop the entire season. from his point of view, jesse is turning on him, and now he has proof that jesse has been seeing gus.

overall, walt has been careless, and he's been dominated throughout the entire season despite a few baseless claims that he's in control of his life and he's "the one who knocks". skyler controls his money. gus controls the meth business and arguably how long he lives. jesse is no longer by his side. he's been beaten up and put in his place by mike at least twice this season. walt has been shown to have no power at all.

because of this, it'll be so much sweeter when heisenberg reveals himself by the end of the season to be more dangerous than any of the other characters could have imagined. this show wouldn't have had a bogdan speech about being the boss and an outburst about being "the danger" for nothing.

 

[Dr. Manhatten]

Another clue to the cancer returning: Think back to the first season and how in the storyline, it took a full month for Walt to tell his family about the cancer. It's been a few episodes since the check up so history may be repeating itself

 

[squeekness]

I knew it as soon as they showed Walt talking to that other guy getting the scan. I mean why bring it up?

 

[TLH]

I knew it as soon as they showed Walt talking to that other guy getting the scan. I mean why bring it up?

Do you mean why did the writers bring the cancer up unless it's returned? Because if so there are definitely many layers to that scene when Walt talks to the other patient. It obviously develops his character with his spiel on taking control and there's that moment where he cuts the guy off for his phone call -- something pre-cancer, pre-Heisenberg Walt would probably never do. And yeah, I do agree that the cancer has come back.

 

[squeekness]

It does show how much Walt has changed, yes. He does things he would never have considered before, like being so angry that Jessie hasn't killed Gus yet. He's being so insensitive about it, I mean he seemed so oblivious to the fact that Jessie didn't take killing that other guy so well... It's not murder is this easy thing.

 

[CrimsonDeath]

Hmm, funny thing I noticed looking up random stuff about Breaking Bad.

Remember Krazy-8, the DEA informant drug dealer killed by Walt in the basement after days of hesitation in the first season? The actor who played him is named Maximino Arciniega. What is the name of Gus' hermano murdered by Salamanca? Maximino Arciniega. Nice easter egg.

 

[squeekness]

I never would have caught that, lol.

 

[Asgard]

Lol. Thats pretty cool.

 

[kguillou]

GREAT episode, this season is really coming together. That fight was a long time coming.Walt and Jesse have always been at each other's throats the entire series and now they finally unleash all the rage each feel for each other. On the one hand, Jesse feels underappreciated by Walt, he's done alot for him, even killed because he asked him to. Yet from Walt's perspective, if you think about it, he would've been a lot better off if he didnt have Jesse. Walt had a great relationship with Gus until Jesse threatened and coaxed Walt into letting him join Gus' operation and Walt had to force Jesse down Gus' throat. Which is kind of why they're in this mess now. Thats whats great about this show, nobody's innocent.

 

[TLH]

I honestly thought that Walt was going to confess the truth about Jane in a moment of rage to hurt Jesse after that fight. Would have made the ending that much more epic, but then again, with that reveal still available to the writers, they can use it down the line at an even more monumental moment.

 

[Asgard]

Jesse wouldve killed Walt had he confessed.

 

[The Demon's Head]

I'm pretty sure Mike knows the truth about Jane. I think he'll tell Jesse, and Jesse will become Walt's nemesis in S5.

 

[Maximus One]

Now that I think of it, I really want Jesse to find out about that. I think he would still be conflicted about what to do though considering Jesse watched Walt mercilessly kill those 2 mexicans in his defense. I dunno though, I know I wouldn't be able to forgive somebody for some **** like that. Walt really has become truly reprehensible. It's actually quite a beautiful thing to see somebody fall into total darkness the way he has

 

[PWN3R]

Skylar is a special type of dumb and Gus is a god.

Damn.

 

[Master Chief]

I thought it was really ironic that the emmys were on at the same time as this episode, coz I'm pretty sure Cranston's performance tonight would have won him another one hahah damn, that cliffhanger was so good.

 

[kguillou]

Hot damn, yet another amazing BB epsiode! The season started a little slow and abstract but these last 4 episodes or so have been firing on all cylinders. You do not f*** with Gus!

 

[dru-zod2501]

*arrives very late to the party*

I'm just starting season 2 and this show is consistently phenomenal! Though it amazes me how blind Hank and the cops are. Put any other tv cops, like Goren & Eames, hell even Castle & Beckett they would've taken Walt down long before season 3, but those are just my musings. I look forward to seeing just how far Walt will fall. Season 4 is on now, right? Is he even doing it for his family anymore? Or is it mainly for love of power?

 

[kguillou]

You have to keep in mind though, Walt is Hank's brother in law. In Hank's mind, he's not even remotely considering the possibility that Walt would be involved with stuff like this. I think its completely believable that Hank hasn't pieced it together.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

Damn, it seems likely now that they'll need Walt's help somehow to save Gus.

 

[Soapy]

You do not f*** with Gus!

Haha. This pretty much sums up the episode.

I've always liked Gustavo so it's been really nice getting some Gus-centric episodes.

 

[Maximus One]

Wow. Just wow. Oh and as if the NA meeting wasn't enough but Jesse Pinkman is my ****ing hero!!! Ya know, cept for the whole meth addiction thing lol I loved how he totally schooled that mexican chemist

 

[CrimsonDeath]

Skylar is a special type of dumb and Gus is a god.

Damn.

Skylar showed the same type of arrogance and hubris Walt did at that drunken dinner when he steered Hank right back into the investigation of Heisenberg's identity. He should have left it alone. Maybe not the same kind of pride Walt shows, she was doing it so that Ted would pay the IRS to get them off their tracks so they don't eventually discover just how dirty it gets at the car wash. Now though, she needs to pay for her stupidity. Ted's ingratitude pushed her into a whole new can of worms....I hope he gets thrown into a barrel.

"At least last night you were real." And that's the real Walt who admits his mistakes at his most vulnerable, and thus shows that despite being willing to commit horrible deeds, Walt still holds within a measure of remorse for what he has provoked. Not only will his actions affect those he loves, but he will pay for it as well, in his psyche, in his soul. The cancer of Walt's moral degradation has turned Jesse against him for now, his "real" son, who killed for him, who knows the real ungrateful Walt. The "real" son he has in mind more than the real one who just had a birthday and is forgotten. That's what provokes his guilt and remorse now, Jesse against him, what will happen when Hank, Skyler and Junior all find out the extent of Walt's actions? The cost to them will determine if Walt breaking bad was worth it. Only then will Walt Junior truly understand why Walt does not want his son to remember him that way. Bryan Cranston truly deserves yet another Emmy for those scenes. Walt crying from the heart shows he can still elicit sympathy.

I thought Mike was done for minute there. He still has a lot of ass to kick. And that chain and pendant he took off Don Eliado was probably to show it to old man Salamanca.
Gus dying worried me for a second too. And to think that I wanted to see Walt blast him away as soon as possible in the beginning of this season. I hope he sticks around a lot longer.
And just how deep has Jesse been immersed in Gus' confidence now? Will all this eventually come down to Jesse vs Walt, to the death of one or the other?

 

[The Demon's Head]

Another amazing episode. I think this might just be the show's best season.

 

[TLH]

AMAZING EPISODE! Season 4 is shaping up to do the impossible: top Season 3. GUS is a total bad ass and based on the way the characters are developing him, honestly I don't want him to die. Which will probably make Walt's killing him all the more powerful, as it will truly make him the antagonist.

Jesse was bad ass with the Cartel chemists and despite having limited screentime, Cranston likely wins the Emmy with his performance. Amazing as usual is Breaking Bad.