Breaking Bad

[kguillou]

AW C"MON. Wow thats how they end the season finale??? That is a mean way to leave us hanging til next year. Great episode though.

 

[alexdunn]

That was f**ked. I'm a little disappointed that Jesse would do that. The aftermath next season is going to be ridiculous. Can't wait.

 

[Shifty]

Wow. What a roller coaster. Awesome finale. Now onto Rubicon! More thoughts after processing that and settling.

 

[kguillou]

Did he do it though? His hand moved to the side........

 

[Shifty]

The creator confirmed it.

 

[alexdunn]

awww Jesse.....

 

[kguillou]

The creator confirmed it.

What really? When?

 

[Shifty]

http://www.avclub.com/articles/vince-gilligan,42064/

Inside Full Measures
http://www.amctv.com/videos/breaking-bad/

 

[Batman713]

Wow. Heck of a finale. The wait for next season is gonna be painful (renewal for season 4 officially confirmed). Shame on AMC for packaging the Rubicon preview with BrBa to make BrBa look like a >1hr episode and attract viewers to Rubicon. Just for that Rubicon may lose potential viewers.

 

[Master Chief]

Yeah I'm not even gonna look into what the hell that show is coz of their BS listing lol.

my heart was pounding through my chest as soon as Walt got picked up right until the credits came up, dammn.

Spoiler

Everyone Walt has killed by hand has pretty much been scum, Jesse had to kill an innocent guy... damn, so f**ked up.

 

[Batman713]

Spoiler

Everyone Walt has killed by hand has pretty much been scum, Jesse had to kill an innocent guy... damn, so f**ked up.

Good point, I didn't pick up on that. You could argue whether that individual was innocent (ie. cooking meth is far from innocence) but for the most part he was (in contrast to the other people that bit the dust in this show).

 

[The Riddler]

what people will do for self-preservation...

what an end to a magnificent season. wow, i'm almost happy they kept the full on heisenberg v. gus for season 4.

 

[Keyser Soze]

For the second consecutive season, Breaking Bad has got me so wrapped up in the drama of the finale, that when we faded to black and "EXECUTIVE PRODUCER - VINCE GILLIGAN" filled the screen, I was caught totally surprise and shouted "No!" at the screen, not expecting it to end.

What a finale! What a season! What a show!

 

[Keyser Soze]

Could this be the best season yet of Breaking Bad? It's difficult, and I'll have to rewatch Season 3 to be sure. Season 2 is currently my favourite, but after a repeat viewing I think Season 3 could have a good chance of surpassing it. But I love all 3 seasons of Breaking Bad, and what I love about them is that each one is so distinct and different, with its own feel to it.

Season 1 was an adrenaline rush. With just 7 episodes there was no fat whatsoever - it was a lean, well-oiled machine of a season. It was also the funniest season, feeling a lot of the time like a black comedy.

Season 2, we saw a shift from black comedy to the show really becoming something darker. While 13 episodes made Season 2 a bit slower paced than the roller-coaster first season, that in turn allowed for more depth and nuance, and for the world of the show to be expanded. Plus, with the circular storytelling, with us building and building to that mysterious, inevitable ending with the pink bear, I think Season 2 stands as one of the most finely structured seasons - of any show - in TV history.

Season 3 saw yet another shift, and I think this season's place in the show's history is that it will be seen as one of transition. The story with the cousins coming after Walt seemed to be the kind of thing that followed on from the dynamics of Seasons 1 and 2 - but then that was resolved midway through the season, and the show became something quite different. Slower, but still filled with dread, and really digging into these characters' souls. I'd say that Season 3 is the season where Breaking Bad made a definitive move to be recognised not just as one of the best shows on TV today, but to try and take its place amongst the all-time greats like The Sopranos and The Wire. With every element of Season 3 - the acting, the writing, the directing, the cinematography - it seems like "Breaking Bad" is fully coming into its own, and striving to fill that void.

 

[Keyser Soze]

what people will do for self-preservation...

what an end to a magnificent season. wow, i'm almost happy they kept the full on heisenberg v. gus for season 4.

One thing I found interesting about this week's title - "Full Measure". Surely the "Full Measure" would have been killing Gus. Killing Gale to buy Walt some time before Gus can find another chemist to replace him is surely a "Half Measure", especially when he now knows for sure Gus wants him dead.

This certainly isn't over. The Walt VS Gus confrontation is now inevitable.

 

[Master Chief]

Good point, I didn't pick up on that. You could argue whether that individual was innocent (ie. cooking meth is far from innocence) but for the most part he was (in contrast to the other people that bit the dust in this show).

Whoever would argue that he's not innocent is an ass. the guy sings along to cheery music while watering plants lol.

One thing I found interesting about this week's title - "Full Measure". Surely the "Full Measure" would have been killing Gus. Killing Gale to buy Walt some time before Gus can find another chemist to replace him is surely a "Half Measure", especially when he now knows for sure Gus wants him dead.

This certainly isn't over. The Walt VS Gus confrontation is now inevitable.

Spoiler

The full measure was killing Gale. A half measure would have been like, telling Gale to go into hiding.

I can't begin to imagine what the premiere for next season is gonna be like.

I've let the episode sink in and I love the structure.

Spoiler

It starts off with Walt looking 20 years younger, in contrast to the last few minutes where he orders the death of a well-mannered chemist to save his ass.

Sooooo gooood.

 

[Golgo-13]

Wait i thought this ep was supposed to be 1 hr 45 minutes? I just watched it OnDemand, and Breaking Bad was 1 hr and the rest was the Rubicon preview...

Like someone else said, what a cruel..yet awesome way to end the season!

 

[lime]

Amazing Finale...

Any idea when the new season due?

 

[nogap87]

Love this show. Walt and Jessie are the best "odd couple" on television. Really disappointed that it wasn't an hour and 47 minutes. It didn't help that Rubicon was so boring compared to that awesome finale.

 

[Shifty]

We were all disappointed in Breaking Bad being its regular length but why pass up a commercial free pilot episode from AMC's next series? Rubicon has potential.

Just an episode ago Walt was talking Jesse out of killing and it ended up with Walt killing Jesse's targets. Then Jesse was talking Walt out of killing.

Once Gale was back you knew he was being groomed to replace Walt real soon but other than that everything else in the finale was something I didn't see coming. Saul lying to Mike even when threatened with violence, Jesse actually still in ABQ, Jesse killing Gale, Walt picked up right before he was going to kill Gale, etc.

Who was also fooled that Walt was selling out Jesse just to stay alive? That was one of my thoughts at the start of the season, Walt does care for Jesse but if the right situation occurred would he throw Jesse to the wolves to save himself?

Cranston secures another Emmy win with this season. Aaron Paul at least another Emmy nomination along with another Outstanding Drama. I would have to go with Mad Men's third season as being slightly better.

Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul discuss their cutthroat relationship on 'Breaking Bad'
The actors fall into the teacher-protégé dynamic that their characters have, but the conflicts are created in jest.

June 10, 2010|By Glenn Whipp, Special to the Los Angeles Times
Mark Boster / Los Angeles Times

Through much of the third season of "Breaking Bad," partners in crime Walter White and Jesse Pinkman took separate journeys. Walt beat cancer (for the time being) but lost his wife when she learned he was cooking and dealing drugs. And Jesse, following the overdose death of his girlfriend, came out of rehab determined to embrace the bleak truth about his place in the world.

Those parallel stories left little for actors Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul to do together, much to the dismay of series creator Vince Gilligan.
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"These two guys together really are a force," Gilligan says. "The plot takes us where it takes us, but we knew we had to get Bryan and Aaron back together again."

And so they did, fashioning an explosive, end-of-the-season reunion that takes the AMC series to darker places than Gilligan ever imagined it would go.

That goes for his actors too. Cranston, a two-time Emmy winner for playing the high school chemistry teacher who winds up on the wrong side of the law (and loving it), and Emmy-nominee Paul, playing the former student and sloppy meth maker whom Walt partners up with, readily admit they never know where the show is heading.

"A lot of 'Oh, my Gods' are spoken every time we get a script," Cranston says

Together, Cranston, 54, and Paul, 30, fall into the same sort of teacher-protégé dynamic that their characters have on the show — with a couple of notable differences. Their conflicts are manufactured and always good-natured. And, to the best of our knowledge, they aren't on the run from drug cartels or law enforcement authorities, which may explain why they were so relaxed during a recent conversation in Beverly Hills.

Vince Gilligan calls Walt and Jesse "The Odd Couple" for the 21st century.

Paul: Opposites attract. It was there from the first scene we shot outside a bank.

Cranston: That dialogue was essentially the core of the relationship. Jesse: "You are not like anything I remember in school. What are you, like, 60?" And me: "Fifty!"

Paul: [recalling further dialogue from the scene] "Are you crazy? If you're crazy, I need to know that."

Cranston: "The Odd Couple" only works if they're justifiably together. It wouldn't work if we didn't need each other. I need him to show me the ropes of the street. He needs me because we're making the best meth and he's making money. So that naturally put us together, but it doesn't mean you coalesce well. Jesse is an idiot.

Paul: A lovable idiot.
Cranston: From Walt's end, you baffle me with the depth of your ignorance. And me, you're probably saying, "He's such an old fart. He only has one way of doing things." Our music is different, our points of reference, our desires, our foundations.

Paul: Yet they're both very lonely at times. All they have is each other in a strange way.

Cranston: Walt's not immune to Jesse's boyish charms. Jesse needs direction. At the beginning, it served me to give him that direction. [He quotes one particularly gruesome episode] "I told you specifically to get the plastic tub. Why? Because if you put the body in porcelain, it will be eaten away and now we're cleaning up liquefied human remains." But now I begrudgingly feel for him. I don't think Walt would admit it. But it's there.

Paul: Both of these guys are obviously in a lot of denial about what they're doing. What's interesting about this season is that Jesse accepts the fact that he is, truly, a bad person. At least, he thinks he is.

Right. Because maybe he isn't. Vince has often referred to Jesse as the moral center of the show. [Cranston becomes visibly agitated.] Does that assessment bother you, Bryan?

Cranston: It doesn't bother me. It confuses me. If Jesse Pinkman is the moral center of the show, society is in deep trouble. He's the guy looking for the shortcut in life. He doesn't want to work hard. Maybe Jesse is the center for how life really is. People would love to be rich, but they're looking for the easy way. Who wouldn't want to win the lottery? Just to score.

Initially, Vince planned for Jesse to overdose at the end of the first season …

Paul: Yeah, and the producers, the entire cast, to this day will come up to me and ask, "Did you read the next episode?" "I haven't got it yet." "Oh? Ooooh … OK." And then they'll walk away. And my mind is racing.

Cranston: I bumped into Justin Timberlake. "Oh, I love the show! I love the show!" "You should come on the show." "I'd love to!" "I'm going to hold you to that." Then I came back and pitched an idea where Justin Timberlake comes on the show. "He's Jesse's cousin, only he's even darker and stranger. And he and Jesse have a showdown, and, all of a sudden, Justin kills Aaron Paul." And you can see Aaron's eyes start to widen …

Paul: He just kept going. And I'm like, "That's not a good idea. What are you talking about? Yeah, I know it's Justin Timberlake. JT. But … no."

Cranston: He's a damn good actor, though. Maybe we could have him come on for the musical version of "Breaking Bad." Just break out in song like "Glee."

Vince says that Walter has been bad for Jesse, but Bryan has been a great example for you, Aaron.

Paul: One hundred percent. I've grown so much, not just as an actor, but as a human being. Bryan is very giving. I've learned from him that it's not so much about what you're saying, it's about listening and understanding what the other person is saying. Every little thing he does is so honest and true.

(There's a long pause, and Paul looks at Cranston expectantly.)

Cranston: I'm sorry. I zoned out.

Paul: Whenever we do interviews together, he's like, "Make sure I'm on the pedestal I deserve to be on."

Cranston: And be sure to clean off the pedestal while you're at it.

9 months until season four...

 

[RetroNaz]

I wonder if jesse has killed Gale, or if he moved the gun at the last second and shot past him because of not wanting to follow through?

In any case, what an amazing way to wrap up the season.

Mike the Cleaner has quickly become one of my favourite characters on the show, and it was good to see him get more screen time.

 

[Golgo-13]

I'm wondering if they were actually going to kill Walt, or if there really was a leak in the lab? There was no clear cut sign that Walt was going to be off'ed right then, he just jumped the gun and assumed they were going to kill him. These two (Mike the P.I and the other guy) are pros and are quite capable of making it less obvious to Walt the end was coming.

I think next season we'll find out he wasn't about to be killed and that Gale was off'ed for no reason by Jesse.....or, they were trying to smoke out Jesse with the move they pulled with Walt.

I think there's much more to what meets the eye during those final two scenes.....

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

They were definitely going to kill him but as they saw it, there wasn't any point to making the hit seem subtle. Walt's just some science geek as far as they're concerned.

 

[RetroNaz]

They pulled their guns out on Walt...I think it's safe to say they were going to kill him.

 

[Asgard]

Damn. I felt really bad for Jesse. He got put in a bad situation. Part of it was his own fault though, when he went after those dealers.

I thought Walt really was going to sell Jesse out when he begged Mike to spare his life if he gave him up. That look he gave them after he told Jesse to off him was chilling.

I felt sorry for Gale, but I think he knew Gus was going to have Walt killed after he made sure that he would need only one more cook to duplicate Walt's recipe.