Brexit

[chamber-music]

A woman who appeared on BBC Question time is getting mocked on social media after revealing she was going to vote remain but switched leave on the day of the vote after seeing a straight banana in Lidl.
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She believed that silly old myth that the EU regulates the shape of fruit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromyth

 

[Orba]

A woman who appeared on BBC Question time is getting mocked on social media after revealing she was going to vote remain but switched leave on the day of the vote after seeing a straight banana in Lidl.

She believed that silly old myth that the EU regulates the shape of fruit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromyth

That link doesn't mention it but weren't a lot of those stories created by journalists on their nights out drinking in Brussels? If I remember they would have competitions to see who could create the most idiotic rumour. The winner was the one whose rumour was picked up and printed by the British Press.

 

[The Overlord]

It looks like after Brexit some people want to create an economic bloc between the UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand called CANZUK:

http://www.financialpost.com/m/wp/f...zealand-trade-alliance-is-quickly-catching-on

This does seem a bit desperate after Brexit, turing to the Common Wealth after the UK burned its bridges with the EU. Canada, Australia and New Zealand have no interest in trying to recreate the British Empire where London calls the shots, these other countries just got their full sovereignty not too long ago and only a truly equal partnership would hold any appeal.

 

[Marvolo]

The idiots should probably just go to their next door neighbors (EU) and admit that they made a mistake forget this Brexit idiocy.

 

[hopeless]

The idiots should probably just go to their next door neighbors (EU) and admit that they made a mistake forget this Brexit idiocy.

Or if the recent evidence is anything to go by wait for the EU to fragment before they begin picking up the pieces to rebuild it back into the form it should have taken in the first place before they let bureaucracy go nuts!

 

[The Overlord]

The idiots should probably just go to their next door neighbors (EU) and admit that they made a mistake forget this Brexit idiocy.

I think the problem is the pro Brexit Brits think they should reconnect with the Common Wealth after leaving the EU, while countries like Canada and Australia see the Common Wealth as some social club they go to occasionally to play sports, they do not see it see as an important union. It seems naive to try to replace EU membership with this CANZUK union, especially since Canada does more trading with America and Australia does more trading with China, then with the UK.

Its not 1914, the UK can't just expect the Common Wealth to bail it out of an ill informed adventure.

 

[The Endless]

Evidence atm is showing that Brexit was a good thing for Britain. The EU is ****ed and Britain's economy is growing. Huge companies like Google, Apple and Nissan are setting up shop in the UK and creating thousands of jobs.

Whereas Germany and France's economies are shrinking.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Evidence atm is showing that Brexit was a good thing for Britain. The EU is ****ed and Britain's economy is growing. Huge companies like Google, Apple and Nissan are setting up shop in the UK and creating thousands of jobs.

Whereas Germany and France's economies are shrinking.

I doubt the full ramifications EITHER WAY are so readily apparent as yet. Sorry but... That just sounds like propaganda, frankly. Something like this will take more than a couple of years to take the full stock of.

 

[The Overlord]

Now the UK is trying get help from Canada to negotiate trade deals:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/champagne-london-commonwealth-trade-1.4004367

It is looks like UK is determined to make the Commonwealth a thing. Even trying to get the US involved:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...mily-may-see-united-states-join-commonwealth/

This really seems desperate on the part of the UK, trying to replace the EU with the commonwealth and get the US involved with it.

 

[chamber-music]

Not surprised. Farage and some of the Tories have long held hope of using the commonwealth as some kind of political and trade alliance.

 

[The Overlord]

Not surprised. Farage and some of the Tories have long held hope of using the commonwealth as some kind of political and trade alliance.

The problem is I don't know why America would want to join the Commonwealth given the American Revolution and countries like Canada and Australia treat the Commonwealth like a club where they play sports occasionally, Canadians and Australians have developed identities separate from the UK at this point and have closer economic ties with other countries then they have with the UK.

It really comes off as the UK being nostalgic for its old empire at this point, you can't move forward by always looking back.

I gotta admit, after the Queen dies, I wouldn't mind Canada becoming a federal republic, just so we don't have to deal with Charles' goofy face on our money. t:

 

[hopeless]

Meh!

Sorry with whose in charge of the US that would be spectacularly stupid as it undoubtedly involve Farage trying to take advantage so nope!

As for the Commonwealth bit, seriously?

With all the roadblocks they're hyping about with the House of Lords and they haven't formalized Brexit so at this stage all they can hope for is maintain their current relationship with Canada until they can focus on something concrete after they stop delaying Brexit and actually get on with it!

As for the US they need to stay clear until the current Trump mess is resolved or pray he doesn't turn into the Fourth Reich!

Harsh maybe but some lessons of history need to be remembered and somebody over there definitely hasn't!

 

[Iceman]

Evidence atm is showing that Brexit was a good thing for Britain. The EU is ****ed and Britain's economy is growing. Huge companies like Google, Apple and Nissan are setting up shop in the UK and creating thousands of jobs.

Whereas Germany and France's economies are shrinking.

Haha, we haven't even left yet. There can't be any evidence of whether the move was overall good or bad until a fair amount of time after we've left.

 

[Donner]

The problem is I don't know why America would want to join the Commonwealth given the American Revolution and countries like Canada and Australia treat the Commonwealth like a club where they play sports occasionally, Canadians and Australians have developed identities separate from the UK at this point and have closer economic ties with other countries then they have with the UK.

It really comes off as the UK being nostalgic for its old empire at this point, you can't move forward by always looking back.

I gotta admit, after the Queen dies, I wouldn't mind Canada becoming a federal republic, just so we don't have to deal with Charles' goofy face on our money. t:

I would rather Harry's face. But after a long night of drinking and waking up on a park bench. It would be more in line with Canadian culture

 

[Tacit Ronin]

As for the US they need to stay clear until the current Trump mess is resolved or pray he doesn't turn into the Fourth Reich!

Isn't it the other way around? Trump is the guy who wants to have a closer relationship with the UK. Obama told them to get in the back of the queue. If the next president is a dem, he/she might have the same attitude as Obama.

 

[chamber-music]

The problem is I don't know why America would want to join the Commonwealth given the American Revolution and countries like Canada and Australia treat the Commonwealth like a club where they play sports occasionally, Canadians and Australians have developed identities separate from the UK at this point and have closer economic ties with other countries then they have with the UK.

It really comes off as the UK being nostalgic for its old empire at this point, you can't move forward by always looking back.

Farage and some of the Tories are all about turning the clock back to the 20th century British Empire.

They are a arrogant minority who think Britain the country can dine off it's past reputation and unfortunately all they will find is it will make the country increasingly irrelevant in the global picture.

None of them seem to realize the world has moved on and does not care about all that old stuff.

You move with the times or you end up getting left behind.

 

[The Overlord]

Farage and some of the Tories are all about turning the clock back to the 20th century British Empire.

They are a arrogant minority who think Britain the country can dine off it's past reputation and unfortunately all they will find is it will make the country increasingly irrelevant in the global picture.

None of them seem to realize the world has moved on and does not care about all that old stuff.

You move with the times or you end up getting left behind.

I think the problem is Farage and those Tories know nothing about Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries.

Its not 1914, where those countries were patriotic members of the British Empire and would support the UK in anything, even in an insane venture like WW1, these countries have seperate interests from the UK and Canada has being making its decisions on the world stage for a long time, like telling off France and the UK during the Suez Crisis.

Countries like Canada and Australia were still willing to help the UK in reasonable ways, but not at the cost of their own interests.

Its sad to say that May seems to have gotten the Queen roped into trying to get the US involved in the Commonwealth.

The Commonwealth is too far flung to help the UK replace the EU.

 

[chamber-music]

I think the problem is Farage and those Tories know nothing about Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries.

Its not 1914, where those countries were patriotic members of the British Empire and would support the UK in anything, even in an insane venture like WW1, these countries have seperate interests from the UK and Canada has being making its decisions on the world stage for a long time, like telling off France and the UK during the Suez Crisis.

Countries like Canada and Australia were still willing to help the UK in reasonable ways, but not at the cost of their own interests.

Its sad to say that May seems to have gotten the Queen roped into trying to get the US involved in the Commonwealth.

The Commonwealth is too far flung to help the UK replace the EU.

Yep. Many countries like Jamaica and Australia have a republic movement as well. Trying to politicize the monarch is just going to add fuel to those movements.

 

[Lilbaz]

I think the problem is Farage and those Tories know nothing about Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other Commonwealth countries.

Its not 1914, where those countries were patriotic members of the British Empire and would support the UK in anything, even in an insane venture like WW1, these countries have seperate interests from the UK and Canada has being making its decisions on the world stage for a long time, like telling off France and the UK during the Suez Crisis.

Countries like Canada and Australia were still willing to help the UK in reasonable ways, but not at the cost of their own interests.

Its sad to say that May seems to have gotten the Queen roped into trying to get the US involved in the Commonwealth.

The Commonwealth is too far flung to help the UK replace the EU.

Why? Our main export are services. Distance doesn't make any difference.

 

[The Overlord]

Yep. Many countries like Jamaica and Australia have a republic movement as well. Trying to politicize the monarch is just going to add fuel to those movements.

Well Canada does not have a Republic movement yet, but I doubt Quebec will be thrilled at this attempt to bring back the British Empire, so if the UK pushes too hard, it could create one.

Frankly after the Queen dies, I think the Commonwealth nations should consider if we want to keep the monarchy.

Why? Our main export are services. Distance doesn't make any difference.

Except at this point Canada and Australia have closer economic ties with countries other the UK, that are bigger and closer in distance to them.

I am not sure how an economic alliance between these Commonwealth countries will work and how it will benefit everyone equally and not just become a rather useless body. There is a reason why most off its members treat it like a sports club.

 

[Dr Lee]

With the possibility of Article 50 process starting in the next day or so..... Scotland have now thrown their toys out the pram and are whinging about an IndyRef2...

 

[hopeless]

With the possibility of Article 50 process starting in the next day or so..... Scotland have now thrown their toys out the pram and are whinging about an IndyRef2...

I wish they stop messing around and just either admit it's just a ploy to get more benefits they can crow about or just get Theresa May to agree to a second Scottish Referendum in return for stop buggering about!

Maybe May should point that out to help them realise it's either shut up or get on with it!

Apparently some of the members of the House of Lords are only in it for the money and not putting in the work that comes with it!

It's not as if they're the only ones but it could be worse... and speaking of that how long before the Republicans reach self detonation?!!

 

[Dr Lee]

An independent Scotland would be completely in the ****ter... their supposedly prized Clyde Shipbuilding will be gone... the famed Oil resources aren't there... the country would need a LOT of assistance from outside and if Spain gets their way, it won't be from the EU...

 

[Dr. Evil]

Scotland wants to leave again?

 

[Dr Lee]

maybe... think it's more a case that Sturgeon & Salmond are throwing the last dice they have along with a massive hissy fit