Brian K. Vaughan leaving Runaways at issue #24.

I new this crap would happen. That bum Vaughan is probbaly leaving so he can write a new more mainstream book, i would be surprised if he turns up in an X-men or spider-man book or even at DC comics. The same thing that happned to generation X after the original creatos left, is gonna happen to runaways sadly, buy that i mean bad stories and evenutally cancellation.
 
Dread said:
But on that same token, go overboard and kill all of your stars, and the book loses steam. EXILES still has solid sales (as in it sells comfortably around the 70's or 80's of the Top 100) but it's not as hot as it was in the beginning. Every franchise needs some standouts to sell it. The Runaways to me work as an team book; it's not Chase or Nico or Karolina who sell issues, but all of them together. That's a far cry from some other team books, where you could argue that Wolverine, Gambit, and/or Rogue were once carrying X-MEN for long stretches of time in the 90's.

Besides, books where characters die off every arc can make people get weary, as I've heard from the new team on NEW X-MEN who're blasting through secondary characters like there was no tomorrow.

I mean, really, how many major cast members have died on the book so far? Two. Alex and Gert. Many issues apart. And you also got two charcters to replace them, Victor for Alex and Xavin for Gert. And you could argue Alex was being set up as the traitor for the first volume, whereas Gert's death shook up the status quo. But that's not the same as, say, a writer who'd want to go on killing sprees every arc. That breeds apathy.

I honestly expect another death within the next 2- 3 years. Possibly Xavin, although apparently certain things are "coming to a head" soon, so maybe Vaughn will have something set up that'll make me feel otherwise.I think Vaughn set the book up to show the harshness of life for runaways and young heroes as he thought it should be and i think death was an integral part of that. Weigh in the fact that a team of young runaways HAS to change sooner or later (unlike the avengers) due to its aim being to show young heroes and five years down the line CHase should be considered an adult (not that this means he has to leave, of course, it's just the same characters cannot go on forever in a book like this) cos I think he's... 17 at the moment? correct me if im wrong


I think people are panicking talking of cancellation. It's well-known that many higher-ups plug this book. Theyre obvously fans. Why plug books you like, especially ones that can benefit from civil war tie-ins and new creative teams?
 
Dread said:
YA is being relaunched with a new #1 early next year.... They likely feel that a relaunch at #1 can be a good jumping on point, and plus it'd likely add a few readers to it in the short term.

It's easy to laugh off Marvel's "relaunch with #1, repeat" philosophy with books, but sometimes it helps. MOON KNIGHT and GHOST RIDER, two franchises who languished and skidded during the 90's, are Top 25 books.


I hate th relaunch scheme. I want to see my titles reach high numbers as it adds some history to it. I know the last arc ended in a kind of "Rebirth" kind of way but there was no need to relaunch.
 
Colossal Spoons said:
I hate th relaunch scheme. I want to see my titles reach high numbers as it adds some history to it. I know the last arc ended in a kind of "Rebirth" kind of way but there was no need to relaunch.

Both Moon Knight and Ghost Rider definitely had rebirths in the character that justified the resets. With the likes of Spider-Man it's desperation, but I'm all up for a young book relaunching, although I wish my Powers collection had kept its Image numbering :(
 
MyPokerShirt said:
I honestly expect another death within the next 2- 3 years. Possibly Xavin, although apparently certain things are "coming to a head" soon, so maybe Vaughn will have something set up that'll make me feel otherwise.I think Vaughn set the book up to show the harshness of life for runaways and young heroes as he thought it should be and i think death was an integral part of that. Weigh in the fact that a team of young runaways HAS to change sooner or later (unlike the avengers) due to its aim being to show young heroes and five years down the line CHase should be considered an adult (not that this means he has to leave, of course, it's just the same characters cannot go on forever in a book like this) cos I think he's... 17 at the moment? correct me if im wrong
2-3 years of issues is 24-36 issues so of course expecting something like that is common for a lot of books. I could argue most team books, especially nowadays, easily have some sort of major death within 36 issues. If they even last that long. Even (and especially) Ultimate books.

As for character ages, I wouldn't worry about it; Marvel Time passes way slower than "real time". I mean, Franklin Richards was born at the end of the 60's and he's not even 12. Peter Parker was introduced at 15-16 and no writer would DARE claim he's older than 26 now (because any character over 30 is downright ancient and needs to be either bald, immortal, or have gray at the temples). Most of the Power Pack have been around for over 25 years and have maybe aged 10. So I wouldn't worry about any of the Runaways "aging". If they're around for 5 more years, I doubt they'd be more than a year older. Characters only see large jumps in ages when they're off the stage for some time and then "speed grow". Kind of like soap operas. The kid'll "go off to boarding school" and then return 10 years older.

I think people are panicking talking of cancellation. It's well-known that many higher-ups plug this book. Theyre obvously fans. Why plug books you like, especially ones that can benefit from civil war tie-ins and new creative teams?
We're paniccing because the creator who launched it is also an incredible talent that we don't want to leave, although the news that he "picked his successor" is good news. Plus, Marvel has historically mistreated even HOT books with shakey creative changes, much less books hovering in the Top 90's of the sales charts. The tiniest of transfer slip-ups or drop offs can spell curtains for the book.

Just because Marvel's writers, editors, etc like a book doesn't mean it can be spared the axe. Hell, I'm amazed MTU made it 25 issues. I still think that was some sort of payback to Kirkman for MARVEL ZOMBIES.

In my case, RUNAWAYS has been something of a rock for me at Marvel; whenever other books sucked or were late, or whenever the editorial decisions blew, it was always there, on time and always great with terrific characters and twisting stories. A change of creative team means that status could change, which naturally makes people nervous.

Colossal Spoons said:
I hate th relaunch scheme. I want to see my titles reach high numbers as it adds some history to it. I know the last arc ended in a kind of "Rebirth" kind of way but there was no need to relaunch.
True, and for many longtime ongoing titles, a relaunch and renumbering works on sales for the short term but after enough time it just reverts back to it's old sales anyway. For instance, IRON MAN is selling about the same as it was 5 years ago now, when they had the old numbering. But somtimes when the issue is some hot "number" like issue #100 or #500 under the old numbering, they switch back. I see it as one of Marvel's many tactics where they attempt to have it both ways.
 
This is very sad news. Vaughan really made this book special, and I am sure that many years from now, this is going to be considered a classic book. I jumped into this series during "Season Two" and it really sucked me in. It has become one of my favs.:(

Joss Whedon will be sticking around at Marvel after Astonishing X-Men, Quesada said, noting that there will be some announcements coming soon that will mention this.

Hmmm, the new creative team is going to be announced soon, Whedon is a fan.....hmmm...:hyper:
 
Quesada just announced that Whedon is sticking around at Marvel to write another title after he finishes Astonishing. Whedon has been very vocal on various occasions that Runaways is his absolute favorite comic book.

Hmm...?
 
I would orgasim, then die of sheer bliss if this were the case.:o
 
PWN3R RANGER said:
I would orgasim, then die of sheer bliss if this were the case.:o

That would be rather pointless considering if you died you wouldn't be around to enjoy the awesomeness. :oldrazz:
 
PWN3R RANGER said:
I would orgasim, then die of sheer bliss if this were the case.:o
If Whedon were to take over on RUNAWAYS, I, on the other hand, would judge the writer on the quality of his work on the title, not simply his name. I'm funny like that. ;)

Any writer can have good or bad work, no matter what their name is, or can simply be an odd fit for a title. Bendis is far better on crime noir or solo superheroics than he ever will be on a team book. Zeb Wells was lambasted for his NEW WARRIORS but is scoring points for YA/RUNAWAYS. And even the ending to Alan Moore's THE KILLING JOKE was rather dopey. There, I said it.
 
In fairness Runaways is traditionally girl-hero-heavy. Just Whedon's type of book
 
MyPokerShirt said:
In fairness Runaways is traditionally girl-hero-heavy. Just Whedon's type of book
Touche'.

But that's not the same as, say, reducing Chase and Victor to "spunky sidekicks" in favor of the invincible, almighty Nico or something. I mean, no X-Man but Kitty has done diddly on Astonishing for a few issues now. It's nice that Logan's not the one hogging there but it's sort of like the agruement of, "but DC does it too!". Two wrongs don't make a right. If one character hogs too long it gets annoying. That's my concern.

Plus, Whedon's been decompressed as hell on ASTONISHING. This last arc could easily be done in 4 issues, not 6.
 
BrianWilly said:
Quesada just announced that Whedon is sticking around at Marvel to write another title after he finishes Astonishing. Whedon has been very vocal on various occasions that Runaways is his absolute favorite comic book.

Hmm...?
I already said all this:huh:


what was that rodney dangerfield line again:csad:
 
Dread said:
Touche'.

But that's not the same as, say, reducing Chase and Victor to "spunky sidekicks" in favor of the invincible, almighty Nico or something. I mean, no X-Man but Kitty has done diddly on Astonishing for a few issues now. It's nice that Logan's not the one hogging there but it's sort of like the agruement of, "but DC does it too!". Two wrongs don't make a right. If one character hogs too long it gets annoying. That's my concern.

Plus, Whedon's been decompressed as hell on ASTONISHING. This last arc could easily be done in 4 issues, not 6.
Yes, it would be teriffic to sacrifice pages of character moments to move the plot of a superhero comic along.:whatever:
 
Not Jake said:
Yes, it would be teriffic to sacrifice pages of character moments to move the plot of a superhero comic along.:whatever:


Let me take a WIIILD guess. You love Bendis on NA, right?
 

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