Bring back MX, (Muhammad X)

[Super_Ludacris]

As long as he isn't constantly being punked by Batman...

Its Bruce, I would allow it. Technically he's black anyway

 

[RockSP]

Its Bruce, I would allow it. Technically he's black anyway

Yeah right. About as black as Bill Clinton.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Yeah right. About as black as Bill Clinton.

Grumpy dude with commitment issues but is bagging women left and right, stays out on the street all night, spends a lot of money on his ride, hates the white man (in this case the perma-white skin man), hands down a lotta work to his lil mans and them (the Bat-family) and hates his cheery colleagues at work (JLA). Sounds nubian to me

 

[Varient]

who in here is actually black?

None of us.

We are all white posers,....


Geez,... you can't ask such a question any better than that?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm a rather seafoamy shade of green, myself.

 

[fifthfiend]

Dude your superman sounds like he would spend to much time on little crap, and not enough on much more important issues. Superman can protect protestors, by telling them to find other ways to get their point accross. You want superman to stop a family from getting thrown out their house, tell them to pay their damn mortgage.

What I like the best is that you apparently don't consider mortgages and the payment thereof to be "big issues." Have you read any newspaper in the last six months?

(Side note: when billionaires don't pay their mortgages the Federal Reserve gives them hundreds of billions of dollars' worth of free money.

But they're Rich People! So they must have deserved it.)

I dunno, Golden age superman beat down wife beaters, and did all that "protect the little guy" stuff, back then he was short tempered.

I actually feel wife beaters should be Wonder Woman's job, because if you're going to have someone beating up wife beaters it should totally be a girl.

 

[Brotha-Man]

I'd like to say a few things on the subject of Muhammad X.

First, his idea, if the people who made him cared enough, could have made him into a real good and inspiring character. There is enough unexplored territory in black communities that could be used for back drop, but DC, unlike Marvel, refuses to deeply explore any solid African-American heritage to make a character out of it.

Second, due to the fact that he was probably made with the sole purpose of pasifying us "angry blacks", the creators haven't given him a second thought. He was made to make Superman look good, and though this fact urks me to the bone as more shrouded racism in comics, it is the truth behind Muhammad X.

Third, I hope he comes back, but the only way for that to happen is to have people write in and ask for him because the truth is that the white DC comic book creators don't want a powerful and inspiring brotha like X gaining fame unless it is absolutely necessary. Then there is always the off chance that he makes to the main stream, most people reading comics aren't of African-American heritage like me, and there for his supporting fans will only get him enough comics for him to suddenly die in. It is the way of America, and until we as a people do something about it, it will always be that way.

Back on topic, yeah, I too would like to see Muhammad X back in action. Goin head to head with famious villains, and showing the world that black people do matter.

(P.S. I'm roleplaying as him in one of the DC RPGs, trying to bring him out into the world in my own little way.)

 

[cerealkiller182]

I'd like to say a few things on the subject of Muhammad X.

First, his idea, if the people who made him cared enough, could have made him into a real good and inspiring character. There is enough unexplored territory in black communities that could be used for back drop, but DC, unlike Marvel, refuses to deeply explore any solid African-American heritage to make a character out of it.

Second, due to the fact that he was probably made with the sole purpose of pasifying us "angry blacks", the creators haven't given him a second thought. He was made to make Superman look good, and though this fact urks me to the bone as more shrouded racism in comics, it is the truth behind Muhammad X.

Third, I hope he comes back, but the only way for that to happen is to have people write in and ask for him because the truth is that the white DC comic book creators don't want a powerful and inspiring brotha like X gaining fame unless it is absolutely necessary. Then there is always the off chance that he makes to the main stream, most people reading comics aren't of African-American heritage like me, and there for his supporting fans will only get him enough comics for him to suddenly die in. It is the way of America, and until we as a people do something about it, it will always be that way.

Back on topic, yeah, I too would like to see Muhammad X back in action. Goin head to head with famious villains, and showing the world that black people do matter.

(P.S. I'm roleplaying as him in one of the DC RPGs, trying to bring him out into the world in my own little way.)

I agreewith your first two point. But the fact that the white creators dont want strong black characters seems highly unlikely. Not to say its not possible but when dealing with people who make a living off of fiction it seems to me like they would want variety

I think their biggest problem is them being white and not able to relate to black community thus black characters are either mediocre and safely played or very stereotypical. This leads to hindering their writing and creative process which hinders the book altogether. I realize that this is also a safe answer, Im just not ready to point fingers

But in that same respect they prolly are too lazy to research black heritage rather than just make another white character

 

[Varient]

I'd like to say a few things on the subject of Muhammad X.

First, his idea, if the people who made him cared enough, could have made him into a real good and inspiring character. There is enough unexplored territory in black communities that could be used for back drop, but DC, unlike Marvel, refuses to deeply explore any solid African-American heritage to make a character out of it.

Second, due to the fact that he was probably made with the sole purpose of pasifying us "angry blacks", the creators haven't given him a second thought. He was made to make Superman look good, and though this fact urks me to the bone as more shrouded racism in comics, it is the truth behind Muhammad X.

Third, I hope he comes back, but the only way for that to happen is to have people write in and ask for him because the truth is that the white DC comic book creators don't want a powerful and inspiring brotha like X gaining fame unless it is absolutely necessary. Then there is always the off chance that he makes to the main stream, most people reading comics aren't of African-American heritage like me, and there for his supporting fans will only get him enough comics for him to suddenly die in. It is the way of America, and until we as a people do something about it, it will always be that way.

Back on topic, yeah, I too would like to see Muhammad X back in action. Goin head to head with famious villains, and showing the world that black people do matter.

(P.S. I'm roleplaying as him in one of the DC RPGs, trying to bring him out into the world in my own little way.)

Props.
I think he would be a strong addition to the DC Universe Between (My opinion ) Geo-Force and Superman. I remain amazed that someone as powerful as displayed would not have been in the last dust up,... He could've flattened supes prime long enough for the rest of the JSA to dog pile on.

I guess he's too hard to write.

 

[Anubis]

Or it's more likely nobody even knows who the f**k he is. Add in the silver age redux climate of the DCU where stuff that went down in the 90's are being pushed to the back ground if not completely ignored, and you have you're reason why he isn't around.

Besides, two of the most powerful beings in the DCU are black, that's good enough for me at the moment.

 

[fifthfiend]

I miss the Milestoneverse.

 

[RockSP]

I miss the Milestoneverse.

Thank DC for that.

 

[WompuM]

RockSP got a link for where your sig comes from?

 

[RockSP]

RockSP got a link for where your sig comes from?

Yep. Read at your own risk...you may be sacrificing a few braincells (you have been warned).

 

[Aristotle]

First, his idea, if the people who made him cared enough, could have made him into a real good and inspiring character.

He is a good and inspiring character.

Second, due to the fact that he was probably made with the sole purpose of pasifying us "angry blacks", the creators haven't given him a second thought. He was made to make Superman look good, and though this fact urks me to the bone as more shrouded racism in comics, it is the truth behind Muhammad X.

I think you're misreading that last panel. I think he makes Superman look bad. I think he makes every other character in that book, black and white, look bad. He makes the white characters look willfully ignorant, and he makes Natasha (and almost John Henry Irons, by extension) look kinda...man, I don't wanna say Uncle-Tommish, but it's kinda like that.

I think it's possible to see him come back. I can see McDuffie, Johns, Priest, or Winick doing a good job with him, just off the top of my head. Wait, what the **** am I thinking, Isabella would do a great job too, but he should be writing a Black Lightning book too.

 

[Aristotle]

Or it's more likely nobody even knows who the f**k he is.

No. Geoff Johns co-created him. Geoff Johns is a continuity-god in the sense that he knows everything that has ever happened (or unhappened) in the DCU. He surely remembers his own character creations. That's the most puzzling thing to me about MX not showing in the big Infinite Crisis brawl. Not to mention those other black heroes Natasha mentions. It's not enough to rehash Amazing Man, Geoff. It's not enough to put John Henry in charge of Infinity Inc. and put John Stewart on the JLA, DC. Bring back these dudes you hinted at.

Add in the silver age redux climate of the DCU where stuff that went down in the 90's are being pushed to the back ground if not completely ignored, and you have you're reason why he isn't around.

See, it isn't just Silver Age redux. It's just "redux of things we haven't done in awhile." Infinity, Inc., for example, isn't really Silver Age at all. The whole "a million Titans books" isn't Silver Age. Amazing Man isn't Silver Age. Kingdom Come isn't Silver Age. Monarch isn't Silver Age. Even a lot of this Kirby-worship is Bronze Age more than it's Silver Age.

Besides, two of the most powerful beings in the DCU are black, that's good enough for me at the moment.

Fair enough. I just think DC could be doing more with black characters. At least they're not exterminating them (Goliath in Civil War) or stereotyping them (Luke Cage in Civil War) like Marvel is.

 

[RockSP]

Fair enough. I just think DC could be doing more with black characters. At least they're not exterminating them (Goliath in Civil War) or stereotyping them (Luke Cage in Civil War) like Marvel is.

Yeah, they could. Especially with the ones that aren't replacements of other characters. Unfortunately, a lot of fan boys hate new characters for some reason...

 

[fifthfiend]

No. Geoff Johns co-created him. Geoff Johns is a continuity-god in the sense that he knows everything that has ever happened (or unhappened) in the DCU. He surely remembers his own character creations. That's the most puzzling thing to me about MX not showing in the big Infinite Crisis brawl. Not to mention those other black heroes Natasha mentions. It's not enough to rehash Amazing Man, Geoff. It's not enough to put John Henry in charge of Infinity Inc. and put John Stewart on the JLA, DC. Bring back these dudes you hinted at.

Come on, it wouldn't be proper tokenism if you started allowing more than one of them at a time.

 

[Varient]

Come on, it wouldn't be proper tokenism if you started allowing more than one of them at a time.

Sarcasm Noted.

 

[Varient]

While on the Official I hate lois Lane thread, (Known to everyone else as Lois Lane Becuase thread), I realized that we have a "Lois Lane" for Muhammad X,...

Melba Manton:

I have ideas.

Model the current Melba after Melba Moore in her prime:

Don't change her tude,... but let her like and try to get up under MX.

MX can show an interest, but I'd have him too busy to pay her too much attention.

Let their relationship be along the lines of both wanting the other but neither wanting to show any sort of weakness.

Melba would cover a beat in the black community,... At the interface between it and American society, touching on the turbulence where Harlem met uptown NewYork for example.

MX would be a mystery for her because he wouldn't meet any of her notions of how a black man is.

You could have her knowing and Dating John Henry Irons in the begining and not getting along with his niece because the girl would believe "Uncle John" could do better.


Lots and lots of ideas,..

V.

 

[WompuM]

...this thread again. argh.

 

[Varient]

Ahhh yeah,.. DC needs to get up off this gold mine and reintroduce MX.

 

[WompuM]

yeah, because not having MX is their problem right now.

 

[Varient]

yeah, because not having MX is their problem right now.

I'm going to say it:

An MX mini series would HAVE to be better than some of the unresolved crap happening in the DC universe.

1. On again / Off again Mary Marvel? What is up with that?(WIUWT)

2. Dead / Alive Able to fool Batman Spoiler? WIUWT?

3. Metamorpho having to consume himself to breathe in space? WIUWT?

4. Martian Manhunter killed so easily? WIUWT?

5. Wally "Married with Children" West with Out of character wife and rug rats who will be dealing with teen issues in the next two ISSUES? WIUWT?

6. Aquaman PERIOD. WIUWT?

7. Yet another "Crisis" MEH. WIUWT?


I'm saying an MX Mini would be a breath of fresh air to a lot of folk.

V.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Actually, the Flash's comic has improved considerably since Peyer took over. And Batman said he suspected Spoiler was still alive. And I don't think I'd be anymore interested in an MX mini because the DC universe is thoroughly ****ed up right now...