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British Medical College: Kill Disabled Babies.

Ok, I'm going to play the Devil's advocate for a second here, and say that, in a broad species affecting way, this is a good idea. (Mind you, I'm only speaking scientifically here, I agree with all of you personally.)

With modern medicine working the way it does, human evolution has ceased. There is no natural selection if all humans, regardless of genetic defects, survives long enough to breed, thus passing down inferior genes. There's no 'survival of the fittest' anymore with humans, and the species is standing still in the genetic sense, while diseases (and other organisms) continue to up the ante in the biological arms race. In this way, the human race is getting weaker by not moving forward, and the more and more technological advances there are, the less and less humanity needs to change biologically to survive the harsh environs of planet Earth, and the more dependent on outside sources the species becomes.

That's probably the theory behind this idea. It's heartless, but in a way, it's true.
 
SuperFerret said:
Ok, I'm going to play the Devil's advocate for a second here, and say that, in a broad species affecting way, this is a good idea. (Mind you, I'm only speaking scientifically here, I agree with all of you personally.)

With modern medicine working the way it does, human evolution has ceased. There is no natural selection if all humans, regardless of genetic defects, survives long enough to breed, thus passing down inferior genes. There's no 'survival of the fittest' anymore with humans, and the species is standing still in the genetic sense, while diseases (and other organisms) continue to up the ante in the biological arms race. In this way, the human race is getting weaker by not moving forward, and the more and more technological advances there are, the less and less humanity needs to change biologically to survive the harsh environs of planet Earth, and the more dependent on outside sources the species becomes.

That's probably the theory behind this idea. It's heartless, but in a way, it's true.

True fact. People are living too damn long. The good, the bad and the ugly. And the article does say severe. Regardless, it will always be up to the parents. No law can brush them aside on a matter like this.
 
I do see some sense in this. But it's still ethically wrong, which is why this will not happen.
 
This is horrible. I can't believe more people aren't coming out against this. I expect the Pope to condemn this soon.
 
Dew k. Mosi said:
This disgusts me. My son was born severely disabled and had he survived there is no way I would have considered him unviable or a crippling to my family. Jordan would have been loved and cared for as any other child in my family. This is barbarism and elitist genocide. Jordan lived 3 and a 1/2 days and never once did I wish his death.

I couldn't have said it better. Bravo!

And i'm very, very sorry to hear about your son. Nothing can prepare a person for something like that.
 
I think I mentioned a few times that using embryoes for research would in turn create a slippery slope where authorities would slowly start to expand to include the born, but disabled and on up until only the most powerful and elitest wouldn't be considered resources of the state to be used at will.

Nice to know I'm correct, thank you.
 
SuperFerret said:
Ok, I'm going to play the Devil's advocate for a second here, and say that, in a broad species affecting way, this is a good idea. (Mind you, I'm only speaking scientifically here, I agree with all of you personally.)

With modern medicine working the way it does, human evolution has ceased. There is no natural selection if all humans, regardless of genetic defects, survives long enough to breed, thus passing down inferior genes. There's no 'survival of the fittest' anymore with humans, and the species is standing still in the genetic sense, while diseases (and other organisms) continue to up the ante in the biological arms race. In this way, the human race is getting weaker by not moving forward, and the more and more technological advances there are, the less and less humanity needs to change biologically to survive the harsh environs of planet Earth, and the more dependent on outside sources the species becomes.

That's probably the theory behind this idea. It's heartless, but in a way, it's true.

This is basically abortion. I pretty much agree with you, but at the same time, who has the right to say any life is worth less then another unless it's your own? Now, I'm a firm supporter of letting a woman do whatever the hell she wants with her body, but for some reason this feels different. These people are granted rights unlike the embryos of unborn children. What can I say? I'm a stickler for the law.
 
This must be one of the 7 signs of apocolypse.
 
War Lord said:
I think I mentioned a few times that using embryoes for research would in turn create a slippery slope where authorities would slowly start to expand to include the born, but disabled and on up until only the most powerful and elitest wouldn't be considered resources of the state to be used at will.

Nice to know I'm correct, thank you.
Yeah, you're right. This is all the fault of embryonic stem cell research.:whatever:
 
SuperFerret said:
Ok, I'm going to play the Devil's advocate for a second here, and say that, in a broad species affecting way, this is a good idea. (Mind you, I'm only speaking scientifically here, I agree with all of you personally.)

With modern medicine working the way it does, human evolution has ceased. There is no natural selection if all humans, regardless of genetic defects, survives long enough to breed, thus passing down inferior genes. There's no 'survival of the fittest' anymore with humans, and the species is standing still in the genetic sense, while diseases (and other organisms) continue to up the ante in the biological arms race. In this way, the human race is getting weaker by not moving forward, and the more and more technological advances there are, the less and less humanity needs to change biologically to survive the harsh environs of planet Earth, and the more dependent on outside sources the species becomes.

That's probably the theory behind this idea. It's heartless, but in a way, it's true.
:up: Sounds fair to me.
 
Tuck&Benny said:
Yeah, you're right. This is all the fault of embryonic stem cell research.:whatever:

It has to do with how we've defined humanity. If humanity is defined as just a tool or resource of the state, then it doesn't matter how we treat our fellow human beings and we can use the less able however we wish, including embryoes.

However, if humanity is defined as something sacred and untouchable, than we couldn't have used the embryoes for our benefit.

So, in a way, you are correct.
 
This only shows that even the most educated professionals have the capacity of being infinitely stupid.
 
War Lord said:
It has to do with how we've defined humanity. If humanity is defined as just a tool or resource of the state, then it doesn't matter how we treat our fellow human beings and we can use the less able however we wish, including embryoes.

However, if humanity is defined as something sacred and untouchable, than we couldn't have used the embryoes for our benefit.

So, in a way, you are correct.
You must be confused. Embryos are not less able human beings. They're embryos.
 
Tuck&Benny said:
You must be confused. Embryos are not less able human beings. They're embryos.

Thanks for proving my point. :up:
 
Morg said:
*walks in* *blinks*

Oh vey! and I would imagine they would think someone like Stephen Hawking is worthless or someone like me? :down
Stephen Hawkings has ALS (Lou Gherigs disease), which he developed around 20. So you born deaf then? That doesn't stop you from living. But when the most you can hope for is to not die, what's the point?
 
lars573 said:
Stephen Hawkings has ALS (Lou Gherigs disease), which he developed around 20. So you born deaf then? That doesn't stop you from living. But when the most you can hope for is to not die, what's the point?
Exactly. So you can live for however few years you might have in a coma? People act as if these guys are gonna be waxing blind kids.
 
scandalous- i have a disabled cousin she feels just like the rest of us
 
does this mean they're going to kill JAL? :(
 
Barbaric........ Humans are now disposable. :cmad: :csad:
 
Morg said:
*walks in* *blinks*

Oh vey! and I would imagine they would think someone like Stephen Hawking is worthless or someone like me? :down
Stephen Hawking wasn't born disabled. He developed a motor neuron disease in college which progessed rapidly leaving him the way he is now. Remarkably, he has survived much longer than anybody ever thought he would.
 

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