Brosnan's Fifth

[Kevin Roegele]

I guess we should consider ourselves lucky that that never happened.

I'm thanking my lucky stars, mate.

 

[Everyman]

P..S. I don't think DAD was career suicide. As The Matador is his best work as of today and all the previous Bonds ended on a bad note, save Lazenby, what with Connery on DAF, Moore on AVTAK and Dalton on LTK....it is kind of a tradition now.

I said more "acing suicide", as it was certainly the suicide of his tenure as 007. Yes, all Bond left on a bad note, even Lazenby, who was the least convincing element of OHMSS.

 

[Everyman]

I see two opposing points;

1. Brosnan went out at the height of his popularity. An awful lot of people paid to see Brosnan in Die Another Day, as with all his movies. In terms of popular and successful movies, Brosnan scored 4/4, 100%. He went out when he was still (just about) young enough to be believable, unlike Connery and Moore.

2. Brosnan, who from the start of his reign, tried to bring more humanity to Bond and add depth with every film......finished his tenure with Die Another Day, the most immature, cartoon-ish and 2D episode of the entire series. Imagine if Michael Keaton had stayed with the Batman series and ended with Batman & Robin. It's that kind of come down, like a 1000ft drop.

Agreed on all counts.

 

[Bishop2]

I wouldn't go around telling people you like DAD. The Fleming fans will castrate you, then sacrifice you to a Daniel Craig voodoo doll. But I really enjoyed the first 15/20 minutes of DAD. Interesting plot, great action, Bond gets captured, tortured and rescued. He pulls a Dalton and looks for revenge....THEN the film falls apart and it all goes downhill.

I wish they had done Bond's capture more believably. The problem is that we all expect Bond to have a parachute in his backpack and just jump right off that cliff. That's what the movie Bond would do. Instead, he stops and stares and gets caught. This isn't the Bond we know at all. They should've had him get knocked out of the hovercraft and then quickly butted in the head with a rifle or something - something that would be believable for the character.

 

[Gold Samurai]

Brosnan in prime 007 age (maybe even slightly too young looking).

he would have made a good rocketeer IMO..................and having dalton and brosnan duke it out on a zeppelin would have been awesome

 

[DACrowe]

After watching Casino Royale it is nice to see what will probably be the first great Bond movie since Goldeneye. And for the record, I still hold TWINE in HIGH regard. But oy, the trailer alone just highlights the flaws of TND and DAD more so.

However, I would not say that Craig is the best Bond or better than Brosnan as the bandwagon on the main forum does. In fact he seems still to be lacking in wit but makes up for in grit. We'll see though.

 

[Batman Beyond]

Agreed. I feel, even if CR is a good Bond film, and better than DAD and TND, Craig himself ain't better than Brosnan, and I prefer TWINE and GE to CR. Call me crazy, but I like DAD too. The first half is brilliant and has a certain neo-Fleming feeling to it. I like it a lot.

I wish that Brosnan did another one and went out with a credible, down-to-Earth storyline like TWINE. Like someone else said around here, he could've done another one in 2005, then CR could've happened in 2007 - instead, now they won't have the priceless opportunity to show a Bond film in 2007 - THE year for a Bond release. But anyway...

If anything, Brosnan did a "fifth" Bond portrayal in the EON game... Has anyone played it?

 

[Fried Gold]

If anything, Brosnan did a "fifth" Bond portrayal in the EON game... Has anyone played it?

Everything or Nothing? Yeah, it's pretty good, actually. It's no Goldeneye, though.

 

[Batman Beyond]

I don't get you. I like TWINE more. Is it TWINE?

Seriously, what do you all think of "The World is Not Enough"? I think its Brosnan's best, and one of the best Bond films of all time. Its certainly on my top five...

 

[Bishop2]

I don't get you. I like TWINE more. Is it TWINE?

Seriously, what do you all think of "The World is Not Enough"? I think its Brosnan's best, and one of the best Bond films of all time. Its certainly on my top five...

I think it's easily his best behind GoldenEye, and I'm definitely fond of it. It has two weak points for me that hurt the movie somewhat, though: The ultimate way in which the villian is killed is completely lame and nonsensical, and the presence of Denise Richards, who always sucks. Still, she's better than a lot of other Bond girls over the years, and she's not so terrible that she drags things down too badly. I just wish Renard's defeat had been handled better. Otherwise it's a really cool movie in lots of ways.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Pierce could always do a non-official version in 2007 or 2008 like Connery did in 83 with Never Say Never Again...
I would bet it would outgross not only Casino Royale but any movie that Craig will do after that...

 

[Batman Beyond]

Thing is, Kevin McClory, the man behind NSNA and all that TB fiasco business, died recently. Are you still expecting him to do something like that?

Still, I'd love an unofficial Bond with Brosnan, AND with Tarantino as the director. That would be mighty cool....

 

[Batman Beyond]

And TWINE is close to perfect Bond. In fact, were it not for Denise Richards and some other elements, it'd be right there with OHMSS. Right now, there are some unecessary action scenes that are there just for the sake of it. Richards still doesn't bother as much as it does to other people, though. And the villain of the film always seemed to me to be Electra, not Renard. Renard was just a glorified henchman. So his death didn't bother me, as well.

Still, its Brosnan's best performance as Bond. I stand by that.

 

[Mr Jide]

Well I wish there was a fifth one in 2004 (as they skipped that year) while they were checking for a new Bond for a Casino Royale in 2007 (how STUPID is it to not have a 007 movie come out in 2007. And if they had another year, maybe they would've found someone better than Craig).

Well, a bond movie being released in 2007 would serve only as a factorising marketng tool which in turn would just scream, "look at me". At the end of the day, its to generate awareness and money. Bond doesn't need much awareness and secondly, CR did better financially and critically than expected. As for finding a better actor to play Bond, maybe but right now many fans and of course the producers dont give a sh-t. Craig delivered. Pesonally, releasing this movie 2 months before 2007 makes no difference, the results would have likely been the same anyway so why wait?

Too bad though.

Indeed but who's losing sleep, coz I sure aint.

 

[Mr Jide]

Still, I'd love an unofficial Bond with Brosnan, AND with Tarantino as the director. That would be mighty cool....

Personally, I'd hate that with a passion. Brosnan is no Connery. Hell, people would see Connery as he is now rprise his role as Bond again in an unofficial movie but Brosnan? Nah.

 

[Mr Jide]

And TWINE is close to perfect Bond. In fact, were it not for Denise Richards and some other elements, it'd be right there with OHMSS. Right now, there are some unecessary action scenes that are there just for the sake of it. Richards still doesn't bother as much as it does to other people, though. And the villain of the film always seemed to me to be Electra, not Renard. Renard was just a glorified henchman. So his death didn't bother me, as well.

Still, its Brosnan's best performance as Bond. I stand by that.

I agree with most of this.

 

[Batman Beyond]

Personally, I'd hate that with a passion. Brosnan is no Connery. Hell, people would see Connery as he is now rprise his role as Bond again in an unofficial movie but Brosnan? Nah.

Well, it'd be a Bond film, made by Tarantino! I would just love this kind of combination. I really hope something turns out some day.

And I think it would make money, but only when the intent of the film is not to compete with EON as McClory did with his NSNA. I mean, Brosnan is the second best Bond, next to Connery. He's a generational Bond, no doubt. So why not?

I like CR, I may not like Craig, but he was ok in it. No big probs, other than the whole Brosnan fiasco busines that put me off the Bond series for awhile.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Thing is, Kevin McClory, the man behind NSNA and all that TB fiasco business, died recently. Are you still expecting him to do something like that?

Still, I'd love an unofficial Bond with Brosnan, AND with Tarantino as the director. That would be mighty cool....

There won't be any more unofficial Bond films because MGM now own the rights to everything.

 

[Batman Beyond]

Thats good, but then... I would've really loved to have seen a Tarantino/Brosnan Bond. It would've rocked! Think of the possibilities.....

 

[Darkmania]

It is too bad that Pierce never get one last Bond with more focus on character depth than on extraordinary gadgets.

If Brosnan did do a fifth though, I would write it with either Bond dying at the end, or getting married again and leaving his job...then follow it up with the prequel and some more Craig films..

PS. the idea of actually having a Bond movie in 2007 would have been genious....oh well....

 

[Rizor]

I was watching DAD yesterday and the Moonraker comparisons seemed pretty strong. Both are films which take Bond to ridiculous new heights and silliness and they even cribbed the original Moonraker book for DAD. After Moonraker, we got For Your Eyes Only, a film which tried to bring Bond back to Earth. It's clear that after DAD, the filmmakers realized the need to ground Bond and make him more serious (as as you can see, they did). So if Brosnan came back, I'm sure we would've gotten a more serious Bond flick. Smaller in scale and a little darker.