Bryan Fuller to remake The Munsters for NBC

lol....good points.

I guess I am a bit different. I don't judge a show based off its irregularities in comparison to other shows. I just judge if I want to watch and if I will be entertained. For instance, I was against watching The Walking Dead because I wasn't sure if I would like to enjoy a show about zombies. I have read the comics and I was cool on that, but after watching the show I really enjoyed it and wanted to watch it.

Sometimes I feel people are bit too high brow over TV shows and forget the main essence is enjoyment. It doesn't need to distinguish itself from every other show...I just need to be entertained by a good show. Sometimes all the high brow drama and comedies lose the basic essence of being enjoyable for all

IMO...the basics are lost. IMO.... :yay:
Well of course I want to enjoy a show. And hell, the reason I love those shows as much as I do is because I DO find them so enjoyable. To stay on topic, Bryan Fuller, for example, is a very funny writer. ALL of his shows are quite comedic. They just have a little "something" extra that makes them more than what they seem on the surface.

When I'm talking about niche shows, I'm really not talking about high brow dramas. I didn't mention Breaking Bad (even though that one could certainly qualify) or Mad Men. Not a single of the shows I mentioned in my previous post were straight dramas.

Some people (read: the majority of Americans) just want their TV shows to be good background noise. To be able to sit and chit-chat with friends while something entertaining happens on the screen to fill the gaps in conversation. Or while they're on the computer. Or making dinner. They want to be able to go out and miss an episode, and still be able to catch the one after it without missing a beat. Others like to be able sit down and give a show their full, undivided attention, and get lost in another world the same way they do in a movie theater. For the latter, the niche shows tend to be better, as they not only demand, but also REWARD those who pay attention, in ways the background noise crowd doesn't even know they're missing.

Bryan Fuller, Joss Whedon and the creators of those other shows have inspired the kind of passionate loyalty in their fanbases that they have because they create genuinely rewarding shows for people who are actually willing to sit down and give the shows their time. But in our contemporary society of instant-gratification, that's a lot to ask. And I can assure you, no basics are lost in their writing. There's just all this other stuff surrounding them that makes it look "weird" to general audiences ("creative" to others), so most never even give them a chance.
 
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Well of course I want to enjoy a show. And hell, the reason I love those shows as much as I do is because I DO find them so enjoyable. To stay on topic, Bryan Fuller, for example, is a very funny writer. ALL of his shows are quite comedic. They just have a little "something" extra that makes them more than what they seem on the surface.

When I'm talking about niche shows, I'm really not talking about high brow dramas. I didn't mention Breaking Bad (even though that one could certainly qualify) or Mad Men. Not a single of the shows I mentioned in my previous post were straight dramas.

Some people (read: the majority of Americans) just want their TV shows to be good background noise. To be able to sit and chit-chat with friends while something entertaining happens on the screen to fill the gaps in conversation. Or while they're on the computer. Or making dinner. They want to be able to go out and miss an episode, and still be able to catch the one after it without missing a beat. Others like to be able sit down and give a show their full, undivided attention, and get lost in another world the same way they do in a movie theater. For the latter, the niche shows tend to be better, as they not only demand, but also REWARD those who pay attention, in ways the background noise crowd doesn't even know they're missing.

Bryan Fuller, Joss Whedon and the creators of those other shows have inspired the kind of passionate loyalty in their fanbases that they have because they create genuinely rewarding shows for people who are actually willing to sit down and give the shows their time. But in our contemporary society of instant-gratification, that's a lot to ask. And I can assure you, no basics are lost in their writing. There's just all this other stuff surrounding them that makes it look "weird" to general audiences ("creative" to others), so most never even give them a chance.

See I don't believe that. My parents....who are not high brow, watch all NCIS shows intently. They don't go to the bathroom or attempt to leave the room until a commercial. They hurry to get back to the drama and for them the DVR was the best thing in the world because they can actually pause the show. It's not background noise to them and they listen intently to the show when it's playing...so much so that it's on a high level of volume so they can hear.

Again, I feel like those who are a bit too high brow look down on those shows and people who watch those shows like they are somehow missing out on the greatness of these niche shows....but in truth they are not.

The point of any network show should be entertainment. My point is let's look at entertainment as something that should be enjoyed by all and not just a select few.... who get it.

IMO, those who feel like they have some sort of insight into a show that really isn't there feel like those who don't see it are missing something because they crave instant gratitfication...and it's not that at all. The truth is those shows are only funny to a few people or those who "get it". Again, let's not forget this is entertainment, which should be available to the masses.

I don't mention shows like Breaking Bad (I don't watch that show) or MM (which I do watch) because you have to pay for those shows on cable. They aren't readily available for the masses. Network entertainment should be readily available for the masses.

That's my point.

So to get back on topic...why do you feel Fuller's new Munsters show would be worthwhile for a network?
 
See I don't believe that. My parents....who are not high brow, watch all NCIS shows intently. They don't go to the bathroom or attempt to leave the room until a commercial. They hurry to get back to the drama and for them the DVR was the best thing in the world because they can actually pause the show. It's not background noise to them and they listen intently to the show when it's playing...so much so that it's on a high level of volume so they can hear.

Again, I feel like those who are a bit too high brow look down on those shows and people who watch those shows like they are somehow missing out on the greatness of these niche shows....but in truth they are not.
How do they know, if they never gave them a shot? Just because they aren't interested in the greatness of those shows doesn't mean it doesn't exist. They aren't just "niche," they are widely acclaimed by critics and pretty much everyone who gave them a serious look. Dismissing them as "niche" is just as, well, dismissive as those "high brows" who look down on the mainstreamers. It goes both ways.

The point of any network show should be entertainment. My point is let's look at entertainment as something that should be enjoyed by all and not just a select few.... who get it.

IMO, those who feel like they have some sort of insight into a show that really isn't there feel like those who don't see it are missing something because they crave instant gratitfication...and it's not that at all. The truth is those shows are only funny to a few people or those who "get it". Again, let's not forget this is entertainment, which should be available to the masses.

I don't mention shows like Breaking Bad (I don't watch that show) or MM (which I do watch) because you have to pay for those shows on cable. They aren't readily available for the masses. Network entertainment should be readily available for the masses.

That's my point.

So to get back on topic...why do you feel Fuller's new Munsters show would be worthwhile for a network?
I don't feel like ANY entertainment should be made just to appeal to the masses. After all, it's not just entertainment, it's art. Some of this stuff is literally just a commercial product, but a lot of it is personal expression. It's storytelling. TV is just about the only place where people who want to tell long-form audio-visual stories can go. And I feel the more personal a show is, the more niche its audience will be, because something can't be extremely personal and extremely broad at the same time. That's just not possible. I love the personal shows because someone is telling a story they put their heart and soul into, rather than trying to simply create something that will go over well with most people.

And why do I think Fuller's new show will be worthwhile? Because EVERY Fuller show is worthwhile, which most who actually gave them a chance already know.

I absolutely HATE the idea of the worth of a TV show being determined by how it will play with "the masses." I just saw Seven Psychopaths today and while it would not play well with the masses, it was still brilliantly written and acted, and hella entertaining. But there are plenty of people who would find the gore offensive, the language offensive, and the off-beat humor just plain off-putting, so it will never be a hit. That doesn't diminish its worth in any way.

And I also hate the notion that the divide between the niche shows and mainstream shows is "entertainment." ALL the shows we are discussing are entertaining. There's just simple, surface entertainment, and then there's entertainment with a little more to offer. The entertainment with more to offer usually gets less of an audience because it requires more from them (an open-mind for one) in order to get to it.

And for the record, my parents watch NCIS too. But they probably couldn't tell me what happened in the season premiere, because to them, it's just something to watch. They enjoy it, but they aren't really invested in it.
 
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It could be hard to gauge if it is worth ordering to series because

CBS will be airing a NCIS rerun
Fox will debut a new season of Kitchen Nightmares
ABC will have Shark Tank
The CW will have ... it doesn't matter its The CW on Fridays, America's Next Top Model is a blip now.

CBS and ABC may have more viewers but Mockingbird Lane could actually win the demo for the timeslot. Grimm wins its timeslot in the demo which is what the networks want, the show with the best demo.
 
The Munsters was no classic, but what the hell is the point in redoing it and making them all look normal? Marilyn feels totally pointless now.
 
The fact that she's not a monster? :o
 
He created Dead Like Me, Pushing Daisies & Wonderfalls. He left DLM during the first season and that show went downhill fast, but PD and WF were both perfection, imo. The cleverness in the writing was almost too much to take in on one sitting. He also wrote the one truly great episode the show Heroes ever had (right before he left it to create Pushing Daisies), along with a brilliant animated pilot for The Amazing Screw-On Head that was, of course, way too "out there" to ever be picked up.

The guy is, for my money, the most ingenious TV writer working, and he gets screwed over even more than Joss Whedon. I can only imagine that's why he's agreed to working on two "established brands" this TV season rather than trying to get his own creations off the ground anymore.

Pushing Daisies was a favorite of mine during it's run.
 
Not really feeling anything from those previews.I'll give it a shot since I'm a fan of the original series,but I don't like what I see so far.
 
How do they know, if they never gave them a shot? Just because they aren't interested in the greatness of those shows doesn't mean it doesn't exist. They aren't just "niche," they are widely acclaimed by critics and pretty much everyone who gave them a serious look. Dismissing them as "niche" is just as, well, dismissive as those "high brows" who look down on the mainstreamers. It goes both ways.

I agree with this, but I guess my point is in trying to appease the masses then you have to look at things from a mass appeal. Critics can be a very singular set. I mean, let's look at the Oscars. They seemingly deplore movies which are blockbusters, but favor movies that are not widely seen. Why is that?

I guess my point is we have to come to a point between what the masses want and what only a few understand or want. Another question, is there an ability to have both?

I don't feel like ANY entertainment should be made just to appeal to the masses. After all, it's not just entertainment, it's art. Some of this stuff is literally just a commercial product, but a lot of it is personal expression. It's storytelling. TV is just about the only place where people who want to tell long-form audio-visual stories can go. And I feel the more personal a show is, the more niche its audience will be, because something can't be extremely personal and extremely broad at the same time. That's just not possible. I love the personal shows because someone is telling a story they put their heart and soul into, rather than trying to simply create something that will go over well with most people.

Flick...I love you (I really do)...you have put that down so succintly it's difficult for me to argue with that point. I guess I'm saying there has to be room in TV and movies for both, and the Munsters, being a remake should include both since it's remake. If they were going to make something original that is artful then why not do so? Why would these accredited and acclaimed TV makers choose to rehash a 60s TV show instead of making something original?

The claim they are trying to make something that is ART is lost when you are rehashing what has already been done. While I don't think we should have green munsters....how much ART can Fuller really inject into a story that a lot of people already have memories of because they grow up with those stories and these characters? How much originality can be had from that?

And why do I think Fuller's new show will be worthwhile? Because EVERY Fuller show is worthwhile, which most who actually gave them a chance already know.

I absolutely HATE the idea of the worth of a TV show being determined by how it will play with "the masses." I just saw Seven Psychopaths today and while it would not play well with the masses, it was still brilliantly written and acted, and hella entertaining. But there are plenty of people who would find the gore offensive, the language offensive, and the off-beat humor just plain off-putting, so it will never be a hit. That doesn't diminish its worth in any way.

And I also hate the notion that the divide between the niche shows and mainstream shows is "entertainment." ALL the shows we are discussing are entertaining. There's just simple, surface entertainment, and then there's entertainment with a little more to offer. The entertainment with more to offer usually gets less of an audience because it requires more from them (an open-mind for one) in order to get to it.

And for the record, my parents watch NCIS too. But they probably couldn't tell me what happened in the season premiere, because to them, it's just something to watch. They enjoy it, but they aren't really invested in it.

LOL...my parents could describe the show in exact detail...as they did for me when I was finally able to watch the show after I came back from an extended deployment.

While I agree with most of your points, I think it must be mentioned that entertainment doesn't or shouldn't be exclusive. EVERYONE should be able to enjoy it for different reasons. What I think you are missing is that when the vast majority cannot be entertained then they are excluded. Does that mean the show is not entertaining? No, it does not, but if you make a show that the vast majority cannot find entertaining then it's not entertaining for most and only includes a few who can be entertained...or a niche...which do understand it. Again, my question is why can't shows be entertaining for everyone?

There seems to be a divide between shows and movies that are critically acclaimed and those that masses find entertaining. Entertainment is not and should not be limited to having a higher level of understanding or thought process. In the olden days, people who couldn't read or write were entertained by Shakepeare because even in the simplest aspect the story had some resonance in their own life.

IMO, entertainment should never be limited to a select few, or the imaginations of people who create that entertainment is stifled by the "high brows"....
 
You can't please everyone. The goal should be to make something that you yourself enjoy and can be proud of. If a studio and veiwing audience respond to it then that's great, if not, then go back to the drawing board and create a new concept. The only time the creater should change a concept is if they are comfortable with it.

If you are adapting something however, then you must show a certain amount of respect to the original source.
 
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So... just how different is this show suppose to be? I've never really seen Fuller's other work. But is Herman suppose to get more you know, monster-ish looking as time goes on or is he just gonna look like that?

Because it's just Jerry O'Connell with scars around his neck. And that looks pretty boring.
 
I agree with this, but I guess my point is in trying to appease the masses then you have to look at things from a mass appeal. Critics can be a very singular set. I mean, let's look at the Oscars. They seemingly deplore movies which are blockbusters, but favor movies that are not widely seen. Why is that?

I guess my point is we have to come to a point between what the masses want and what only a few understand or want. Another question, is there an ability to have both?
Well I'm not even gonna pretend to have a definitive answer to that question, lol. I personally don't think there is. Because these niche shows appeal to a great deal of people. Just because that great deal doesn't equal the majority doesn't mean their tastes don't matter.

The masses have plenty of shows to enjoy. Those who like their entertainment to be a little different than the norm should have shows to enjoy as well. All of my favorite creators are the people who create THOSE shows, and those are usually the ones never given a fair shot because they're different. Doesn't mean they're not awesome.


Flick...I love you (I really do)...you have put that down so succintly it's difficult for me to argue with that point.
Aw, you're not so bad yourself. :highfive:

I guess I'm saying there has to be room in TV and movies for both, and the Munsters, being a remake should include both since it's remake. If they were going to make something original that is artful then why not do so? Why would these accredited and acclaimed TV makers choose to rehash a 60s TV show instead of making something original?
It's a remake of an already weird show, though. I mean, if you took the original as is and aired it today, it would be dramatically different from the rest of the TV landscape. As such, I don't see why getting a guy with a crazy imagination to do the modern take on the concept is anything but a good way to go. You don't remake the Munsters to make a generically accessible show ala Two and a Half Men or NCIS. It's silly to expect such a thing with such a kooky concept, imo.

The claim they are trying to make something that is ART is lost when you are rehashing what has already been done. While I don't think we should have green munsters....how much ART can Fuller really inject into a story that a lot of people already have memories of because they grow up with those stories and these characters? How much originality can be had from that?
I think you'd be surprised. I'm a big fan of re-visionist takes on old concepts. A BIG fan. Brazil, one of my favorite movies of all-time, was basically pitched as Terry Gilliam's take on 1984. The Munsters has such a simple concept that you could basically take that as a starting point and do anything with it. I loved what we were hearing about the series potential when Fuller was talking about using this as a platform for bringing all of Universal's classic monsters into one world. But we'll likely never see that now. Oh well.

LOL...my parents could describe the show in exact detail...as they did for me when I was finally able to watch the show after I came back from an extended deployment.

While I agree with most of your points, I think it must be mentioned that entertainment doesn't or shouldn't be exclusive. EVERYONE should be able to enjoy it for different reasons. What I think you are missing is that when the vast majority cannot be entertained then they are excluded. Does that mean the show is not entertaining? No, it does not, but if you make a show that the vast majority cannot find entertaining then it's not entertaining for most and only includes a few who can be entertained...or a niche...which do understand it. Again, my question is why can't shows be entertaining for everyone?

There seems to be a divide between shows and movies that are critically acclaimed and those that masses find entertaining. Entertainment is not and should not be limited to having a higher level of understanding or thought process. In the olden days, people who couldn't read or write were entertained by Shakepeare because even in the simplest aspect the story had some resonance in their own life.

IMO, entertainment should never be limited to a select few, or the imaginations of people who create that entertainment is stifled by the "high brows"....
I believe ALL entertainment is exclusive to a point, simply because there's no one thing that everyone likes. Not one. Good comedy, good drama, good fantasy...all art is subjective. What I find funny and what my parents find funny are two VERY different things. And yes, there are certain things that more people like than others, but that does not diminish the worth of any of those things loved by the minority. Besides, the trends of the majority are ever-changing. Those niche shows are already far more "mainstream" than they were, say, 20 years ago thanks to the internet and TV on DVD/Blu-ray and all that.


Basically, I think the kind of "all-appealing" entertainment you're describing is ONE kind of entertainment - the same kind represented by the Transformers movies in multiplexes - and entertainment should NEVER be limited to just one type of appeal. There's obviously a place for that kind of entertainment, but I don't think all entertainment should be forced to be like that, either. I mean sure, the majority seem to love those movies, but there are still large hordes that kind of hate them, too. Obviously, these niche shows attract smaller but very devoted audiences, so there is and should be a place for them, too.


As for critics, I find that I respect their opinions more than the average viewer because unlike, say, my mom, critics have to watch everything there is. They've seen it all because they don't have a choice. It's their job. Therefore, they have more points of comparison. Nobody knows what's more run-of-the-mill or uninspired than a critic, because they've almost certainly seen the inspirations for everything they're watching. They know if something is ripping something else off, or if some other show does the same thing better, etc. I feel like if someone's seen just about everything the medium has to offer, when they single out something as the cream of the crop, I tend to believe 'em. I don't believe most of them are snobs, I just think they just get sick of watching garbage and understand their excitement when something extraordinary comes along.
 
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Well I'm not even gonna pretend to have a definitive answer to that question, lol. I personally don't think there is. Because these niche shows appeal to a great deal of people. Just because that great deal doesn't equal the majority doesn't mean their tastes don't matter. The masses have plenty of shows to enjoy. Those who like their entertainment to be a little different than the norm should have shows to enjoy as well. All of my favorite creators are the people who create THOSE shows, and those are usually the ones never given a fair shot because they're different. Doesn't mean they're not awesome.

No, it doesn't mean those shows are not awesome, but I what I don't like is that people who like those shows somehow feel those who don't like it are somehow stupid...or not paying attention to the finer points. My contention is that shows on network television should have mass appeal. That's what the network is designed for...mass appeal. Saying they should cater to a few doesn't seem right when for some the network is all they have available. If you want a niche show then pay for it. That's what cable is for.

Aw, you're not so bad yourself. :highfive:

Thanks...I think....lol. :woot:

It's a remake of an already weird show, though. I mean, if you took the original as is and aired it today, it would be dramatically different from the rest of the TV landscape. As such, I don't see why getting a guy with a crazy imagination to do the modern take on the concept is anything but a good way to go. You don't remake the Munsters to make a generically accessible show ala Two and a Half Men or NCIS. It's silly to expect such a thing with such a kooky concept, imo.

There is no modern take on The Munsters.

The Munsters was a kooky show based on a premise of 1950s living with monsters as the main characters. That concept is not really applicable in today's age. Saying that a kooky director could somehow make this premise appealing doesn't hold water. Seriously, how is that concept even applicable in today's society? I mean seriously, let's not put more on this show then is really available, which is what I feel fans of kooky producers and directors do when they try to justify their actions.

I think you'd be surprised. I'm a big fan of re-visionist takes on old concepts. A BIG fan. Brazil, one of my favorite movies of all-time, was basically pitched as Terry Gilliam's take on 1984. The Munsters has such a simple concept that you could basically take that as a starting point and do anything with it. I loved what we were hearing about the series potential when Fuller was talking about using this as a platform for bringing all of Universal's classic monsters into one world. But we'll likely never see that now. Oh well.

But....you can't take that premise and do anything with it! It's not really designed for that. I just don't see it. Aside from shows like Star Trek which had the ability to reinvent itself in a new era. IMO, a new take on the Munsters wouldn't have worked under anyone...kooky or not. It would inevitably be like all the other shows from the 50s and 60s which folks have tried to re-introduce that didn't work because the premise is based from a time that is lost in today's age. Seriously, there is a better chance an All in the Family remake would work better then the Munsters, the Addams Family, Bewtiched, or I Dream of Jeannie. And again, what audience are you really aiming at if you attempt to re-invent an old show? Are you aiming for folks who have never seen it or the the audience who remembers it?

I believe ALL entertainment is exclusive to a point, simply because there's no one thing that everyone likes. Not one. Good comedy, good drama, good fantasy...all art is subjective. What I find funny and what my parents find funny are two VERY different things. And yes, there are certain things that more people like than others, but that does not diminish the worth of any of those things loved by the minority. Besides, the trends of the majority are ever-changing. Those niche shows are already far more "mainstream" than they were, say, 20 years ago thanks to the internet and TV on DVD/Blu-ray and all that.

Again, I agree there is not one thing everyone likes and the internet has give a new home to old shows. That's a given, but why should a network show in today's age NOT attempt to appeal to all??? Again, network TV is meant to appeal to all. There's cable now. There is a home for the directors and producers you like...it's just not on network. I realized this with Firefly. I wondered immediately why the show wasn't on Syfy to begin with instead on a network like Fox. Although I loved/love that show. It wasn't a show that would have appealed to a network audience.

Basically, I think the kind of "all-appealing" entertainment you're describing is ONE kind of entertainment - the same kind represented by the Transformers movies in multiplexes - and entertainment should NEVER be limited to just one type of appeal. There's obviously a place for that kind of entertainment, but I don't think all entertainment should be forced to be like that, either. I mean sure, the majority seem to love those movies, but there are still large hordes that kind of hate them, too. Obviously, these niche shows attract smaller but very devoted audiences, so there is and should be a place for them, too.

There is a place. It's on cable where the niche audience can pay for that enjoyment.

As for critics, I find that I respect their opinions more than the average viewer because unlike, say, my mom, critics have to watch everything there is. They've seen it all because they don't have a choice. It's their job. Therefore, they have more points of comparison. Nobody knows what's more run-of-the-mill or uninspired than a critic, because they've almost certainly seen the inspirations for everything they're watching. They know if something is ripping something else off, or if some other show does the same thing better, etc. I feel like if someone's seen just about everything the medium has to offer, when they single out something as the cream of the crop, I tend to believe 'em. I don't believe most of them are snobs, I just think they just get sick of watching garbage and understand their excitement when something extraordinary comes along.


Here's the thing though. Critics are a dime a dozen and their opinions are meaningless if they refuse to recognize pure enjoyment when it is available, which they often do...because they've seen it before. Plus there are also critics like Ben Lyons who don't get respected at all because....lol....they don't. Again, let's not confuse mass enjoyment with anything other than mass enjoyment.

Again, what is wrong with the masses liking something? Transformers might not have been the The King's Speech, but it was just as enjoyable in its own way. Why can't the fact that HORDES enjoyed it make it a worthwhile movie? It was enjoyable for millions, but not so for a few critics. Again, another reason why I don't listen to critics when it comes to my enjoyment. I'd rather make up my own mind. I don't need a critic of any sort to tell me what I should or shouldn't watch! :word:
 
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No, it doesn't mean those shows are not awesome, but I what I don't like is that people who like those shows somehow feel those who don't like it are somehow stupid...or not paying attention to the finer points. My contention is that shows on network television should have mass appeal. That's what the network is designed for...mass appeal. Saying they should cater to a few doesn't seem right when for some the network is all they have available. If you want a niche show then pay for it. That's what cable is for.
I don't know why it's taken me so long to truly understand that your point is simply that the networks are free, and that's why they should only cater to the majority. If you're saying that the more creative shows belong on cable then I can certainly see your point. But I can't blame the creators of those shows for trying to get onto networks because they get bigger budgets and more exposure, and I'd say the more inventive, creative minds are the ones who deserve that exposure most, even though they're less safe bets commercially so I can see both sides.

Also, by keeping them off of networks entirely, you're not even giving them a shot with all those audiences who simply can't afford cable.

I personally think there should be plenty of room on network's schedules for all kinds of programming, broad-appealing AND heavily-serialized (aka niche) shows. They don't have to be evenly split, but put something on there for those with different taste from he majority.

Thanks...I think....lol. :woot:
Don't worry, that was 100% meant as a compliment. :yay:



There is no modern take on The Munsters.

The Munsters was a kooky show based on a premise of 1950s living with monsters as the main characters. That concept is not really applicable in today's age. Saying that a kooky director could somehow make this premise appealing doesn't hold water. Seriously, how is that concept even applicable in today's society? I mean seriously, let's not put more on this show then is really available, which is what I feel fans of kooky producers and directors do when they try to justify their actions.


But....you can't take that premise and do anything with it! It's not really designed for that. I just don't see it. Aside from shows like Star Trek which had the ability to reinvent itself in a new era. IMO, a new take on the Munsters wouldn't have worked under anyone...kooky or not. It would inevitably be like all the other shows from the 50s and 60s which folks have tried to re-introduce that didn't work because the premise is based from a time that is lost in today's age. Seriously, there is a better chance an All in the Family remake would work better then the Munsters, the Addams Family, Bewtiched, or I Dream of Jeannie. And again, what audience are you really aiming at if you attempt to re-invent an old show? Are you aiming for folks who have never seen it or the the audience who remembers it?
The same audience ANY reboot goes for. People who loved the original and are open to a new take. People who know the name but were too young to get anything out of the original. People who may be completely unfamiliar with the original but think the premise could be interesting. In other words, any viewers with an open mind and don't find the very idea of a remake to be sacrilege or stupid.

Again, I agree there is not one thing everyone likes and the internet has give a new home to old shows. That's a given, but why should a network show in today's age NOT attempt to appeal to all??? Again, network TV is meant to appeal to all. There's cable now. There is a home for the directors and producers you like...it's just not on network. I realized this with Firefly. I wondered immediately why the show wasn't on Syfy to begin with instead on a network like Fox. Although I loved/love that show. It wasn't a show that would have appealed to a network audience.

There is a place. It's on cable where the niche audience can pay for that enjoyment.
Again, I think the people who can't afford cable deserve a little variety in their entertainment too.


Here's the thing though. Critics are a dime a dozen and their opinions are meaningless if they refuse to recognize pure enjoyment when it is available, which they often do...because they've seen it before. Plus there are also critics like Ben Lyons who don't get respected at all because....lol....they don't. Again, let's not confuse mass enjoyment with anything other than mass enjoyment.

Again, what is wrong with the masses liking something? Transformers might not have been the The King's Speech, but it was just as enjoyable in its own way. Why can't the fact that HORDES enjoyed it make it a worthwhile movie? It was enjoyable for millions, but not so for a few critics. Again, another reason why I don't listen to critics when it comes to my enjoyment. I'd rather make up my own mind. I don't need a critic of any sort to tell me what I should or shouldn't watch! :word:
I certainly don't let a critic tell me what I should or shouldn't watch either, but I DO take their opinions into consideration. Critical acclaim is sometimes the only thing that brings a show to my attention in the first place. I NEVER would have checked out Breaking Bad if it didn't get so much acclaim (AMC's marketing didn't do much and the premise made it sound kinda like Weeds: The Drama), and man, words cannot describe how glad I am that I did. I find that critics are of the most use when they're championing great shows that no one's watching. That's how I've discovered almost ALL of my favorites, now that I think about it.
 
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NBC needs to start throwing a bit more promotion out there. This thing can only grab so much attention with two weeks notice, a single promo, and some word of mouth over Twitter.
 
NBC does not care about this. It will just have to be a sleeper hit.
 
If they didn't care they wouldn't be airing it at all. They at least mildly care.
 
I think it has more to do with money. They spent all this money on it, they are going to do something with it.
 
They need to get it out to TV critics/bloggers so they can hype it up or say there is potential for a series.
 
so for someone who hasnt been following the making, why do they all look human??
 
Because that's just the story that Fuller has crafted. In the story, when Eddie was born, he seemed to be normal, so his parents wanted to raise him in as normal and human of an environment as possible. Now that he's approaching puberty, his wolf has emerged.

Fuller's going for something with a bit more depth than camp.
 

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