Budget Question

[Catman]

In every thread someone says that "they can't do this because of the budget." I still don't understand how that can be possible? Has everyone already forgotten about Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman? A show that aired back in the early `90s when the technology wasn't as good as today and you had Superman doing. . .well. . .Superman stuff. So, why can't Smallville get all crazy like that? Are you saying that Lois & Clark had a higher budget. Even though it was always struggling in the ratings. Opposed to Smallville which is the networks biggest show.

 

[Catman]

But, you know what I mean. They've managed to pull off having Superman in a tv show many times before doing Superman stuff. So, what's with this "we can't do stuff cause we can't afford it" nonsense? They said Zod was too expensive yet I didn't really see Zod do anything that expensive. The man flew twice and his fight we Clark was really short.

 

[KalKai]

If you're talking about flight it's not the time, get over it. SV isn't doing "Superman stuff" ? And how dare you compare L&C's VFX to SV's? lol.

 

[Catman]

It's not just flying. There's x-ray vision, heat vision, super-breath, etc. Those are stuff he should be using very frequently. He doesn't seem to. His most frequent power on the show is super speed. They should use his other powers as frequent as that.

 

[KalKai]

Uh he's getting super-breath in the next ep, he uses x-ray vision in almost every ep, same with super-hearing, and he used his heat vision in Zod, so I dunno what you're talking about. What did those previous Superman TV shows do that SV didn't? What crazyness are you talking about?

Didn't you say you watch the show when it gets "interesting"? So how would you know?

 

[Catman]

Didn't you say you watch the show when it gets "interesting"? So how would you know?

Cause I've seen enough to know that super-strength and super-speed are his only frequent powers at this point. He doesn't use super hearing and x-ray vision in every episode. He sure didn't use them in Thursday episode.

 

[KalKai]

That's because there was no need to use them.

 

[Catman]

Even then they're not powers he uses in every episode. It's basically super-strength and super-speed. All the other powers are not very prominent of the show just yet.

 

[LostSon88]

I think you just want a straight up Superman show.

 

[KalKai]

lol, just don't try and compare SV to L&C or some other Superman show, they sure as hell didn't do what SV is doing.

 

[Catman]

lol, just don't try and compare SV to L&C or some other Superman show, they sure as hell didn't do what SV is doing.

Are you saying that Smallville has better production values? If so, then you're wrong. Smallville looks better cause its made in the 21st century. If Smallville would have been made 15 years ago its production values wouldn't have been that much different then lets say the Salkind's Superboy series.

 

[LostSon88]

I think he's saying that L&C and SV are two very different interpretations of the Superman character and should'nt be compared to one another. The premises of each series were very different.

L&C: A light-hearted, at times campy interpretation of the MOS.
SV: A modernized, mostly serious interpretation of Clark Kent before becoming the MOS.

That's like comparing the 60's Adam West Batman series to BTAS or something.

 

[KalKai]

If If.. you don't even watch every episode, and you're complaining because he doesn't use all of his superpowers in every episode, L&C did more Superman stuff than SV? I don't think so.

 

[LostSon88]

Wait what?! He's only a causal viewer? If that's true than this whole thread is pointless...I mean c'mon you can't just drop in every now and then and say, "Oh, that budget excuse is BS" when you don't even watch enough episodes to see how much visual effects they use PER EPISODE!

That'd be like watching a football team every now and then and saying, "Oh, they're not playing hard enough." LOL.

 

[Catman]

Like I said before I've seen enough to know. I've seen the majority of season 1 and 5. I've seen almost half of season 2, 3, 4. And, I've seen all the important episodes. So, yeah, I've seen enough to know what I'm talking about.

 

[AFan 2]

I have watched every episode of both Smallville and Lois and Clark and i agree with Catman.

Yes Smallville is vastly superior to Lois and Clark in the effects department and in its overall story. Yes back in the day Lois and Clarks effects were shody. However there have been leaps and bounds in the effects business.

We are seeing things in series that we used to see only in film, battle star galatica does brilliant fleet battles and Smallville does some really cool stuff. I am also sure they could if they wanted to do flying.

Look at the recent season 6 premier, Lex had just punched Clark into that field and flew up to him to then float down. Most of the flying sequence was a blur until they just had Rosemburg lowered down on a wire rig. So with clever editing they can make some stuff look good.

They could also just shoot a load of footage of Clark Flying at different angles and just re use the footage. Or they could do a few two parter episode, where not allot happens in the first half effect wise(i.e to save the budget) and then they could put all of the money from the two episode into the effects of the second. They could also just do a blur across the screen. Either way what Catman is saying is if they can do it then with the effects they have today they could if they wanted to find an affordable way to do so. After all Clark has jumped of Buildings, Jumped after rockets, Jumped in the fortress with Lana. I'm sure the process of doing tose shots is similar to doing Flight.

So yeah They could do flying they just drag it out. I do hope he learns to fly soon because i want to see him learn to use the power and actually use it a bit before the show ends. Its been 6 years so i don't know why they just don't give it to him the creators did say after all when the first started that he would eventually learn to fly.

I just don't want him to do it in the last ever episode and then go oh i shall now wear a costume.

 

[KalKai]

AFan 2 he isn't talking about flight, he's saying he should use ALL of his superpowers in EVERY episode no matter what the situation, just use them all, that's what he wants. I'm not sure on which part you're agreeing with him here.

Although yes when people say "they can't because of budget" they're referring to flight & nothing else.

He's also saying that SV doesn't do Superman stuff and doesn't go crazy like the previous Superman TV shows lol. Still waiting for an explanation on that 1.

 

[AFan 2]

AFan 2 he isn't talking about flight, he's saying he should use ALL of his superpowers in EVERY episode no matter what the situation, just use them all, that's what he wants. I'm not sure on which part you're agreeing with him here.

Although yes when people say "they can't because of budget" they're referring to flight & nothing else.

He's also saying that SV doesn't do Superman stuff and doesn't go crazy like the previous Superman TV shows lol. Still waiting for an explanation on that 1.

With the exception of superbreath and flight(powers he does not have...yet) i still see what he is going on about.

Clark for Example only uses Superspeed to get from A to B or to save people from danger. But you never see him use it to read or type or anything else. like in Lois and Clark, Clark used Superspeed all the time to tap in multiple compinations on key pads or write whole stories in seconds.

Also in Smallville how many time have people snuck up on Clark, loads the guy has super hearing and could hear a mouse fart in metroplois when he is still in Smallville.

That is what i mean by i get his point. However Smallville used to do cleaver things with his powers like when Clark made toast with his heat vision. Now he only uses his powers to be heroic.

 

[KalKai]

This Clark doesn't spend his time in an office writing articles, we've seen him doing it on his computer in the Pilot and that was enough. There are loads of things that this Clark does that L&C's Clark never did, so no I don't get his point.

 

[avidreader]

The speed typing always looked totally ridiculous in Lois & Clark. I'm so glad that they dont do that, and how often would Clark need to go that fast anyway.

Same with the speed reading. L & C Clark used to flick through the pages of a book but he never had the pages opened up all the way which made you wonder how much of the page he was actually reading.

 

[Catman]

This Clark doesn't spend his time in an office writing articles, we've seen him doing it on his computer in the Pilot and that was enough.

Are you sure about that? Think about it for a second. With everything thats going on in Clark's life do you think he has enough time to do homework, study, his work on the farm, etc. It would be good to see him use his super speed to quickly get some things done. Or how about shaving. Clark is like 19 already. The man should start growing some facial hair. I remember in the animated series from the `90s they showed Clark using his heat vision to shave. Why can't that be done here?

 

[KalKai]

Is that the "Superman stuff" you were talking about before? Shaving? Of course it could be done, but there are far more important things to do here.

Clark for Example only uses Superspeed to get from A to B or to save people from danger. But you never see him use it to read or type or anything else.

It would be good to see him use his super speed to quickly get some things done.

 

[LostSon88]

LOL...good acting on Shelby in that 2nd clip. t:

 

[LostSon88]

Are you sure about that? Think about it for a second. With everything thats going on in Clark's life do you think he has enough time to do homework, study, his work on the farm, etc. It would be good to see him use his super speed to quickly get some things done. Or how about shaving. Clark is like 19 already. The man should start growing some facial hair. I remember in the animated series from the `90s they showed Clark using his heat vision to shave. Why can't that be done here?

So you want to see Clark using his powers for regular joe things? Um...why?

 

[Eddie Brock]

the budget has nothing to do with it
they just don't want to delve too far into the Superman powers such as flight