1st POST, QUESTION FOR THE EXPERTS!!....

[Greegs]

I'll just start of by saying im a long time lurker of the smallville boards, been watching the show since the 1st ep and think the trivia and input you's guys share on here is awesome, and it really adds to my enjoyment of smallville on the whole.
Ive been pondering over where the writers are headed with their interpretation of the superman mythology and would like some feedback, if in this superman universe, lois and clark know each other at an early age, and clark is an enemy of lex not superman, will the show end having created a new telling of the story, or is it likely there will be some major shift plot wise, toward the end of the series which will try to allign smallville with the traditional setting of the comics/films.
Basically my point is, the show constantly foreshadows what will become of its characters in relation to existing canon, yet it is hindering itself getting there with any logic because of the writers new take on the mythology.

 

[Sam Fisher]

Well, I'm no Superman comic expert but I think the show has already gone past the point of trying to make it like the comics. Think of SV as an alternate reality.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Yea, listen...it is it's own telling of the mythology and with that you accept the creative changes done by the writers. It's just like the movies work off of their own continuity....in the same respect so does this show.


Heck, the comics sometimes seem to work off of their own continuity and they are supposed to take place in the same universe.

 

[avidreader]

The thing is, in my opinion, if they followed the comics too strictly then it would all be rather predictable. Taking the mythology of the characters and putting their own spin on it is what makes it interesting and gives it longevity.

I'm sure by the time the series winds up things will mostly be as they should, with maybe a few exceptions, such as Lois and Lex knowing that Clark Kent is Superman.

 

[Brainiac 8]

People may hate the idea...but I am hoping that Lex learns about Clark by the shows end..it would be an interesting spin to the emnity between the two.

 

[Eros]

People may hate the idea...but I am hoping that Lex learns about Clark by the shows end..it would be an interesting spin to the emnity between the two.

If he doesn't know by the end, Clark first apperance as superman should give it away.

 

[Brainiac 8]

If he doesn't know by the end, Clark first apperance as superman should give it away.

Yea, but by that logic, everyone that meets Clark in the comics should know that he and Superman are the same...especially Lois Lane.

 

[Eros]

Yea, but by that logic, everyone that meets Clark in the comics should know that he and Superman are the same...especially Lois Lane.

well comic book Lois didn't know clark before he came to metropolis, nor did Jimmy, and nor did Perry White or Lex

 

[Brainiac 2009]

Yea, but by that logic, everyone that meets Clark in the comics should know that he and Superman are the same...especially Lois Lane.

Clark usually wears his Metropolis disguise with Lois, Jimmy and Lex. In Smallville, he doesnt. In the SV universe, Lois, Jimmy and Lex will have to know unless they plan to go the campy route of Lois and Clark.

 

[Eros]

Clark usually wears his Metropolis disguise with Lois, Jimmy and Lex. In Smallville, he doesnt. In the SV universe, Lois, Jimmy and Lex will have to know unless they plan to go the campy route of Lois and Clark.

Even in Lois and Clark,Lois,Jimmy, and Lex did not know Clark before he came to metropolis for the first time to work wearing his glasses and ruffled hair.

 

[Kaboom]

why do i even bother?

http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252038

 

[Eros]

^ Thanks Kaboom.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

well comic book Lois didn't know clark before he came to metropolis, nor did Jimmy, and nor did Perry White or Lex

yeah because those glasses would TOTALLY fool them if he's never met them before [/sarcasm]

 

[AgentPat]

yeah because those glasses would TOTALLY fool them if he's never met them before [/sarcasm]

I'm glad somebody said it. I hate these freakin' debates. They're just plain stupid.

 

[Eros]

yeah because those glasses would TOTALLY fool them if he's never met them before [/sarcasm]

So what would to expect them to do then, smallville Clark pops on a pair of glasses and the next day Lois does not reconize him.

 

[Brainiac 8]

yeah because those glasses would TOTALLY fool them if he's never met them before [/sarcasm]

I'm glad somebody said it. I hate these freakin' debates. They're just plain stupid.

That's what I was trying to say, Soooorry I'm not as well spoken as the Hulkster!

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

It sucks that in the elseworld sv version if you imagine Clark finally moving to Metropolis and starting at Daily Planet... There is nobody left for him to meet for first time. He met Perry, Lex, Lois, now an annoying version of Jimmy as well. Unless they bring back the kiss, whew he's got a lot of kissing to do and I have a feeling Perry White won't have it super powers or not!

 

[NHawk19]

^^It could be they'll resurrect a power not used since the 1940s. His ability to change his facial features.

I'm not saying they should or that I endorse it but they could and it would fall right in line with the golden age comics.

 

[Migu-EL]

I'm sure that the reason why the writers had Clark meet everyone before he was Superman was because they didn't plan for the show go beyond Clark putting on the cape and tights. So they probably decided to have fun with it and introduce everyone early because they wouldn't get the chance to do it when he is Superman.

 

[Kaboom]

and bingo was his name-o

 

[AgentPat]

^^It could be they'll resurrect a power not used since the 1940s. His ability to change his facial features.

I'm not saying they should or that I endorse it but they could and it would fall right in line with the golden age comics.

Or maybe they'll continue to reinvent the mythology like they've always done, making it more real and up-to-date?

Greegs, the beauty of SV is that it honors the legend w/o being slaves to it. They use previously established story details as guides, not blueprints, and that keeps it fresh. Certain elements of canon are written in stone: Clark becomes Superman, Lex becomes his greatest enemy, Clark loves Lois Lane, Lois loves Superman, and the "three" dance around each other while Clark and Lois are reporters at the DP. Who knows what and whom, why and for how long change all the time.

Personally, I like to think of SV as the new Superman origin for this generation. What's being established now is the new canon going forward. While it fills in the blanks to Clark's early years, it's not solely a prequel to a present day mythology. The show is starting fresh with new characterizations and interpersonal relationships but still pays homage to other versions of the legend that birthed it.

For example, in SV continuity, Clark doesn't just walk into a major metropolitan newspaper for a job and fall head over heels for the paper's top reporter. There's a huge history behind his love for Lois Lane. Does she already know him? Well of course she does. Does she know he's Superman? I guess we'll just have to wait and see, assuming the show goes that far (the producers say they won't get to that point, so it might be a moot discussion.)

In SV continuity, Lex is a troubled young man who took the blame for his own brother's death as a child, denied the love of his father because of it, and later became pathologically jealous of his best friend's possessions, both tangible and intangible. Lex wants to make a difference in the world, but his desire for power and attention obscure the immoral methods he uses to achieve those goals. Lex's well intentioned but reprehensible projects grow exponentially with every failure he suffers, and his suspicions of his best friend for being responsible for that injustice isn't misplaced. Just wait till he meets the guy who not only doesn't hide his disdain for Lex's methods, the world will see him as their hero and not Lex. Will SV get to that point too? Probably not. So it's yet another moot point.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

So what would to expect them to do then, smallville Clark pops on a pair of glasses and the next day Lois does not reconize him.

how is that any less silly than Lois meeting Clark for the first time in Metropolis, and then seeing Superman and not recognizing him? The glasses "disguise" is silly no matter when Lois comes into his life

 

[Brainiac 8]

how is that any less silly than Lois meeting Clark for the first time in Metropolis, and then seeing Superman and not recognizing him? The glasses "disguise" is silly no matter when Lois comes into his life

A-friggin-men.

People get so worked up over them knowing Clark now...who gives a flying rat's patoot. Just the fact that glasses can throw them off is alot to stomach, why is it so hard to stomach they won't be thrown off by that act later down the road. Silliness.

 

[Greegs]

Or maybe they'll continue to reinvent the mythology like they've always done, making it more real and up-to-date?

Greegs, the beauty of SV is that it honors the legend w/o being slaves to it. They use previously established story details as guides, not blueprints, and that keeps it fresh. Certain elements of canon are written in stone: Clark becomes Superman, Lex becomes his greatest enemy, Clark loves Lois Lane, Lois loves Superman, and the "three" dance around each other while Clark and Lois are reporters at the DP. Who knows what and whom, why and for how long change all the time.

Personally, I like to think of SV as the new Superman origin for this generation. What's being established now is the new canon going forward. While it fills in the blanks to Clark's early years, it's not solely a prequel to a present day mythology. The show is starting fresh with new characterizations and interpersonal relationships but still pays homage to other versions of the legend that birthed it.

For example, in SV continuity, Clark doesn't just walk into a major metropolitan newspaper for a job and fall head over heels for the paper's top reporter. There's a huge history behind his love for Lois Lane. Does she already know him? Well of course she does. Does she know he's Superman? I guess we'll just have to wait and see, assuming the show goes that far (the producers say they won't get to that point, so it might be a moot discussion.)

In SV continuity, Lex is a troubled young man who took the blame for his own brother's death as a child, denied the love of his father because of it, and later became pathologically jealous of his best friend's possessions, both tangible and intangible. Lex wants to make a difference in the world, but his desire for power and attention obscure the immoral methods he uses to achieve those goals. Lex's well intentioned but reprehensible projects grow exponentially with every failure he suffers, and his suspicions of his best friend for being responsible for that injustice isn't misplaced. Just wait till he meets the guy who not only doesn't hide his disdain for Lex's methods, the world will see him as their hero and not Lex. Will SV get to that point too? Probably not. So it's yet another moot point.

I absolutely agree, thanks AgentPat, i was just curious to the general consensus among smallville fans, wether they believed the writers will stick to their guns and give a new generation a superman mythos of their own of if they would drop the ball and start a mass amnesia plot towards the end of the next season! thanks for everyones input.

 

[Kaboom]

the problem is weve done this osng and dance a million times.....we dont need a new thread =(