Comics Carey vs Brubaker

[Valechan]

IT's been a lot of time and I must say things are NOT what I expected them to be.

When the most recent "X-Change" of writers occured we were left with two very different teams. One was a mixture of X-Factor, Excalibur and X-Force, and the other team seemed to come out of a fanfiction work. The first was heading off to space and meet the Shi'ar, respecting and continuing the History of the X-Men, while the other one was going to battle yet another hidden nation of superbeings. I must say, the Uncanny team and story seemed much more appealing at first, yet, in the end, it did not deliver. The X-Men story was so much more interesting, it had characterization, it had nods to past continuity (and I'm not talking about two years from now, I'm talking about even stuff from the nineties), it had action, drama, even "romance" in just six issues.

It is obvious that Mr Carey knows the X-Men inside out, something that the previous writers of the book did not at all (Milligan's jokeable characterization and Morrison's terrible continuity/characterization mistakes are proof of this).

If I had to choose between one of these two books, right now, I'd choose X-Men in a heartbeat. What would you choose?

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Hungh. Too bad there's no 'both are quite bad right now, I'll stick to Astonishing thank you' option.

And keep in mind, it's not so much the writing as the story that's not so thrilling in UXM

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

It is obvious that Mr Carey knows the X-Men inside out, something that the previous writers of the book did not at all (Milligan's jokeable characterization and Morrison's terrible continuity/characterization mistakes are proof of this).

MMM.

Not that I'm a huge fan of Morrison's run short of the Emott thingy, but, seriously, characterization was the last of my problems with that run.

How about the whole 'next to nothing happening short of Nova and killing off Jean' angle???

 

[Havok83]

I love both but if I had to choose, Id give UXM the slight edge

 

[usagicassidy]

X-Men, easily. While the previous arc was at times confusing (due to artist interpretation, the monthly timeframe, and my early alsheimers), it was afantastic thrillride that beats anything that's happened in Uncanny. The first issue of Uncanny made me think this would be my favorite, but after each issue, I became less and less sold. Not the case with X-Men, where I became more enthralled with each issue.

 

[Mike059jig]

Very hard decision.........edge goes to UXM...for now

 

[Krynn]

I have to say X-men, because there isn't a neither category. Both are pretty bad, but at least with Carey the arcs are short so plot still happens, unlike Brubaker who has been dragging on this Shi'ar storyarc for far too long now.

 

[usagicassidy]

Seriously? I am not really a fan of Uncanny right now, but both titles are certainly better than the Milligan / Claremont X-Men that we've had for the past year or two.

 

[Kevin]

I'm more into UXM. The art and story in x-men just feels meh to me. It's good, but I'm not jumping for joy. I didn't care for the children. I don't care for this pan guy. I don't care for where it's heading. All is just meh.

 

[Valechan]

Once more we have a like mind usagi

 

[Brainiac 8]

It's difficult for me to choose, but ultimately I chose Uncanny.

Brubaker hit a chord with me by doing a Sh'iar story.

I love that he is continuing to explore more about Xavier's exile from the empire, and how he will go headfirst into death in order to save Lilandra from a psycho like Vulcan. They spent so many years showing all the jerky things about Xavier, that it's nice to see him acting like a hero again.

Plus they mentioned Annihilation in one of the issues, great way to add current continuity.

Plus Starjammers, whom I love and missed.t:

 

[mightiest_mortal]

X-Men.

Uncannys stil pretty good.. it just seems a little Claremontian in places with the random hookups. X-Men has more of an unpredicatable edge but it still manages to work. (id actually say both were better than Astonishing mind)

 

[JewishHobbit]

I agree that I like both of these better than Astonishing. Right now, Astonishing feels like an other world comic that has nothing to do with anything.

I like Uncanny and X-Men both. Uncanny's good, but it's not as good as I thought it'd be. Brubaker pulls his typical resurection storyline with D'Ken, and that's pretty much killed it for me. The only saving grace at this moment is Darwin. As for X-Men, while it's not the best thing I've read, it's still good. I think the art is what's taking away some of the enjoyment for me. The story isn't bad, and even the art isn't bad, it's just not clicking as much for me. However, I do like everyone together and overall I find myself more interested in X-Men than Uncanny, so X-Men wins in my opinion.

 

[Kevin]

Either way the poll goes, X-factor and New X-men is better than both of them.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Agreed

Though I'd say all three of them, including Astonishing.

 

[Kevin]

Agreed

Though I'd say all three of them, including Astonishing.

Of course.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Mmm.

Wasn't Seb's original point that both of them were lackluster anyway?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Don't make me choose lol.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Carey has a handle on the characters he's created, like the Children, and Pandemic. And I wouldn't doubt he aleady has a mentality developed for Hetacomb.

In the recent Livewire interview, Brubaker said that even though he created Darwin, he's having a hard time writing his personality... And that's just ONE character.

So if Carey can create an entire team of villains, and two "all powerful" villains, and have their personalities and motives down without batting an eye, my vote obviously goes to Mike Carey.

 

[Kevin]

But Carey's Villians, so far, have done nothing for me. I at least Like Darwin and can't wait to see what he does next.

 

[Darthkush]

Uncanny without question.

I'm not really that into the Shiar storyline Brubaker has going on but it's written pretty well and the art is stellar. I like seeing the Professor in action again.

X-men on the other hand is fairly weak. There's just very little to like about it. The art is...okay but the stories aren't interesting in the slightest and the team lineup is also pretty weak. And Rogue as the leader of the team? I just don't buy it. She's done it before and i didn't buy it then either. I'm also not into having Sabretooth or Mystique as members of the team. It always ALWAYS backfires on the X-men eventually. I'm just not into Carey's writing. I keep reading in the hopes that things will change and because I always like to know what all the various x-teams are up to. I don't want to get too far behind. Hell, I liked Milligan's run better. It wasn't great but we got a cool(albeit silly) Apocalypse tale out of his run.

Astonishing still trumps both of them but it's no longer the perfection I felt it was during it's first 12 issues.

 

[Havok83]

Carey has a handle on the characters he's created, like the Children, and Pandemic. And I wouldn't doubt he aleady has a mentality developed for Hetacomb.

In the recent Livewire interview, Brubaker said that even though he created Darwin, he's having a hard time writing his personality... And that's just ONE character.

So if Carey can create an entire team of villains, and two "all powerful" villains, and have their personalities and motives down without batting an eye, my vote obviously goes to Mike Carey.

I also prefer Vulcan and the Shi'ar crew to Pan and the Children

 

[OutcryX]

I don't like that Vulcan is now nailing Bishop's girl(Deathbird)

I like whats going on with X-Men. Yeah brand new Uber-baddies that always dissapear never to be seen again....but they were cool while they were here...and expendable meaning the X-Men could cut loose and start murdering some folks and not hold back on their powers....not like they would do that though...much...

 

[usagicassidy]

I like that Carey has introduced new villians. I mean with all the baddies in the X-universe dying, being depowered, or switching sides, we need fresh evil people.

 

[Havok83]

I like that Carey has introduced new villians. I mean with all the baddies in the X-universe dying, being depowered, or switching sides, we need fresh evil people.

yeah its necesary. Lets hope they have staying power bc with the exception of Cassandra Nova and maybe Vargas, the recent batch of X-men villians have been forgettable