Cloak & Dagger Cloak and Dagger General Discussion

[Mike Murdock]

Love the Animals music choice. Does anyone know if the spiritual/religious aspects are in any comic?

Can we get a forum now?

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

They did have a church scene in the trailer. I am betting it goes further than a Church of England funeral and Captain America proclaiming a monotheistic God. Probably even further than Mac saying he is a man of faith or Yo-Yo wearing a crucifix.

 

[Quasar]

I've finally started seeing promos for this when I use On Demand to watch shows on Freefom.

 

[Sithborg]

"Divine pairing" is not a direction I expected. My interest is highly picqued now. For some reason, that and the New Orleans setting has me thinking about D'Spayre as the villain.

 

[chamber-music]

Love the Animals music choice. Does anyone know if the spiritual/religious aspects are in any comic?

Can we get a forum now?

Cloak and dagger were based out of holy ghost church in early stories and faced supernatural foes from time to time but in the comics. The whole Devine pairing stuff is new though. Probably make use of the spirituality of the new Orleans setting.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah, I know about the church since I read the early issues (through the first mini). It's more the divine pairing aspect I was asking about.

 

[Spider-Fan]

This actually looks pretty good

 

[HunBoy]

 

[samsnee]

So this is officially part of the MCU right? Do we know timeline when it takes place? Obviously after the events of Infinity War, it raises questions.

 

[NotNickFury]

I mean, like Runaways and the Netflix shows, I imagine that this is also part of the MCU, but just doing its own thing. And aside from SHIELD, I seriously doubt the shows will touch upon the effects of Infinity War, particularly depending on when the shows were filmed.

 

[samsnee]

Yeah they’re in a tough bind. The events of IW were pretty cataclysmic so I don’t know how you just ignore it.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I mean, i haven't finished runaways yet.. but i can't even remotely recall a reference to the MCU in it...

 

[DawnWarrior]

Nobody can ignore the events of IW. I expect that, until Part 2 comes out next year, everything else in the MCU occurs before.

 

[chamber-music]

Cloak & Dagger was filmed last year. Marvel's TV and Film divisions don't correlate much these days. I wouldn't expect a reference to Infinity War.

Runaways barely mentioned anything related to other Marvel properties.

Roxxon being villains in this is probably the biggest MCU connection.

The events of Infinity War have put the Marvel TV division in a corner. Some of these shows are going to have to address what happened at some point.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

pretty certain if reality is altered in Avengers 4... they will just cause the TV portion of the studio to be in a similar, but different alt reality... and then they wont have to acknowledge any of it.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Cloak looks like he has long curly hair on one side, lol.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Nobody can ignore the events of IW. I expect that, until Part 2 comes out next year, everything else in the MCU occurs before.

Or everybody knew it was on the schedule and read the source books and set their show in the period between the movies pending a total reset like Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D has to work without a S.H.I.E.L.D

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Cloak and dagger were based out of holy ghost church in early stories and faced supernatural foes from time to time but in the comics. The whole Devine pairing stuff is new though. Probably make use of the spirituality of the new Orleans setting.

Assuming this happens after the trauma that the universe suffered there would have to be a resurgence of religion among new and present faiths unsurpassed by any period of recorded history. There have been many spiritual supernatural TV shows before that take no side in the real world fight between competing sects. So I think it is possible here as background material in this corner of the MCU.

 

[Sithborg]

I would rather they just be separate.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm fine with them being connected as they are now. Not every hero will get a movie, so TV shows are a good alternative. We act like Marvel Comics always had this fluid continuity, but how did Operation Galactic Storm effect the Punisher and his war on crime? Not very much, right? They're just different stories in the same universe. I think we over complicate things a bit.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

I'm fine with them being connected as they are now. Not every hero will get a movie, so TV shows are a good alternative. We act like Marvel Comics always had this fluid continuity, but how did Operation Galactic Storm effect the Punisher and his war on crime? Not very much, right? They're just different stories in the same universe. I think we over complicate things a bit.

The thing is that the event was so traumatic that I want some show with more time than the minutes Avengers 4 can allocate to world building to tell that story.
Being the first show out besides the Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D finale gives them a chance to Turn, Turn, Turn.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The thing is that the event was so traumatic that I want some show with more time than the minutes Avengers 4 can allocate to world building to tell that story.
Being the first show out besides the Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D finale gives them a chance to Turn, Turn, Turn.

The thing is the point of a shared universe is to not just do things like that. You still need to tell the story you want to tell, and I imagine that particular event doesn't further the agenda of the story. That's not like a minor easter egg to try to include. So, if it is going to distract the show from the more important larger story, better to just set it prior to the events and do their own thing.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

The thing is the point of a shared universe is to not just do things like that. You still need to tell the story you want to tell, and I imagine that particular event doesn't further the agenda of the story. That's not like a minor easter egg to try to include. So, if it is going to distract the show from the more important larger story, better to just set it prior to the events and do their own thing.

I would say it was a major world changing event. That a minor, in comparison, incident made Hell's Kitchen back into what it used to be compared to a new sign on the Stark building before Homecoming hit the screen being an earlier world building TV with its greater screen time has the movies

 

[Spider-Fan]

I would say it was a major world changing event. That a minor, in comparison, incident made Hell's Kitchen back into what it used to be compared to a new sign on the Stark building before Homecoming hit the screen being an earlier world building TV with its greater screen time has the movies

I said it was a major event in my above post. Which again, major event like that can basically take over the focus of the show. If it is going to do that, it becomes not worth including and changing the setting/time frame the show takes place so it can be avoided. At the end of the day, this show needs to be Cloak & Dagger.

 

[Sithborg]

Yeah, you can't turn all the shows into the "Thanos event show".