CNN hosting second LP TOWN HALL 8-3-16.

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At 9pm this Wed. Hosted by Anderson Cooper. The first ever LP Townhall in June or early July, did a bit over 900K viewers.

 

[Thundercrack85]

You know, I usually roll my eyes at a third party candidate, but Johnson may really influence this election.

 

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You know, I usually roll my eyes at a third party candidate, but Johnson may really influence this election.

He is getting lots of free media. But his numbers are not improving. But he is steady. Stein MAY improve after she officially gets her party's nomination. He is on track to be at 1.5 to 6 million facebook likes by election day. Right now he is around 990K. In May or June he was at 400K something still.

According to a email to supporters, he raised 750K recently in one week. I know his moneybomb to get 250K took about a week. Um...in less than a week he has gotten over 309K signatures to include him into the debates. But he has right under 2 weeks to meet cut off. Sooooo...

But i am fairly certain as a supporter and volunteer he will get more than 2% in election. He has a rally in Nevada and Utah this week, his first two so far. Two sitting GOP senators have endorsed him and swutched to LP. One of them is retiring soon though. Other GOP Reps have endorsed him.

In any case...a third party this time around is making a bit of noise.

 

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.47 rating. 1.6Million viewers. #6 for night.


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[Matt]

You know, if the Libertarian Party had any desire to be taken seriously, they would flip the ticket. This year provides such a great opportunity for the Libertarian Party. Never before, in modern politics, has there been a major party nominee who is so out of touch with the values of both the Party and America as a whole. The LP could easily put up Perot numbers in this election and maybe win a state or two. But instead of actually going for that, they have Gary Johnson, a guy who was a contractor prior to becoming the governor of a small irrelevant state, going on 60 Minutes, wearing a Hawaiian shirt, talking about how he promises not to smoke weed in the White House. Do they think this is how you get your party taken seriously?

Meanwhile, Bill Weld was a from United States Attorney turned successful governor of one of the largest, most populated states in the Union that also serves as an economic hub...and he is playing second fiddle.

If the ticket were flipped, I'd be a lot more interested in the Libertarian Party this election. But as it stands, Gary Johnson is going to keep it as a fringe party, because he presents the image of a fringe candidate.

 

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You know, if the Libertarian Party had any desire to be taken seriously, they would flip the ticket. This year provides such a great opportunity for the Libertarian Party. Never before, in modern politics, has there been a major party nominee who is so out of touch with the values of both the Party and America as a whole. The LP could easily put up Perot numbers in this election and maybe win a state or two. But instead of actually going for that, they have Gary Johnson, a guy who was a contractor prior to becoming the governor of a small irrelevant state, going on 60 Minutes, wearing a Hawaiian shirt, talking about how he promises not to smoke weed in the White House. Do they think this is how you get your party taken seriously?

Meanwhile, Bill Weld was a from United States Attorney turned successful governor of one of the largest, most populated states in the Union that also serves as an economic hub...and he is playing second fiddle.

If the ticket were flipped, I'd be a lot more interested in the Libertarian Party this election. But as it stands, Gary Johnson is going to keep it as a fringe party, because he presents the image of a fringe candidate.

No way on God's green earth would Weld be on top of ticket. He had no desire to be even VP til Gary asked. Gary got nomination on second ballot cause of Weld. Weld got his on second nomination.

New York may not even get Johnson and Weld on ballot as LP. Cause Weld pissed off the LP in NY back in 06. Ran as Gov as GOP AND LP..when he lost nom for GOP...he broke promise with LP. Last i read NY wasnte even trying to get them on LP ballot.

 

[Matt]

No way on God's green earth would Weld be on top of ticket. He had no desire to be even VP til Gary asked. Gary got nomination on second ballot cause of Weld. Weld got his on second nomination.

New York may not even get Johnson and Weld on ballot as LP. Cause Weld pissed off the LP in NY back in 06. Ran as Gov as GOP AND LP..when he lost nom for GOP...he broke promise with LP. Last i read NY wasnte even trying to get them on LP ballot.

Then it goes to show how petty and silly the LP is. They would never win NY to begin with. They could win some smaller, more conservative states if they spent their money properly with Weld on top of the ticket. But no one is going to take them seriously with a guy like Johnson, treating the campaign like Spring Break up top.

Johnson may have brilliant ideas and a great platform (he doesn't, but let's say he does in arguendo). But it doesn't mean a damn thing when no one takes you seriously because you somehow find a way to present yourself in a manner that is even more childish than Donald Trump.

Well, that's not fair. Trump acts like an insolent, entitled child. Johnson acts like a burnout teenager who is running for prom king rather than the position that holds our nuclear codes.

If the Libertarian Party wishes to be taken seriously, they should've nominated a candidate who could be taken seriously. That's Bill Weld. But they didn't. And so they will miss the best opportunity they will have for years to come.

 

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Then it goes to show how petty and silly the LP is. They would never win NY to begin with. They could win some smaller, more conservative states if they spent their money properly with Weld on top of the ticket. But no one is going to take them seriously with a guy like Johnson, treating the campaign like Spring Break up top.

Johnson may have brilliant ideas and a great platform (he doesn't, but let's say he does in arguendo). But it doesn't mean a damn thing when no one takes you seriously because you somehow find a way to present yourself in a manner that is even more childish than Donald Trump.

Well, that's not fair. Trump acts like an insolent, entitled child. Johnson acts like a burnout teenager who is running for prom king rather than the position that holds our nuclear codes.

If the Libertarian Party wishes to be taken seriously, they should've nominated a candidate who could be taken seriously. That's Bill Weld. But they didn't. And so they will miss the best opportunity they will have for years to come.

People are taking the campaign seriously. Tons of free earned media. Two townhalls on CNN. Late Show with Colbert! Weld never to my understanding had a desire to be on top of ticket.

Four polls came out yesterday. All 4 way nationally. A pair of 6% and pair of 10%. And Tuesday 12% in Fox News 3 way.

Another issue with Weld is he endorsed Kasich..who had LP of Ohio kicked off ballot in Ohio. So IF Johnson and Weld are on there it will be as Independent. Not LP. Now the word is Weld didnt know Kasich sued to throw LP off Ohio or he was aiming to do that.

I will admit...Weld is a better, smoother talker. Probably better at debates as well. And he likes fundraising. His job as VP...is to literally get on the news, which he has, and fundraise. Gary doesn't like asking for money. Weld loves to.

Gary got his start in construction. All by himself. Unlike Trump who asked for a small loan of a million dollars...Gary did it by himself. Turned that into a construction company with nearly a 1000 employees. Ran as Gov...in a state 2-1 Dem...and won as GOP. He was a nobody and won.

Fundraising has gone up this summer and continues to do so. Apparently Weld got a million or so via phone calls. And Johnson got a million in last couple weeks. Officially the campaign is at $1.4M. So with these figues...when next FEC comes out...probably should be at least 5M I am thinking. A national radio buy is being planned as well.

Another thing is...and I will give you points on Weld. Romney and Bush..probably would have endorsed by now, if Weld was on top. Fundraising would probably be through the roof. Right now..its better than 2012. Everything is moving faster for fundraising. Johnson has over a million Facebook likes. In May or June he was at 400-500K on there.

With Johnson at the helm, its gonna be a good year. But yes, with Weld, it could be historic with his connections at top of ticket. Time will tell!

 

[Sithborg]

If the Libertarian Party wishes to be taken seriously, they should've nominated a candidate who could be taken seriously. That's Bill Weld. But they didn't. And so they will miss the best opportunity they will have for years to come.

Did you see Samantha Bee's piece on their convention? Johnson is the serious candidate.