Cop killer on the run calls out to celebs

[MessiahDecoy123]

...please tell me you're not insinuating there are no good police officers.

He was asking me because I am obviously not a fan of the LAPD.

 

[Visceral]

...please tell me you're not insinuating there are no good police officers.

No

 

[Hunter Rider]

He was asking me because I am obviously not a fan of the LAPD.

The LAPD is not a person, you are lumping all of them in with the bad apples. Get pulled over because of your skin colour? get slapped about or something? because that is how you come off, a bitter agenda driven kid who has decided that somehow this killer is in the right because some cops in the LAPD have gotten away with some stuff.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I've only see a few of MD's post in this thread. Is he serious? If so, I'd rather not read of his posts in this thread because I like having brain cells?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

The LAPD is not a person, you are lumping all of them in with the bad apples. Get pulled over because of your skin colour? get slapped about or something? because that is how you come off, a bitter agenda driven kid who has decided that somehow this killer is in the right because some cops in the LAPD have gotten away with some stuff.

I really don't see what the big deal is.

Not everyone is going to like the LAPD.

Does everyone have to?

It sure seems like it.

 

[Victarion]

I really don't see what the big deal is.

Not everyone is going to like the LAPD.

Does everyone have to?

It sure seems like it.

Not at all; I can't speak for everyone, but I am not a fan of disproportionate retribution.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I really don't see what the big deal is.

Not everyone is going to like the LAPD.

Does everyone have to?

It sure seems like it.

That has nothing to do with what I asked or pointed out, disliking the whole of the LAPD because of the actions of a few cops is as stupid as any other form of prejudice.

 

[CConn]

It's actually exactly the same kind of prejudice. Ironic.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

That has nothing to do with what I asked or pointed out, disliking the whole of the LAPD because of the actions of a few cops is as stupid as any other form of prejudice.

What about disliking congress or lawyers?

Is that "stupid"?

 

[Hunter Rider]

What about disliking congress or lawyers?

Is that "stupid"?

Yes it is, disliking anyone based purely on their job is moronic.

 

[Victarion]

@ Messiah: No, you are entitled to that opinion. However, your example of having a dislike of congress/lawyers doesn't apply to this situation.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Yes it is, disliking anyone based purely on their job is moronic.

I'd say it depends on the job and it's function for society.

Police, to me, have the primary function of systematic control and a distant secondary function of public safety.

Therefore I distrust and dislike people who choose to serve that function. Not a completely unreasonable stand point IMO.

 

[Anita18]

Even if he was fired for bad reasons, it is NOT an excuse to kill cops or their families. None. Zero. Nada. His actions have no justification whatsoever.

A sane person says, "Well, screw all of you" and moves on with his life. Stewing about it for 3 years is not healthy by itself, and if this is the result, then HELLS NO. He had all the time in the world to walk away. All this is on him.

He could have helped write a whistleblower article for the LATimes or something, if he really wanted to get back at them. THAT would be admirable. Killing anyone associated with his previous employer is never an applicable choice.

 

[Victarion]

When their job is to uphold the rules, I find it an unreasonable standpoint. By all means, decry corruption where you see it, however. Public safety comes from the control on irrational or unstable individuals implemented by the law.

@Anita: Didn't you know--the LAPD controls the papers too.

 

[Anita18]

I'd say it depends on the job and it's function for society.

Police, to me, have the primary function of systematic control and a distant secondary function of public safety.

Therefore I distrust and dislike people who choose to serve that function. Not a completely unreasonable stand point IMO.

Are there any stats on what kinds of calls police go out on? I have no idea where to start with Google.

I expect it also depends on where it is. There are small towns on the way to the ski resorts that are very stringent on speed limits, because that's how the town gets money. But my sister was in the throws of some really bad menstrual cramps while out running near Golden Gate Park and she flagged down some police officers who took her home because she really didn't look well. It took a lot of convincing for them not to drive her to the hospital. So YMMV with cops. I suspect both types exist - ones who like being in charge and telling people what to do, and others who really do care about public safety.

 

[KalMart]

You might not like the Catholic church, but that doesn't mean that you should be glad young boys got raped to expose their problems. If one man's pedophile is another man's crusader......you have to wonder about that other man. I know with Dorner we're only talking murder here, as opposed to something despicable like rape, but still.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

@ Messiah: No, you are entitled to that opinion. However, your example of having a dislike of congress/lawyers doesn't apply to this situation.

I understand this doesn't apply to everyone but there is a lynch mob mentality toward a radical black man who is accused of crimes.

Even though that same lynch mob may have formed regardless of the racial dynamics, I just can't join or even associate with that mentality.

I hope it's resolved without further violence to either party though.

 

[Anita18]

When their job is to uphold the rules, I find it an unreasonable standpoint. By all means, decry corruption where you see it, however. Public safety comes from the control on irrational or unstable individuals implemented by the law.

@Anita: Didn't you know--the LAPD controls the papers too.

Internets! Some kind of wannabe reporter blogger would be all up on this!

 

[Victarion]

Its not a lynch mob, Messiah. Its a desire to bring the man to justice before he kills another innocent or gets himself killed. Dorner isn't known for his skin colour, only his deed. In this case, killing some innocents as well as cops.

 

[Anita18]

Before I saw his picture, I actually assumed Dorner was white. The most famous serial killers are white, not black.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I'd say it depends on the job and it's function for society.

Police, to me, have the primary function of systematic control and a distant secondary function of public safety.

Therefore I distrust and dislike people who choose to serve that function. Not a completely unreasonable stand point IMO.

I understand this doesn't apply to everyone but there is a lynch mob mentality toward a radical black man who is accused of crimes.

Even though that same lynch mob may have formed regardless of the racial dynamics, I just can't join or even associate with that mentality.

I hope it's resolved without further violence to either party though.

You actually managed to make an even worse post than the one I quoted, I actually didn't know this Domer guy was black, now I get why you're on this kick, it has nothing to do with right or wrong, it's a racial deal in your head.

 

[KalMart]

Before I saw his picture, I actually assumed Dorner was white. The most famous serial killers are white, not black.

That's Hollywood for ya'.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Before I saw his picture, I actually assumed Dorner was white. The most famous serial killers are white, not black.

Me too, the penny at least has finally dropped on why Messiah is taking the route he is.

 

[Schlosser85]

I'd say it depends on the job and it's function for society.

Police, to me, have the primary function of systematic control and a distant secondary function of public safety.

Therefore I distrust and dislike people who choose to serve that function. Not a completely unreasonable stand point IMO.

Ya know what....I don't even care right now if I'm overstepping.

You're not an intelligent person.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Its not a lynch mob, Messiah. Its a desire to bring the man to justice before he kills another innocent or gets himself killed. Dorner isn't known for his skin colour, only his deed. In this case, killing some innocents as well as cops.

I know how some white people think (past and present) and I know Dorner's race/political views and that combo is enough for me to not join in.

It doesn't matter what he's accused of doing or how many whites are only concerned with justice, black men were routinely hunted like animals and lynched for acts of rebellion in south well into the 20th century by the KKK and it happened often. Knowing this and that enough whites share that attitude today, I can't root for his capture or death but I will hope that things are resolved without further violence.