Costumes! Discuss them Here!

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What do you think of the costumes?

  • PERFECT!

  • They're good, they could have been alittle more faithful.

  • They work I guess.

  • I hate them.


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I'm seriously finding it hard to beleive that people actually think Nite Owl looks "too cool". Seriously? He looks cool? You really think a guy dressed in an armored owl costume looks cool?

Snyder found a pretty damn good balance between making him look silly as hell, yet not to the point of being embarrased and feeling like you're watching a fan film. Nite Owl doesn't look cool. Like someone else said, he looks silly, but not silly enough to detract from the drama of the film and have the audience laughing at him.
 
I dont think the costumes stray too far from the orginals. well obviously they need to be tweaked for the movie. You guys need to stop with the " too modern" and "doesn't reflect the 80's" comments. HOw primitive do you think we were in th 70's 80's?
The new costumes look a bit odd in their own right, but you people seem to think because it is set in 80's they couldn't possibly make a costume that may reflect a proper hero due to technology.
In my opinion, nite owl could easily have come out of a flash gordon movie from the 70's or even compare to designs and acual costumes from the likes of star wars (storm troopers, vader) so i don't see why everyone thinks costumes must be crap beause of the timeline.
I understand the idea and image of men running around in these costumes, in reality, may well be absurd but doesn't mean that they have to be badly made and made of spandex or bellowing robes.
 
Kno what costume element i hope doesnt make it: Comedians gimp mask
 
The costumes look stupid enough to prove the point that they are silly, but they aren't so terrible looking that nobody would be able to take them seriously. Job done.
 
These threads need to stop. You people cannot stop nitpicking and *****ing for five minutes, can you? No matter what any director does, you crazy people will find some "flaw" in it and whine and whine and whine.

The costumes capture everything they need to : they look like superhero costumes, they're a bit silly and they stray only slightly from the comics. If they came out in spandex (Why spandex, anyway? That's not the only form-fitting material in the world), the audience would be too busy laughing to pay attention to the story. With these costumes, you preserve the essence of the characters and immediately relate to the audience that yes, these people are/were superheroes. Now, the audience can focus on what actually matters.

I swear to God, you people seem like you'd be happy with the crappiest story, dialogue and directing as long as the heroes were wearing spandex. It's insane.

And I really don't get this talk of them being "cool". They look appropriately ridiculous to me.
 
And I really don't get this talk of them being "cool". They look appropriately ridiculous to me.

but when these were first debuted, no one said "ah, good, they look appropriately ridiculous". they said "unbelievably awesome!" and "i think the comic version would look too cheesy. i think this one is cool".

"appropriately ridiculous" only came into play as defense against people who question the wisdom of turning something which was already designed to be ridiculous even more ridiculous.

these costumes were clearly redesigned to appeal to a wider audience than the smaller crowd which is already familiar with watchmen. joe blow will see these costumes not knowing anything about watchmen and will think that theyre cool. that cannot be denied, it will happen, and as evidenced on this board, has happened. im not pointing out anyone in particular, but theres at least a couple of people who come around here having only read as much of watchmen as wikipedia can tell them. its true.

and because these costumes were redesigned to appeal to a wider audience(because they were, dont try and kid yourselves), that raises the question "what else will be redesigned or rethought to appeal to a greater audience, and at what point does watchmen cease to be watchmen anymore due to such rethinking?"
 
but when these were first debuted, no one said "ah, good, they look appropriately ridiculous". they said "unbelievably awesome!" and "i think the comic version would look too cheesy. i think this one is cool".

"appropriately ridiculous" only came into play as defense against people who question the wisdom of turning something which was already designed to be ridiculous even more ridiculous.

these costumes were clearly redesigned to appeal to a wider audience than the smaller crowd which is already familiar with watchmen. joe blow will see these costumes not knowing anything about watchmen and will think that theyre cool. that cannot be denied, it will happen, and as evidenced on this board, has happened. im not pointing out anyone in particular, but theres at least a couple of people who come around here having only read as much of watchmen as wikipedia can tell them. its true.

and because these costumes were redesigned to appeal to a wider audience(because they were, dont try and kid yourselves), that raises the question "what else will be redesigned or rethought to appeal to a greater audience, and at what point does watchmen cease to be watchmen anymore due to such rethinking?"

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but when these were first debuted, no one said "ah, good, they look appropriately ridiculous". they said "unbelievably awesome!" and "i think the comic version would look too cheesy. i think this one is cool".
"Unbelievably awesome", when dealing with superhero movies, is more likely to mean "they did a good job designing the costumes" than "I would enjoy wearing that". And "I think the comic version..." supports mine (and others') arguments, so you shouldn't have said that.

"appropriately ridiculous" only came into play as defense against people who question the wisdom of turning something which was already designed to be ridiculous even more ridiculous.
It shouldn't have to be explained. But apparently it does.

these costumes were clearly redesigned to appeal to a wider audience than the smaller crowd which is already familiar with watchmen. joe blow will see these costumes not knowing anything about watchmen and will think that theyre cool. that cannot be denied, it will happen, and as evidenced on this board, has happened. im not pointing out anyone in particular, but theres at least a couple of people who come around here having only read as much of watchmen as wikipedia can tell them. its true.
Joe Blow can also read the GN and think the costumes are cool. I did. Didn't you? In any case it doesn't matter if people think the costumes are cool upon looking at them. As I've said many times, one shouldn't really notice that the costumes are ridiculous until the story makes that point. If it was meant to be blatant from the outset, Moore wouldn't have devoted whole conversations to making the point. It's a deconstruction, not a parody.

and because these costumes were redesigned to appeal to a wider audience(because they were, dont try and kid yourselves), that raises the question "what else will be redesigned or rethought to appeal to a greater audience,
Lots of things. And that's a good thing. A "Watchmen" movie designed to appeal to exactly the same audience would in essence be a powerpoint slideshow of the comic book. I certainly don't want that. It must be a FILM, and not a moving comic book. And it must be understandable from a 2009 perspective, with what our cultural perception of superheros is in the present day--nobody should have to think back to what the state of the 1980s comics industry was like.

and at what point does watchmen cease to be watchmen anymore due to such rethinking?"
I don't know, but it hasn't happened yet.
 
but when these were first debuted, no one said "ah, good, they look appropriately ridiculous". they said "unbelievably awesome!" and "i think the comic version would look too cheesy. i think this one is cool".

Well, now you're just putting words in people's mouths AND telling them exactly what they meant. "Unbelievably awesome" doesn't mean "Batman should wear that in his next movie". For a lot of people, "unbelievably awesome" means "Wow, they nailed the look and feel of the comics".

What do you want people to say? You want them to not be excited?

"appropriately ridiculous" only came into play as defense against people who question the wisdom of turning something which was already designed to be ridiculous even more ridiculous.

Again, stop assuming to know what other people think. The minute those pictures went up, my first thought was, "These look a little silly, which is perfect".

these costumes were clearly redesigned to appeal to a wider audience than the smaller crowd which is already familiar with watchmen. joe blow will see these costumes not knowing anything about watchmen and will think that theyre cool. that cannot be denied, it will happen, and as evidenced on this board, has happened. im not pointing out anyone in particular, but theres at least a couple of people who come around here having only read as much of watchmen as wikipedia can tell them. its true.

So what if people think they're "cool"? In the setting of Watchmen, superhero costumes were supposed to be seen as "cool" to the average person on the street (in the story, that is). The whole nation was caught up in superhero mania. It wasn't until later that people like Dreiberg looked back and felt he looked "silly".

That's kinda the point of the whole "silly costumes" thing. You're supposed to look at the superhero genre in general (not just the Watchmen characters) and recognize some of it's silliness. On the comic page, the Watchmen characters look no more "silly" than any other superheroes. So when the book makes the comment that they do look a little ridiculous, it applies not just to the characters in Watchmen, but to all superheroes.

If they came out in obviously silly costumes, that revelation would never occur. But if the characters appear like Batman, Spiderman, etc. and then we can step back and say, "Yeah, these guys are all a little silly". That's what Watchmen did in the first place.


and because these costumes were redesigned to appeal to a wider audience(because they were, dont try and kid yourselves), that raises the question "what else will be redesigned or rethought to appeal to a greater audience, and at what point does watchmen cease to be watchmen anymore due to such rethinking?"

Again, you assume to know why they altered the costumes (and the alterations are minor, don't kid yourself). The audience needs to recognize these characters as superheroes right off the bat, just like was necessary in Watchmen. So my modernizing the costumes a bit, the audience can immediately say, "Oh, these people are/were supheroes" and then focus on what's important - the story.

And the rest of your "if they do this, what next?" argument is just plain baseless. Slightly tweaking the costumes does not constitute a major change to the source material. Snyder's said that the ending will be in tact and every photo and bit of word of mouth we've heard has indicated that the movie will be very faithful. Show me one real piece of evidence that supports your fear of Snyder butchering the material and we can talk seriously about this.

And I feel the need to remind you that these characters are the "2nd generation" of crime fighters, so to speak. We've already seen that Dollar Bill's costume will be basically spandex. So obviously the first heroes will be less "modernized". Then the next generation will be a little more advanced, just like in the book.
 
Of course the costumes were designed to appeal to a wider audience.

JUST LIKE EVERY SUPERHERO MOVIE EVER MADE except maybe "SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE" and its ilk.

I mean...do you WANT people to go "Wow, that's a really bland and uninteresting and unrealistic concept for that Nite Owl guy"?
 
Yeah he's a great actor. I still weep that we didn't get Keanu Reeves, I think he would've been perfect for Manhattan.

I agree that Keanu probably could've played Manhattan quite well, but I think the movie is going to be a lot better off without him. Keanu isn't exactly that popular, and the last this movie needs is people making jokes such as: "whoa, like... a live body and, like, a dead body totally contain the same number of particles, dude. structurally, there's like, totally no difference, or whatever. whoa"
 
The audience has to know that Doc Manhattan is an emotionally withdrawn introvert who can't express himself like normal people. With Keanu Reeves, viewers would assume that was just him trying to act like every other character he's ever played.

No thanks.
 
Ror? PERFECT

Comedian? It's FINE

Ozy? It looks like Batman's costume in Batman & Robin with rubber nips

Silk? Looks hot

Owl? Let's be honest here, if they kept the original suit from the comic, it would look stupid as hell. Yes, worse than Batman's nip costume.
 
Everyone should stop trying to sway the nitpickers. You are wasting your time.

The costumes nailed the look of the book, without making them look so dated and awful that NO ONE wants to see the movie. They didn't make this movie for die hard Watchmen fans ONLY, because the damn thing wouldn't make more than a couple thousand dollars.

So yeah...enough with the stupid nitpicking. AND enough with these dumb threads. We have a thread on this already. Go vote that you hated the costumes and complain in there.
 
That's because you are a fool. The gimp mask was fantastic.

But it looked awful. If he wears it to hide his scar though i cant really argue against it, but as I recall he didnt wear that often anyway.
 
But it's fun to point out the obvious absurdities in their arguments.
 
But it's fun to point out the obvious absurdities in their arguments.

'obvious' and 'absurdities' wow

You gotta love the democratic debate here. Yeah, the arguments against the costumes are obviously absurd. Oh, and the arguments for the costumes are logical, succint and OBVIOUSLY excellent.

Gimme a break dude...
 
'obvious' and 'absurdities' wow

You gotta love the democratic debate here. Yeah, the arguments against the costumes are obviously absurd. Oh, and the arguments for the costumes are logical, succint and OBVIOUSLY excellent.

Gimme a break dude...
Well you aren't exactly making your side of the debate look great.
 
The film costumes reflect the cinematic superheroes the general public knows. Just like how the graphic novel costumes reflected the superheroes in comic books of the time. I see no reason to worry. I mean what were you expecting to see? This?
 
That's the thing. They look exactly like they were taking straight from a comic cover. Which putting into a realistic environment just looks silly. Imagine the X-Men movies had all their characters run around in spandex, as much as I love the costume in the comics, on screen it would've looked laughable.

have you read watchmen? because the only character that has the same outfit as the comic is Rorschach.
 

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