Creationism FTW

[Venomfan]

300,000 tons? Did they really weight that much? (I'm not being an ass, I'm asking)

No, the brontosaurus (real name: apatosaurus) weighed about 35 tons full-grown.

you could easily get babies on though

Doesn't it have to do with a prehensile tail. I could kick some @ss with a tail.

yah that doesnt make sense. why would we evolve and lose a tail, wouldnt a tail be freaking useful? i totally dont buy that whole "we used to have a tail" thing. plus we wouldnt be able to do some ahem things we need to do if we didnt have a tailbone, theres muscles attached to that thing that we need.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2005/06/22.html

Looks like an Art Bell thing.

Damn, I was hoping it was from some crappy homemade Reptoid-Rape Porn site.
Thanks though.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Damn, I was hoping it was from some crappy homemade Reptoid-Rape Porn site.
Thanks though.

Why were you hoping for that?

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Why were you hoping for that?

Are you familiar with David Icke?
If not, I'm not going to bother answering.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Then don't bother is the word of the day.

Damn earlier I got criticized for not knowing about tentacle rape and now my lack of reptoid rape knowledge is a deterent.

I had no idea my lack of knowledge on odd rape topics would be such a handicap here.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Tsss, no handicap. I just don't want to explain the scene for the 5,000th time.

 

[moraldeficiency]

gotcha, don't really think I want to know the scene if it involves that anyway. Thanks for looking out.

 

[The Lizard]

And just for the record, I'm not a rape fan - that was intended as a Reptoid alien abduction pic.


Of course the word "rape" used to mean "abduction", as in the classic artworks The Rape of Europa and The Rape of the Sabine Women, but I think we've digressed far enough from mocking those dag-gum creationists.

 

[Dew k. Mosi]

Has this thread at last run its course?

 

[jaguarr]

Yeah I was wondering how a dino could weigh the same as a mountian.

Well I stand up next to a bronto...chop it down with the edge of my hand....


jag

 

[The Lizard]

Has this thread at last run its course?

When the Reptilians get mentioned....yeah, that pretty much signals the end of things.

 

[Carcharodon]

you could easily get babies on though




yah that doesnt make sense. why would we evolve and lose a tail, wouldnt a tail be freaking useful? i totally dont buy that whole "we used to have a tail" thing. plus we wouldnt be able to do some ahem things we need to do if we didnt have a tailbone, theres muscles attached to that thing that we need.

Please, just stop. You clearly have little grasp of the concept of evolution. Not every mutation or new trait needs to be useful in order for it to be incorporated in a new species; evolution doesn't strive toward perfection. In fact, evolutionary theory says that there will never be a, "perfect," organism. We're no exception.

The loss of a tail obviously didn't hinder the apes when they diverged from the other primates. Did it help? Not necessarily. With the loss of a tail, those muscles you've pointed out as a new (or perhaps even vestigial) trait may have turned out to be useful.

You'll find that during embryonic development, every vertibrate has a tail, an extension of the spine that protrudes beyond the anus. What more proof do you need that we're more or less all connected on a genetic level? Hell, we all even look alike during embryonic development.

You do still have a, "tail;" it's simply a vestigial structure.

 

[sinewave]

We’ll then explore why the Bible—the “history book of the universe”—provides a reliable, eye-witness account of the beginning of all things.

who's this "reliable, eye-witness" they speak of?

 

[moraldeficiency]

Well I stand up next to a bronto...chop it down with the edge of my hand....


jag

Love that song

 

[ShadowBoxing]

who's this "reliable, eye-witness" they speak of?

God. Du'h

 

[The Chairman]

Theists who deny science are idiots. Theists that accept science and incorporate it into their spiritual beliefs aren't the ones that bomb abortion clinics or join the KKK. Science is fact, incorporating those facts into a belief makes a good combination IMO, which is what I am. I believe in evolution, but I don't believe I came from a monkey...which Science has yet to prove. Science says dinosaurs lived millions of years ago while man lived only thousands of years ago. Whose to say 1 day to create the earth isn't really 100 million years? Or it took 1 day to create all the animals...it could be another 100 million years in our time.

Damn straight.

 

[Lackey]

You'll find that during embryonic development, every vertibrate has a tail, an extension of the spine that protrudes beyond the anus. What more proof do you need that we're more or less all connected on a genetic level? Hell, we all even look alike during embryonic development.

If any biology professor read this, they would shake their head and curse the public school system that spawned such nonsense.

 

[Carcharodon]

Damn straight.

No, not damn straight. You all need to actually read some books on evolution and biology in general. Science has never claimed that, "we came from monkeys." All it says is that we shared a common ancestor.


Stop supporting ignorance. Before any of you debate on the subject of evolution any further, read a goddamned book. The misinformation presented by both sides is disgusting.

 

[Carcharodon]

If any biology professor read this, they would shake their head and curse the public school system that spawned such nonsense.

Explain, because I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about. If you look at early embryonic vertibrates, they all look more or less the same; the most striking common characteristic is the protruding extension of the spinal column, or the tail.

I reiterate: read a book. Unless, of course, you'd care to explain your comment.

BTW, the biology professor who graded my tests found the explanation and connection satisfactory.

 

[Kritish]

Theists who deny science are idiots. Theists that accept science and incorporate it into their spiritual beliefs aren't the ones that bomb abortion clinics or join the KKK. Science is fact, incorporating those facts into a belief makes a good combination IMO, which is what I am. I believe in evolution, but I don't believe I came from a monkey...which Science has yet to prove. Science says dinosaurs lived millions of years ago while man lived only thousands of years ago. Whose to say 1 day to create the earth isn't really 100 million years? Or it took 1 day to create all the animals...it could be another 100 million years in our time.

Do you even understand the concept of evolution? No one is claiming that humans descended from monkey’s, monkey’s and humans share a common ancestor from primates.

 

[Carcharodon]

Just to drive the point home:

If that isn't at least evidence of an evolutionary connection, then tell me what it is.

 

[Carcharodon]

http://users.erols.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/T/Taxonomy.html

Read: Recapitulation. Not all processes are identical during development, nor are the phases, though many are shared with ancestors.

 

[Lackey]

Explain, because I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about. If you look at early embryonic vertibrates, they all look more or less the same; the most striking characteristic is the protruding extension of the spinal column, or the tail.

I reiterate: read a book. Unless, of course, you'd care to explain your comment.

You won't find the argument you just used in any modern biology book. In fact, I have one of my college Vertebrate Zoology books on a shelf right next to me and it actually takes the time to debunk the whole "tail" nonsense. The book is over 10 years old, by the way, so your info is way outdated.

Saying every vertebrate had a tale is just as silly as saying every vertebrate had gills (those supposed "gills" are actually just folds).
The biogenetic law has been completely done away with in evolutionary theory.
http://8e.devbio.com/article.php?id=219

Seems like you're the one who needs to read a book. Keep yourself updated.

 

[sinewave]

God. Du'h

how's he a reliable eye-witness? you can't even prove he's real, let alone reliable.

 

[Carcharodon]

You won't find the argument you just used in any modern biology book. In fact, I have one of my college Vertebrate Zoology books on a shelf right next to me and it actually takes the time to debunk the whole "tail" nonsense. The book is over 10 years old, by the way, so your info is way outdated.

Saying every vertebrate had a tale is just as silly as saying every vertebrate had gills (those supposed "gills" are actually just folds).
The biogenetic law has been completely done away with in evolutionary theory.
http://8e.devbio.com/article.php?id=219

Seems like you're the one who needs to read a book. Keep yourself updated.

Funny, the book I'm studying from came out in 2005 and cites the same similarities I pointed out. Campbell's 7th Edition. The folds are called pharengeal slits, by the way, and I don't recall anybody saying that they were gills in all vertibrates.