Critics' Reviews: Discussion

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Harsh is probably the wrong term. I didn't like the flick but I didn't hate it as much as the reviewer did. My biggest problem with the reviewer is that I just plain didn't think that it was a very well thought out or writen review.

I'm actually looking forward to the critics tearing into the giant plotholes and the fact that the movie doesn't develop any of the charcters really and that it turns Wolverine into a wussy. And the fact that the 3rd act makes Batman Begins 3rd act look like a raving success.

Cue Batman Begins people telling me how I have bad taste in movies and how wrong I am.

 

[Project862006]

i think they went with the bullet because had the adamantium made him lose his memory he never would of went after sabertooth movie would of been 1hr in length lol

 

[Kanon]

I agree that review was a bit harsh but to me it is just as silly as a few of those on RT right now that say this movie caters to the intelligent movie going crowd, that it pays attention to details, and it develops its characters.

I haven't read those, but saying its public is the "intelligent movie going crowd" like if it were some masterpiece of psicological drama is going to the other end of the spectrum... It's a good slice and dice action movie, IMO very well done, with few holes, and low points (the main thing that bother me was how some characters disappeared and other appeared in the plot, like Gambit o Wade), the wirework (few good shots) and the SFX needed a little more work (I'm not demaing in this aspect at all, I hardly complain about SFX)

 

[sniktsnakt]

I hate the idea of the magic bullet. So . . . Logan's just walking around with bullet holes in his adamantium skull? I know that the bone would grow back, but the holes in the adamantium wouldn't be perfect circles, so the bone would constantly be trying to grow back around the twisted metal bits. Ouch.

Hmph. If they were going to get a bullet in his brain, they should have shot him under the chin. That's happened in the comics (even though he retained his memories afterwards). In the comics, adamantium bullets don't pierce his metal skull anyway--just knock him down hard.

Oh, well. Movie-verse. I just have to keep repeating that--movie-verse, movie-verse, movie-verse . . . .

 

[Nathan]

Say, is the silly part with Logan slicing the fire escape still in the Movie?

 

[Illuminata]

I agree that review was a bit harsh but to me it is just as silly as a few of those on RT right now that say this movie caters to the intelligent movie going crowd, that it pays attention to details, and it develops its characters.

Hey hey hey!!

Remember, The Last Stand was the "Thinking Man's Movie"

 

[chaseter]

Say, is the silly part with Logan slicing the fire escape still in the Movie?

HAHA I would have payed a lot of money to hear the director explain the scene to Hugh and watch him act out that scene...I would have died laughing and lol'd more than I did when I saw it in the movie. I have no idea how first off, the writers thought that scene would be awesome, and secondly that Hugh didn't go...hey wait a minute!

 

[Kanon]

Say, is the silly part with Logan slicing the fire escape still in the Movie?

Yes, trying to get Gambit...

 

[Nathan]

And is the fight still so stupidly cut and you wonder why Gambit interrupts the fight instead of hauling ass?

 

[Kanon]

And is the fight still so stupidly cut and you wonder why Gambit interrupts the fight instead of hauling ass?

I didn't notice problems with the edit... Gambit interrupts, I wouldn't have, but I can understand why he would take the chance to kill both men...

What it bothered me (and is a editing/planification issue) is how Gambit goes from being thrown aside to coming from far away in the roofs... Not sure if it's bad editing, choreography, whatever, or me just wasn't expecting it, but it felt weird.

 

[Nathan]

It's just really dumb. You'd think he'd at least wait till both are tired or almost kill each other off. Instead he breaks off the fight. And I also didn't like the action all that much. It was a bit over the top for my taste. The way Gambit jumped around or climbed the wall looks very fake. Like there's no weight to him.

 

[dark_b]

I didn't notice problems with the edit... Gambit interrupts, I wouldn't have, but I can understand why he would take the chance to kill both men...

What it bothered me (and is a editing/planification issue) is how Gambit goes from being thrown aside to coming from far away in the roofs... Not sure if it's bad editing, choreography, whatever, or me just wasn't expecting it, but it felt weird.

yeah. and if you noticed he was running pretty fast. so he was nto only going on the rooftop. he was going faaaaaaaaaar away . and then he runs and jumps down.

there is missing something .there is no way that someoen would film this.a deleted scene.

 

[Kanon]

It's just really dumb. You'd think he'd at least wait till both are tired or almost kill each other off. Instead he breaks off the fight. And I also didn't like the action all that much. It was a bit over the top for my taste. The way Gambit jumped around or climbed the wall looks very fake. Like there's no weight to him.

But someone like Gambit, I think is confident enough to think he can take them, if they are distracting each other... That's just my opinion.

The climbing didn't take me off... what it did was most of the other wirework, specially Agent Zero leap at the beginning and almost all of Sabretooth leaps in "four legs"

 

[Kanon]

yeah. and if you noticed he was running pretty fast. so he was nto only going on the rooftop. he was going faaaaaaaaaar away . and then he runs and jumps down.

there is missing something .there is no way that someoen would film this.a deleted scene.

Exactly how I felt. The way he was running was like he was coming from two block away at least.

 

[Nevaratoiel]

What it bothered me (and is a editing/planification issue) is how Gambit goes from being thrown aside to coming from far away in the roofs... Not sure if it's bad editing, choreography, whatever, or me just wasn't expecting it, but it felt weird.

That's really the only thing (apart from the [BLACKOUT]Gambit 'voice over'[/BLACKOUT] thing), that really bothered me.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I didn't like how they never really explained Gambit's powers. It just feels like he's a magic man.

 

[dark_b]

I didn't like how they never really explained Gambit's powers. It just feels like he's a magic man.

its a movie about mutants. come on

 

[Deaths Head II]

its a movie about mutants. come on

But they could have at least said he charged things with kinetic energy. An average member of the audience will be a little confused why he's able to make cards fly, explode things with his staff, climb walls with his staff, jump 50 feet in the air, Neo walk on walls, helicopter ride down with his staff, etc. If they at least knew he could charge objects with kinetic energy and manipulate the energy, they would have some type of clue how he's doing all this.

I already had several people ask me what Gambit's power actually is. In the movie it just seems like he's magic.

 

[Nevaratoiel]

But they could have at least said he charged things with kinetic energy. An average member of the audience will be a little confused why he's able to make cards fly, explode things with his staff, climb walls with his staff, jump 50 feet in the air, Neo walk on walls, helicopter ride down with his staff, etc. If they at least knew he could charge objects with kinetic energy and manipulate the energy, they would have some type of clue how he's doing all this.

I already had several people ask me what Gambit's power actually is. In the movie it just seems like he's magic.

He is magic!

 

[dark_b]

But they could have at least said he charged things with kinetic energy. An average member of the audience will be a little confused why he's able to make cards fly, explode things with his staff, climb walls with his staff, jump 50 feet in the air, Neo walk on walls, helicopter ride down with his staff, etc. If they at least knew he could charge objects with kinetic energy and manipulate the energy, they would have some type of clue how he's doing all this.

I already had several people ask me what Gambit's power actually is. In the movie it just seems like he's magic.

IMO there is no point in explaining a power from a cameo gambit.
sorry this is just pointless.
if a guy will complain that there was no explanation then i dont know how can he survive wolverines story.

 

[Deaths Head II]

IMO there is no point in explaining a power from a cameo gambit.
sorry this is just pointless.
if a guy will complain that there was no explanation then i dont know how can he survive wolverines story.

There is no point explaining a "cameo" that lasts about 15 minutes? 15 minutes of a guy doing whatever the hell he wants and the audience can't even find out how? Not even a 1 second explanation of "he charges things with kinetic energy"?

Yeah, sure sounds pointless to me.

And the guys didn't complain, they were generally confused. They wanted to know.

 

[Kanon]

Yeah. Besides, there wasn't much to explain, the guy made thing explode and was agile... big deal, we have seen worst **** in the movies... hell, bradley's power was more confusing...

 

[Deaths Head II]

Yeah. Besides, there wasn't much to explain, the guy made thing explode and was agile... big deal, we have seen worst **** in the movies... hell, bradley's power was more confusing...

He didn't just make things explode and act agile. He made cards fly and made them able to hurt people. He was able to climb walls with just the stick ends, slow his descent by twirling his staff, etc.

If I watched the movie without knowledge of the comics I would probably assume Gambit has at least 4 different powers.

 

[dark_b]

did they explain any power in this movie?

 

[Deaths Head II]

did they explain any power in this movie?

No, but Gambit's was the least self-explanatory.