Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead

[Darthphere]

I remember when I stole my dad's truck when he wouldn't buy me cigarettes. Those were the days...

 

[Poetic Chaos]

If the kid obeys the cops, this doesn't happen. End of story. Kids fault.

 

[SilentWarriorZ]

Its a Funny world we live in

 

[Charlie Boy]

This never would have happened to George Bluth.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

If the kid obeys the cops, this doesn't happen. End of story. Kids fault.

While I agree the majority of the blame is on the kid for leading them on a chase, hitting their vehicles, and reving the engine up once surrounded I believe the police should have shown more restraint. Once they had him surrounded it would have been fairly easy to break out his window and drag his dumb behind to jail. I know police don't fire warning shots but I think one would have ended this situation once he realized his life was literally on the line. Afrter all this was just a kid going through a rough time and probably could have benefited from some mental health counseling

 

[redhawk23]

If the kid obeys the cops, this doesn't happen. End of story. Kids fault.

Was the force used appropriate though?

Even if they decided the kid was a threat to the public, police chases pretty much never end in shootings, unless the person being chased pulls a weapon. What the hell happened to spike strips? They also specifically mentioned that the truck was at a stop at the time, having hit a tree.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Ya that's what doesn't make sense to me Redhawk, Even if he was reving the engine he was basically immobilized and had no weapons so I don't see why 6 shots directly at him were necessary. Bust the window out and drag him down to jail and let him live and learn the hard way

 

[Darthphere]

How is revving an engine thats on a you know a truck that has 4 wheels equal "basically immobilized". Oh, when were on a cop witch hunt.

 

[Darthphere]

"Yeah he was waving a gun around but couldn't they have tasered him or something? Excessive force!"

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

How is revving an engine thats on a you know a truck that has 4 wheels equal "basically immobilized". Oh, when were on a cop witch hunt.

He hit a tree, Most vehicles that are surrounded and have been in a wreck don't pose much of a danger to anyone

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

If the kid obeys the cops, this doesn't happen. End of story. Kids fault.

That's a nice, tidy black and white world you live in there. It's an amazing train of thought to say no matter what you are going through mentally you need to obey authority. It's not that easy to switch on and off. Everyone, even you, has probably gone through a similar situation where you have been so angry, sad, depressed, whatever emotion you want to attach to it, that taking orders or trying to listen to reason or logic has been difficult for you considering your mental state. Regardless I see nothing that should involve a gun being fired at this kid SIX times unless I missed the part where he pulled out a gun himself.

 

[Godzilla2000]

It then rapidly backed through the grass, narrowly missing a pedestrian at one point, the video showed.

This is a very telling statement from a posted article right here. What would we all think if that out of control son had hit and killed that pedestrian? Something tells me this kid's freak out was not an isolated incident. I mean flipping out because his dad wouldn't buy him cigarettes? There's more to this story than meets the eye and I truly believe if this kid were still alive his irrationality would in the future have caused a civilian casualty from his reckless behavior. It's sad this kid did not get the help he needed. It's clear to me he was experimenting with something because such destructive driving is not something well adjusted people do.

 

[Tropico]

This is a very telling statement from a posted article right here. What would we all think if that out of control son had hit and killed that pedestrian? Something tells me this kid's freak out was not an isolated incident. I mean flipping out because his dad wouldn't buy him cigarettes? There's more to this story than meets the eye and I truly believe if this kid were still alive his irrationality would in the future have caused a civilian casualty from his reckless behavior. It's sad this kid did not get the help he needed. It's clear to me he was experimenting with something because such destructive driving is not something well adjusted people do.

I don't know if people have ignored the updated articles or don't see anything bad in what you commented and the other fact that he went through a one way street against traffic. I'm not saying that he deserved to be killed but I can see why he was considered dangerous (since cars are as dangerous as guns, according to some people ) and why the situation escalated as it did. It wasn't just a young adult throwing a harmless tantrum for not having his way like a kid in a toy store.

 

[R0rschach]

However tragic. How is this a surprise, seriously?
In a country that has as many guns as it has people.
How did/do you think cops will act?
Anyone with half a brain will do whatever the cops tell them to do.
They ask you to jump. You ask them, how high?
Don't mess around with law enforcement that can/will shoot you on a whim.

 

[Godzilla2000]

I don't think in this case they shot the kid on a whim though. I mean he luckily missed that innocent bystander, which does indicate that if not immobilized he could have caused a serious accident. When you leave the motor running on a vehicle and your tires skidding out that indicates intent to flee to a cop. The rational mind would have turned the ignition off and put their hands up in surrender. While tragic I think the cop felt shooting to immobilize the son was the only option they had especially considering how recklessly the kid was driving. And I need to reiterate he almost struck down a pedestrian. It's a lucky thing that at that time the campus wasn't teeming with students or we would have been reading a completely different story about an uncontrolable kid plowing down students on their way to class.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

However tragic. How is this a surprise, seriously?
In a country that has as many guns as it has people.
How did/do you think cops will act?
Anyone with half a brain will do whatever the cops tell them to do.
They ask you to jump. You ask them, how high?
Don't mess around with law enforcement that can/will shoot you on a whim.

Pretty sad that we need to have that attitude when a common motto used for law enforcement is "To protect and to serve" when this incident is more like "Comply or be shot at six times."

 

[KevanG]

Like Robocop says: Dead or alive. You're coming with me.

 

[Tropico]

Pretty sad that we need to have that attitude when a common motto used for law enforcement is "To protect and to serve" when this incident is more like "Comply or be shot at six times."

I don't see how that's all you can get from the 3 articles regarding the situation.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

While I don't think the kid was a saint by any means, I do believe they could have busted out his window and drug his butt to jail and then hopefully they could have got him set up with the mental health counseling he so desperately needed.

 

[charl_huntress]

idk....the best piece of advice I ever got was from a police officer who had been involved in an officer involved shooting where he killed the guy. His words, "If an officer has his/her gun drawn then you need to understand deadly force is being considered."

 

[Grievous]

I'm not saying parents should let their kids get away with everything, but shouldn't getting the cops involved been more of a last resort to get the truck back?

 

[the last son]

Give cops rubber bullets. They are supposed to uphold the law, not be judge, jury and executioner. Only swat should have real bullets for emergencies.

 

[Dispatch Ninja]

Give cops rubber bullets. They are supposed to uphold the law, not be judge, jury and executioner. Only swat should have real bullets for emergencies.

This is idiotic. Cops get shot at all the time on routine traffic stops. We're just going to give them rubber bullets to protect themselves/the public with now? Criminals would have a field day.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

I don't see how that's all you can get from the 3 articles regarding the situation.

I didn't say that is all I got from the article. I was making a general statement. Too many police officers still seem to have a trigger happy attitude these days. I can appreciate the fact that they put their lives on the line daily in different situations but still it is sad that we keep hearing these stories of what is seemingly excessive force in these situations where a gun shouldn't even really be drawn.

 

[Tex]

The dash cam video from the police car is online.