Daredevil Daredevil General Discussion Thread

[Mike Murdock]

As a lawyer, I hope it's solid. But there are a lot of elements to a Daredevil show. It doesn't have to be Law and Order (I would suggest The Practice, which I think may be a closer fit, but I don't think people really remember it). It's gotta do everything well, but I think it should focus on making the sum greater than the parts rather than working on excellent components by themselves.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I just realized the other day, daredevil will be the first hero in the MCU who's secret identity isn't known by the public.

 

[Steve Holt]

I'm really hoping there's foresight to cast Moon Knight for cameos, think of the possible cameos,
need a lawyer? Murdock or Nelson or Walters,
need a cab driver? Jake Lochley,
need rich business people for background? Steven Grant or Danny Rand,
need a merc or soldier for flashbacks? Frank Castle or Marc Spector or Frenchie or Bushman
need a P.I. or Journalist? Jessica Jones or Ben Urich
need a thug for a flashback? young Wilson Fisk

the possibilities of interactions are limitless

 

[Mike Murdock]

I just realized the other day, daredevil will be the first hero in the MCU who's secret identity isn't known by the public.

Yeah, I think that's the point of these stories. Although I think it's just Daredevil since Luke Cage and Jessica Jones obviously don't hide their identities (not sure about Danny Rand). The secret identity is a big part of superheroes and Marvel finally has an opportunity to explore that side.

 

[Dark Raven]

Karen Page will soon make sure that DD joins the rest of the Marvel heroes in having a public identity.

 

[marcvader]

I'm really hoping there's foresight to cast Moon Knight for cameos, think of the possible cameos,
need a lawyer? Murdock or Nelson or Walters,
need a cab driver? Jake Lochley,
need rich business people for background? Steven Grant or Danny Rand,
need a merc or soldier for flashbacks? Frank Castle or Marc Spector or Frenchie or Bushman
need a P.I. or Journalist? Jessica Jones or Ben Urich
need a thug for a flashback? young Wilson Fisk

the possibilities of interactions are limitless

"Ohhh, yyeahhhh.", Rocket Raccoon.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Karen Page will soon make sure that DD joins the rest of the Marvel heroes in having a public identity.

To be fair, in Born Again, only the Kingpin found out. And, for what it's worth, Heather Glenn drunkenly blabbed his name even before that. But yeah, I would say that Daredevil's identity should become public before it's all over (my argument is he should be an open hero in season 4, should the show last that long).

 

[Six]

So, any recent set pictures? Security must be pretty tight. Any idea how long they'll be filming for?

 

[Dark Raven]

To be fair, in Born Again, only the Kingpin found out. And, for what it's worth, Heather Glenn drunkenly blabbed his name even before that. But yeah, I would say that Daredevil's identity should become public before it's all over (my argument is he should be an open hero in season 4, should the show last that long).

How will he practise law anymore after that though? He can't just be a full-time vigilante/ superhero. Part of DD's character is the fact that he is a lawyer. I wouldn't want to lose that aspect. I definitely want the show to have a strong legal feel about it still so that it isn't just like Arrow.

 

[Six]

How will he practise law anymore after that though? He can't just be a full-time vigilante/ superhero. Part of DD's character is the fact that he is a lawyer. I wouldn't want to lose that aspect. I definitely want the show to have a strong legal feel about it still so that it isn't just like Arrow.

Nothing short of the cast and crew getting lobotomized could make this just like Arrow.

 

[Dark Raven]

Nothing short of the cast and crew getting lobotomized could make this just like Arrow.

Arrow is about a masked vigilante though, and the tone is rather dark and gritty. If DD lost its legal aspect, and he did his super heroics full time, then the show would only really concentrate on the action plots and any romantic subplots, which would make it similar to Arrow's format.

 

[zebkillgrave]

Yeah, I think that's the point of these stories. Although I think it's just Daredevil since Luke Cage and Jessica Jones obviously don't hide their identities (not sure about Danny Rand). The secret identity is a big part of superheroes and Marvel finally has an opportunity to explore that side.

I agree (new poster here), it seems like with SHIELD gone, there won't be the same avenue towards government sponsored or rich heroes, and we can get into the lives of these guys who would actually have problems if they're identities were public. Classic superhero identity problems, if you will.

 

[Loki882]

I'm not real big on the secret identity thing myself. It leads to a lot of annoying/poor/cliche stories. "Oh my, his/her identity might be exposed, wacky hijinks ensue." Plus they tend to make the heroes/co-workers/loved ones look like clueless idiots for not figuring it out and often have to really contrive things so that the ID is not exposed (thank you MOS for ditching the inane Superman/Clark/Lois love triangle that makes her look like a moron." That's one of the things that I like about a lot of Marvel, and the MCU. Secret ID's aren't really a big thing, it makes things more interesting.

 

[Paradox1]

Elliot Ness untouchables were men of high morale character with no families or ties beyond the job. They couldn't be bought or blackmailed. This is what a secret identity is for heroes with something to loose.

 

[Mike Murdock]

How will he practise law anymore after that though? He can't just be a full-time vigilante/ superhero. Part of DD's character is the fact that he is a lawyer. I wouldn't want to lose that aspect. I definitely want the show to have a strong legal feel about it still so that it isn't just like Arrow.

The comic has explored this. Actually, they explored it at least twice. The first was when he lost his license during the events in Born Again. The second is the recent run as a public superhero.

It's that first time I'd draw from for inspiration. After losing his license, Matt and Karen set up a free legal clinic where Matt would act as a "ghost lawyer" and act behind the scenes for other people to protect their rights. "Ghost lawyering" as they called it is more accurately referred to as "unauthorized practice of law" and is illegal, but this is a fact the comics didn't shy away from. The legal clinic was an opportunity for Matt to really be part of Hell's Kitchen, as the clinic seemed to be a combination law center and homeless shelter. It was Matt at his most altruistic and I think it worked quite well.

 

[Loki882]

Elliot Ness untouchables were men of high morale character with no families or ties beyond the job. They couldn't be bought or blackmailed. This is what a secret identity is for heroes with something to loose.

Not really.

 

[metaphysician]

Why would the absence of SHIELD make secret IDs *more* necessary? Just because SHIELD is gone doesn't mean the government is going to randomly decide "all superhumans must be arrested, mwahaha!"

 

[Shikamaru]

Actually if anything, the absence of SHIELD would make it easier for a superhero to hide their secret identity because there would be no one keeping tabs on them.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Well if AoS is any indication, shield won't be out of commission for too long.

 

[Paradox1]

Not really.

A secret identity is for the people behind the hero. They call Daredevil the man without fear,but threaten his love ones, he will know fear.

 

[Shikamaru]

Well if AoS is any indication, shield won't be out of commission for too long.

Probably not the case, since the show establishes Coulson has a very different vision of what SHIELD should be and Fury tells him to "do it right this time". I'm assuming we won't see the new SHIELD repeat the mistakes of the old one, including the NSA-like monitoring of people.

 

[Marvel Spider]

Found this first look at Charlie as Matt!

http://instagram.com/p/rSQieLx-f0/

 

[marcvader]

Finally!

 

[Sterling Archer]

Looks great.

 

[Shikamaru]

Looks fantastic. I'm so pumped for this.