Dawn of the Planet of the Apes - Part 1

[The Endless]

Has this been posted yet?



It's genuinely ****ing terrifying.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

A while ago yeah.

 

[The Endless]

Ahhh ok no worries.

But yea, there is just something so horrifying about that. It just distills the whole concept of apes turning against us into one moment.

 

[TX85]

I love that clip

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I love that clip

I don't know whether to be terrified or in awe. The scene is legitimately horrifying and the CGI is about as amazing as it gets. Looks like they made the right choice with Matt Reeves to follow up the original. The first is very good, but this looks like a whole new level.

 

[Marvolo]

I didn't see this posted. When Caesar yells "GO!!!" Holy hell that's scary!

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[Golgo-13]

I refuse to look at any clips for this movie. I want everything to be a surprise. The only footage i've seen is the drunk Koba clip while watching something on tv, and the trailer….hope to keep it that way.

 

[TX85]

I've only seen the two theatrical trailers and that clip with the ape and two guys,I want to be surprised too,Haven't seen much footage or read any spoilers

 

[kedrell]

I wonder if the ALZ-113 virus will also be used to explain why Man ends up regressing in intelligence to the point of being no more than a dumb animal himself to line up with the Heston movie.

 

[jmc]

So I've done some googling as to whether this series is meant to link to the previous one and it is indeed the case, at least it was initially for Rise. I honestly think it would be a mistake to go the route of tying things back to the original, this series should be given the chance to expand in its own way without having to rely on a fixed ending.

 

[kedrell]

There's plenty of wiggle room in the 2000 year history between this film and the Heston one, I reckon.

 

[Marvolo]

I wonder if the ALZ-113 virus will also be used to explain why Man ends up regressing in intelligence to the point of being no more than a dumb animal himself to line up with the Heston movie.

No need to involve the virus in that. That would happen without it. You take away accumulated knowledge (compulsory education, books, and the internet), completely destroy our culture and our society, drive us nearly to extinction, enslave us , selectively force breed us and treat the new-borns like animals from the time of their birth (denying them language and higher education only rearing them to be pack animals and side shows) and you'd get about what you see in the Heston movies. It's already been proven that if a human doesn't utilize language skills and develop a vocabulary before a certain point the brain loses the ability to form complex vocabulary and use language almost entirely and this has a significant effect on cognitive abilities. You can create a feral human pretty easily if you can influence them from birth, and it's been documented. Our developments are a lot more fragile than people realize.

 

[Lord]

A thread about the 2001 film's ending was made and closed right away, seems like an interesting thing to talk about, i guess it can only be done in this thread, Ultron-5 hasn't posted anything here yet, but would anyone care to shed some lights on the subject? Was there any novel explaining what hapened after?

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

I saw that guy who hates new threads complained so it got shut, I wanted to discuss it, it was a really strange ending

 

[Broseph44]

A thread about the 2001 film's ending was made and closed right away, seems like an interesting thing to talk about, i guess it can only be done in this thread, Ultron-5 hasn't posted anything here yet, but would anyone care to shed some lights on the subject? Was there any novel explaining what hapened after?

I saw that guy who hates new threads complained so it got shut, I wanted to discuss it, it was a really strange ending

That was me and I don't hate new threads, but that can easily be discussed here in the dawn thread. For example if we wanna discuss something JP related we can discuss it in the Jurassic World thread. No need to start a brand new thread for each individual film, and with such a poor way of beginning the thread as well. did you see what he wrote? This was his thread starter

"That ending makes no sense whatsoever. It still confuses me."

Oh what a brilliant and well thought out start to a discussion come on guys even a mod closed the thread because they realized it wasn't necessary. Stuff like that can easily be talked about here, or if he started a whole thread for that particular film he could have had written out a more compelling and more well written first post to spark the conversation. Rather then "it made no sense it confuses me.". How about listing some reasons? A more intellectually written start to the thread could have made it better. Don't deny that.

 

[kedrell]

No need to involve the virus in that. That would happen without it. You take away accumulated knowledge (compulsory education, books, and the internet), completely destroy our culture and our society, drive us nearly to extinction, enslave us , selectively force breed us and treat the new-borns like animals from the time of their birth (denying them language and higher education only rearing them to be pack animals and side shows) and you'd get about what you see in the Heston movies. It's already been proven that if a human doesn't utilize language skills and develop a vocabulary before a certain point the brain loses the ability to form complex vocabulary and use language almost entirely and this has a significant effect on cognitive abilities. You can create a feral human pretty easily if you can influence them from birth, and it's been documented. Our developments are a lot more fragile than people realize.

Hmm, I guess that's why even when they were said to be merely animal like in their level of intelligence in the Heston movie, they still managed to realize they needed to make themselves some clothes.

But I still have a hard time believing a feral human could not be taught as Zera complained in the first film that she had repeatedly tried and failed to teach humans. If all she needed to do was get and teach a human from infancy to prove her theories then it's rather hard to believe she wouldn't have thought of that already. But then Nova in the 2nd film managed to speak so who knows.

 

[Lord]

Can we stop talking about why that thread was deleted and actualy discuss the end of that film? The main character probably traveled some more 3000 years or something like that, but why was that evil chimpanze then considered a savior? And what hapened to Wahlber's charater then? Was it ever answered in a novel or comic?

 

[Broseph44]

Not that I know of no.

 

[Warhammer]

That was me and I don't hate new threads, but that can easily be discussed here in the dawn thread. For example if we wanna discuss something JP related we can discuss it in the Jurassic World thread. No need to start a brand new thread for each individual film, and with such a poor way of beginning the thread as well. did you see what he wrote? This was his thread starter

"That ending makes no sense whatsoever. It still confuses me."

Oh what a brilliant and well thought out start to a discussion come on guys even a mod closed the thread because they realized it wasn't necessary. Stuff like that can easily be talked about here, or if he started a whole thread for that particular film he could have had written out a more compelling and more well written first post to spark the conversation. Rather then "it made no sense it confuses me.". How about listing some reasons? A more intellectually written start to the thread could have made it better. Don't deny that.

Whoa, overreaction of the century here.

 

[Octoberist]

Whoa, overreaction of the century here.

Is that a new category for the Hype Awards?

 

[Marvolo]

Can we stop talking about why that thread was deleted and actualy discuss the end of that film? The main character probably traveled some more 3000 years or something like that, but why was that evil chimpanze then considered a savior? And what hapened to Wahlber's charater then? Was it ever answered in a novel or comic?

Even Tim Burton has admitted that he has no idea how that ending works or what it means. He just thought it was a cool "oh ****!" moment.

 

[Broseph44]

Whoa, overreaction of the century here.

Is that a new category for the Hype Awards?

Hysterical Meanwhile a mod immediately closed his thread. So I guess I wasn't the only one that thought it was pointless haha.

 

[Octoberist]

I'm a funny dude!

 

[titansupes]

Finally saw Rise tonight. Liked it a lot, mainly for the Caesar/ape scenes. The human story was fairly weak, I thought.

 

[Warhammer]

Is that a new category for the Hype Awards?