Daylight Saving Time

[Doctor Evo]

Okay, since you seem to have missed your own redirection, let me explain.

You use a catchphrase to dismiss someone else's problem as "first world" while living in the first world, with all the luxuries of the first world, and doing absolutely nothing to help the rest of the world. It's a trite and tired phrase, much like YOLO. And while irony was meant to originally mean the opposite of an intended word or meaning it has spread to become more generically the opposite of anything, or in your case, complaining that someone is suffering a first world problem while you yourself are enjoying the benefits of first world life. In other words, you missed that your own first world problem is living in it.

First of all, I didn't complain that someone was suffering a first-world problem. I was pointing out that complaining about this particular problem (redmarvel's...not DST in general) is absurd. Of course, she was probably being just a bit facetious - as was I.

Secondly, there is literally NO irony in this scenario. According to your reasoning, telling somebody that they should be thankful for anything is inherently ironic, so long as both parties are enjoying the same benefit or experience. Do you really not see the problem here?

It would be like me telling a fellow suburbanite that it's a bit silly to complain about their refrigerator being full, or, you know...having too many electronic devices, or a multistory dwelling. (Oh, wait...that's exactly what just ****ing happened.)

You clearly have no idea how to use the word.

And my point was as you so clearly stated, redirection only works when it isn't painfully obvious. This thread is about DST not first world problems which despite your assertion being a first world problem, still has very real problems of people you know, dying from it.

I'm not sure how or why you keep failing to comprehend that my original comment was very specifically targeted towards redmarvel's post and not DST in general. I thought I had made that abundantly clear.

My post also didn't constitute a redirection - at least, not within the context of how I originally used the word. I wasn't trying to divert an argument in order to achieve some sort of gain (or, in our case, to avoid having to answer a fairly simple question). That's a relatively important difference.

 

[Imjenn]

The only thing that bothers me is working during it...turning my 12 hour shift into a 13 hour shift...ugh

 

[KevanG]

That would be a pain.

Subvisser? Animorphs?

 

[Imjenn]

Good catch KevanG. Exactly

 

[zeroapoc]

If we didn't have Daylight savings, on December 21st 2012, (Winter Solstice), the sun would rise at 6:17 am and set at 3:32 pm. And I thought it was annoying when the sun would set at 4:32 pm.

Daylight savings time isn't in effect in December. So that's incorrect.

 

[zeroapoc]

Seriously, you know all you people who supposedly hate daylight savings time would be crying like children if it started getting dark at 3pm in December.

See previous post.

 

[KevanG]

I thought that it sounded familiar.

 

[Imjenn]

It was the only thing I could think of. I'm sure I'll get a better one soon enough

 

[KevanG]

You can always put 'KevanG is awesome'.

Just a thought...

 

[Imjenn]

What do I get out of that?

 

[KevanG]

The respect and adoration of the Hype*?

*Hype may only be including a single user.

 

[Imjenn]

That one actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks KevanG, I needed that.

On topic, when DST goes the other way, it's great working the graveyard shift. When it goes from 1:59 to 3:00 most hospitals cheer haha

 

[KevanG]

No problem.

 

[redmarvel]

Gotta love first-world problems.

"Oh, I have to reset the time on ALL of my clocks and electronic devices. And on multiple floors!"

OK, granted it's a small problem but it's also an unnecessary aggravation added to the list of all the problems I have to deal with in a day.

However, let's just put it in perspective, shall we?

The population of Canada is 33,476,688 (in 2011), of which the rough number of adults between 20 and 65 is 18,400,000. Let's say that only 1/3 of those adults need to spend a half hour to change their clocks (as I do). We're still talking over 6 million people in Canada having to use up half an hour of their lives that they could have spent doing other things. 3 million hours lost for a time change, twice a year, in Canada.

And Teelie is right about accidents as this article from http://www.livescience.com/13183-daylight-savings-time-affect-health.html shows:

"A 1996 study published in the New England Journal of Medicine showed an 8 percent increase in motor vehicle accidents on the Monday following the time change. A 2001 study from Johns Hopkins and Stanford universities also showed an increase on the Monday following the change.

But those findings have not been universal – a Finnish study published last year did not find a similar increase there."

"A study Barnes led in 2009 looked at the severity of workplace accidents in miners on the Monday following the time change. The researchers found a 5.7 percent increase in injuries and a 67.6 percent increase in work days lost to injuries. "

"a 2008 Swedish study that showed an increase of about 5 percent in heart attacks on the three weekdays following the spring time shift."

So, Doctor Evo, you're right its just a "small" first world problem - but it has repercussions.

 

[Doctor Evo]

OK, granted it's a small problem but it's also an unnecessary aggravation added to the list of all the problems I have to deal with in a day.

However, let's just put it in perspective, shall we?

The population of Canada is 33,476,688 (in 2011), of which the rough number of adults between 20 and 65 is 18,400,000. Let's say that only 1/3 of those adults need to spend a half hour to change their clocks (as I do). We're still talking over 6 million people in Canada having to use up half an hour of their lives that they could have spent doing other things. 3 million hours lost for a time change, twice a year, in Canada.

And Teelie is right about accidents as this article from http://www.livescience.com/13183-daylight-savings-time-affect-health.html shows:

"A 1996 study published in the New England Journal of Medicine showed an 8 percent increase in motor vehicle accidents on the Monday following the time change. A 2001 study from Johns Hopkins and Stanford universities also showed an increase on the Monday following the change.

But those findings have not been universal – a Finnish study published last year did not find a similar increase there."

"A study Barnes led in 2009 looked at the severity of workplace accidents in miners on the Monday following the time change. The researchers found a 5.7 percent increase in injuries and a 67.6 percent increase in work days lost to injuries. "

"a 2008 Swedish study that showed an increase of about 5 percent in heart attacks on the three weekdays following the spring time shift."

So, Doctor Evo, you're right its just a "small" first world problem - but it has repercussions.

I think you missed my point.

 

[Anubis]

Why do you have so many clocks is the real question?

I got my watch and that's it. Everything else is my phone and the clock on my cable box which changes automatically.

 

[redmarvel]

Why do you have so many clocks is the real question?

I got my watch and that's it. Everything else is my phone and the clock on my cable box which changes automatically.

The clock in my bedroom wakes me up in time to get ready for work.
The clock on my oven helps me know when to make food and take stuff out.
The clock on my microwave lets me know when the power has gone out and the clock on the oven is not to be trusted.
The clock on my coffee maker has the coffee ready for me when I come downstairs so I don't kill my son's pet rabbits.
The clock in my den tells me when to leave for work and when to start getting my son ready for bed.
The clock in my son's room tells me when time for reading is up and when it's time for lights out.
The clock in my office is the only one that's not truly usefull... until the power goes out and we need to know what time it is.

Oh and I forgot two clocks (thankfully hubby took care of these two):
The clock on the programmable thermostat to turn down the heat after we've left for work and to turn it back up an hour before we get home.
The clock on the programmable hall lights to turn on when we get and turn off when we go to bed - so we can see where we're going when it's still dark out but we need to be up.

 

[Anubis]

Half that could be taken out of the equation by having a smart phone.

 

[KevanG]

I use my phone to just keep my time all the time. I haven't worn a watch in years.

 

[Anubis]

I wear a watch cuz my watch looks cool.

 

[BestGirl]

Half that could be taken out of the equation by having a smart phone.

Or owning a watch.