DCEU or Star Wars Prequels?

[writer0327]

Thus far is the DCEU better or worse than the SW prequel films? TO tell the truth, I'm having a hard time deciding.

I know the Prequels are pretty terrible, although strangely enough they have better RT scores than the 3 DCEU films thus far, which I don't understand. They should be neck and neck with the DCEU. Who's a more annoying character: JarJar Binks or Lex Luthor? Which moment was worst: Vader's Turn or "Martha"? The sad thing is that you can fairly make the comparisons. The writing and directing is bad throughout all 6 films, with the lone exception of some of Man of Steel.

 

[Batmannerism]

Okay, I'm going with DCEU.

Both sets of films do disservice to beloved characters, but the Prequels make our favorite Galaxy far far away a pretty lame place to be. To be honest I wasn't all that thrilled about Force awakens either.

B v S managed to make my favorite superheroes into *******s, and SS was just awful. Not sure what JL will be like but it looks to be at least more enjoyable than the prequels were.

The clincher for me is that the DCEU still has Man of Steel, which I enjoyed more than all the Star Wars prequels combined - and is a pretty good superman film, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

While both fell way short of their potential, and it's tough to get past the initial disappointment, I still enjoy both very much.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Phantom Menace was my first Star Wars movie and I enjoyed it for what it was, in part because I had no attachment to the original trilogy. I liked visuals, music and the final battle was epic. Even Jar-Jar and goonguns or what's their name were unable to ruin my experience. Of course, today it's pretty obvious the storytelling is incoherent, the characters are shallow, the kid Vader is annoying, and don't get me started on gungoons and JJB... All of that reminds me of Batman v Superman. I enjoyed both films, but I can see why many didn't. Or even hate them with passion.

Episodes 2 and 3 were enjoyable too when they came out. But today - mostly for laughs. In DCEU, I was bored to death by Man of Steel and I HATE Suicide Squad.

So I'll give to the prequels.

 

[BH/HHH]

Really?

 

[sycamore]

I'd rather watch a 24 hour marathon of "Saved by the Bell" than one minute of the Prequels.

 

[titansupes]

Oof. This is a tough choice. A lot of aspects of the DCEU are better than the PT counter parts (acting in general, cinematography), but the PT doesn't have anything as outright incompetent as SS...

 

[FunkMiller]

Prequels are worse, as we only have one canon Star Wars universe.

No matter how poor DCEU is, there are other movies, other stories, other iterations.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

the best of the prequels (which isn't saying much) was imo Ep II, with some truly enjoyable scenes, and a lot more horrible ones. but those few enjoyable scenes, buth in quality as in quantity, are better than anything the DCEU gave us so far. so, I'd say, I vote for the prequels

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Prequels easily. ROTS was better than any of the DCEU, and BvS and SS were worse than any of the prequels.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I'm a huge fan of both, with Revenge of the Sith being my favorite of all 6 SW films. I think that the Star Wars PT has the edge. For now, the DCEU doesn't have any sequences as epic as the last 1/2 of ROTS. Of course, with the JL on the way, that could change.

 

[DA_Champion]

I prefer the prequels.

Can a moderator add a poll option?

Ranking them:

The Phantom Menace
Man of Steel
The Revenge of the Sith
Suicide Squad
*****steep dropoff ****
The Attack of the Clones
Batman v Superman

 

[Mandon Knight]

Its not even close, this thread just WTF

DCEU every time

 

[jmc]

This is a bit like being asked whether you would prefer to have your hand or your foot cut off.

 

[Erzengel]

Prequels. ROTS > MOS.

 

[Xrated48]

Prequels are better imo at least they have amazing jedi battles making it at least memorable even if the movies are bad. DCEU has nothing really memorable imo and BvS and Suicide Squad were awful.

 

[DA_Champion]

Who would win in a fight, Darth Sidious or General Zod?

;-)

 

[Erzengel]

Sidious, aren't Kryptonians susceptible to magic?

 

[Tacit Ronin]

This brings up a good question: who is the more boring lead with a bland, poorly emoted performance, Anakin Skywalker or Superman (Cavil)?

Skywalker: I wish I could just wish away my feelings, but I can't.
Superman: No one stays good in this world.

 

[DA_Champion]

This brings up a good question: who is the more boring lead with a bland, poorly emoted performance, Anakin Skywalker or Superman (Cavil)?

Skywalker: I wish I could just wish away my feelings, but I can't.
Superman: No one stays good in this world.

Who had a better character arc?

 

[DrCosmic]

Prequels.

The reasons are simple: The prequels made a world that I could want to and eventually did revisit through the Clone Wars series. The DCEU made a world I never want to say again. The prequels made me feel strong positive emotions in it's spectacle and worldbuilding and genuine heartbreak in at least one of it's conflicts. The prequels can be cut into a good movie. The prequels support great fan theories. The prequels disappoint the goodwill of their IP, they don't outright spit on it, no matter how offensive JJB's 20 minutes of screentime may seem, the whole point of the series isn't that classic Star Wars is stupid, whereas DCEU does that for classic superheroes. And perhaps that's why the prequels win this so clearly for me. The Prequels build on what Star Wars is to give us incredible feelings. There are classic highly memorable moments in the Prequels. Even the moments that have become memes work as memes because they're memorable. And some of the strongest emotions from the prequels didn't become memes. People just felt them.

But there are no classic moments in the DCEU. Instead, it tears down what DC is and gives us weak pontifications instead, backed up only by sound and fury. What really nails this coffin for me is that the Prequels create more likable characters with poorer acting. They create more interesting worlds with worse cinematography and editing. They create equally cartoonish CGI with less money ten years earlier. The strengths of the DCEU over the PT simply never manifest into anything meaningful for me. The rocket to hell is built better than the rocket to purgatory. Big whoop.

Think for a moment about the feelings these images invoked on a first viewing:

On the contrary. What am I supposed to feel in the DCEU. What's supposed to cut me deep?

This?

What's supposed to upend my expectations for this universe? This?

Who am I rooting for, really? This guy?

...

Nah. Not for real. The DCEU has a lot of noise, and they have a lot of money but they can't even compete with one has been visionary with middling 1970s directing experience when it comes to making the audience feel something.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Who had a better character arc?

Superman's is still ongoing. But this is a tough question, as they both suck.

 

[DrCosmic]

Who had a better character arc?

Obi-Wan

Why the Prequels pretended he wasn't the main character is just absurd. He's the one that makes the important decisions and learns the important information in the first two movies. Cutting back to Anakin whining doing nothing all the time was just that.

 

[Slade W]

This brings up a good question: who is the more boring lead with a bland, poorly emoted performance, Anakin Skywalker or Superman (Cavil)?

Skywalker: I wish I could just wish away my feelings, but I can't.
Superman: No one stays good in this world.

I think Hayden was worse. Cavil is boring and bland, but he is at least watchable IMO. I cringed, rolled my eyes and sometimes laughed during a lot of Anakin's scenes

 

[The_Manhunter]

Love both of the choices, but the prequels take it for me. I watched them SO many times when I was younger