dear god they're here RUN

[the_ultimate_evil]

i was walking through down yesterday and this guy handed me a leaflet that took me few minutes to see what it was

DIANETICS

the scientologists have reached northern ireland and are recruiting, abandon ship, leave the country just run god damn it run

 

[AnorexicBatman]

What is so bad about Scientology? It's just as stupid as any other religion. At least they have not been responsible for the deaths thousands of innocents unlike Christianity.
Also, the origin story makes for some average science fiction reading. Not quite Asimov but I'm not complaining...

Also, Tom Cruise and John Travolta are still very good actors regardless of their religious beliefs. I will say this though that Tom is kind of immature even now.

AUTOBOTS! RAISE FLAME SHIELDS!!!

 

[katie_girl09]

What is so bad about Scientology? It's just as stupid as any other religion. At least they have not been responsible for the deaths thousands of innocents unlike Christianity.
Also, the origin story makes for some average science fiction reading. Not quite Asimov but I'm not complaining...

Also, Tom Cruise and John Travolta are still very good actors regardless of their religious beliefs. I will say this though that Tom is kind of immature even now.

AUTOBOTS! RAISE FLAME SHIELDS!!!

You, sir, are a very respectful man.

 

[Ipodman]

What is so bad about Scientology? It's just as stupid as any other religion. At least they have not been responsible for the deaths thousands of innocents unlike Christianity.
Also, the origin story makes for some average science fiction reading. Not quite Asimov but I'm not complaining...

Also, Tom Cruise and John Travolta are still very good actors regardless of their religious beliefs. I will say this though that Tom is kind of immature even now.

AUTOBOTS! RAISE FLAME SHIELDS!!!

If u are refering to the 'good' Transformers... please leave them out of this!

 

[SuperFerret]

What is so bad about Scientology? It's just as stupid as any other religion. At least they have not been responsible for the deaths thousands of innocents unlike Christianity.
Also, the origin story makes for some average science fiction reading. Not quite Asimov but I'm not complaining...

Also, Tom Cruise and John Travolta are still very good actors regardless of their religious beliefs. I will say this though that Tom is kind of immature even now.

AUTOBOTS! RAISE FLAME SHIELDS!!!

The thing about Scientology is that it's clearly a scam, as opposed to other religions that (depending on your beliefs) either aren't scams, or aren't as obvious. It's not like the Pope or Moses ever said that the best way to make money is to start your own religion, as Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard did.

I'll give them this, Scientology is the first religion ballsy enough to incorporate RPG elements.

And you say "responsible for the deaths thousands of innocents" like it's a bad thing.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Scientology can be considered responsible for ruining lives and taking advantage over people for the Church's own financial gain. Also did you see Battlefield Earth?

 

[chamber-music]

Heck if Scientology ends the whole catholic/protestant hatefest then I'm all for it.

Long live Xenu!


j/k

 

[AndThePickles]

Scientology can be considered responsible for ruining lives and taking advantage over people for the Church's own financial gain.

You could say that about many religions for centuries, though. Look at the Catholic church in the Dark Ages...priests spoke about what they wanted because the people couldn't read and didn't know Latin, and they pocketed everyone's money.

That being said, however, I *personally* think that Scientology is cult-like and very much disagree with it.

 

[DarkReflections]

In the words of the great George Carlin: Religion is ********. Nuf ced.

 

[The Lizard]

What is so bad about Scientology? It's just as stupid as any other religion. At least they have not been responsible for the deaths thousands of innocents unlike Christianity.

You need to do some more research.

While the BELIEFS of Scientology are just as wacky as any other supernatural-based religion, the methodology of Scientology with regards to luring people in, making money and trying to insinuate itself into public programs is much more sneaky and underhanded than your average religion.

While most churches make their appeal based solely on faith in the unprovable which you either accept or reject, Scientology tries to claim that it is "scientific" through the use of silly gadgets like the e-meter and bogus claims that L Ron Hubbard was some kind of scientific genius. The "church" of Scientology tries to hide its human rights abuses and pseudo-scientific quackery behind the veil of "religious freedom", while also claiming that L Ron Hubbard's "tech" is secular enough to be in schools, rehab programs and local government.

This is the organization that made up a fake "Mental Health Assistance" group name so that they could get their phone numbers flashed on the screen during news coverage right after September 11, 2001. That's the type of unethical, profit-at-all-cost mentality you see in the Church of Scientology.

 

[blueharvest]

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104274

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

Heck if Scientology ends the whole catholic/protestant hatefest then I'm all for it.

Long live Xenu!


j/k

didn't see the j/k there i was about to rant like a bastard

 

[DarkReflections]

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104274

its like an episode out of star trek. man, scientologists are idiots.

 

[Prison Mike]

eh. scientology is just as much b.s. as other religions IMO.

 

[Dark Victory]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCGP-0545EU

 

[BestGirl]

You could say that about many religions for centuries, though. Look at the Catholic church in the Dark Ages...priests spoke about what they wanted because the people couldn't read and didn't know Latin, and they pocketed everyone's money.

The Church did that hundreds of years ago. Scientology does it now. It's possible someday Scientology could become a legit religion, but right now it's just a pseudo-religious scam that tries to insinuate itself into secular culture as Lizard says.

 

[Maximus One]

While Scientology is complete and utter bs (like every other religion before it) Its still some damn interesting reading.

 

[DarkReflections]

While Scientology is complete and utter bs (like every other religion before it) Its still some damn interesting reading.

thats because its basically a science - fiction story.

 

[Manic]

--EDIT--

Nevermind. I avoid the Religion thread to avoid getting into BS debates.

 

[John__Smith]

i was walking through down yesterday and this guy handed me a leaflet that took me few minutes to see what it was

DIANETICS

the scientologists have reached northern ireland and are recruiting, abandon ship, leave the country just run god damn it run

I guess the only logical option would be to go and do something about it then. If only there was some sort of organisation where you can protest scientology anonymously and make sure they have trouble recruiting new members....
I'll just leave this here....

http://anonbelfast.ning.com/

 

[The Guard]

I visited a church of scientology once for a college project. They weren't crazy, and some of their material was interesting and relevant. They've got these self-help programs they teach (for a nominal fee), and a lot of it is about helping people. The problem with Scientology, near as I can tell, is that some of them are REALLY crazy, not that all of them are.

 

[The Lizard]

I visited a church of scientology once for a college project. They weren't crazy, and some of their material was interesting and relevant. They've got these self-help programs they teach (for a nominal fee), and a lot of it is about helping people. The problem with Scientology, near as I can tell, is that some of them are REALLY crazy, not that all of them are.

Like any "religion"/self-help movement, there are of course some kind, normal people in Scientology who believe they are actually helping people and doing the world good.

However, those seemingly common-sense self-help courses that are sold to you at the beginning are a gateway to indoctrination intended to keep you shelling out more and more money while subtly altering your worldview to agree with that of L Ron Hubbard.

For example: The basic Scn course titled "Overcoming Ups and Downs in Life" seems to be a simplistic instruction on how to deal with things that frustrate you and hold you back in life.
HOWEVER, within this beginning course manual is introduced the Scientology concept of the "anti-social person", later known as the "suppressive person". The reader is told that these "anti-social people" want to hold him back in life and they will criticize any self-help attempts he makes because they are "insane" and want to keep the world down. One of the many examples shown of these "anti-social" people depicts them complaining about a group holding signs that say "keep kids off drugs", because only an insane anti-social would criticize a group that wants to keep kids off drugs, right? (ie: the Scientology rehab front group Narconon.)
So basically the whole point of the seemingly innocent "Ups and Downs" course is to plant the seed that critics of Scientology are "anti-social" and "suppressive".

You can find out more about the manipulative aspects of the Scientology "basic courses" here:

The Scientology "Training Routines" - supposedly improve communication, but actually train you to "blank out" your mind on command, as well as learning to harass people more efficiently.

Scientology's "Study Technology" (which they claim is secular and try to sell to public and private school systems)

PTS/SP Course delves more into those "suppressives" who keep you down -- and criticize Scientology (BEWARE - link to Scientology-owned site)

All this stuff grooms a person to accept L Ron Hubbard's re-definitions of basic words such as "ethics" and "knowing", plus lots of Scientology jargon and acronyms -- all at a price of course. Courses start at a relatively low $60-$80 each, but quickly climb into the hundreds and then the thousands as it is "discovered" that a person needs more "help" in life.

Interesting, easy-to-digest essays about the Scientology thought process can be read at this site: http://askthescientologist.blogspot.com/

 

[ChickenScratch]

I'm an atheist so all religions are as silly to me.