Transformers Did anyone see this coming???

[mybotisgone]

I was just thinking. But with all the Marvel comic movies being made and Marvel looking like the great saver of of comic base movie And after Spider-man and X2 it looked like it was but now Ghost Rider, Spider-man3, and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer doing ok and fans seem to saying that they are calling off of Marvel so end up being the saver of of comic base movies but Marvel's Ex-partners of Hasbro with Transformers of all things. And they don't even start out as a comic at first but as a toy line. WTF??? Tell me but did anyone see that coming? Because I don't! and I love it. Why to kick Marvel a$$ Hasbro. Don't think it would be you. Hell I thought it would be DC making a comeback. But nope even DC messed that one up by having the fans made at then over having Bryan Singer not doing anymore X-Men movie to do Superman Returns. And man did fans wont DC, Warner Bros, and Bryan Singer's blood. And they don't care that Superman Returns was a lot better then X3 they just wanted there blood. Hopefully fans will get over it and move on. But anyways Hasbro with the help of Steven Spielberg and Michael Bay of all people mopped the floors with Marvel This year.

 

[megatron01]

For a long time now, I've been a fan of transformers. I envisioned transformers as the next "Star Wars" given a great special FX & story. I think Spielberg saw this too that's why he took the interest on it. The movie got the FX right and a mediocre story and its done pretty good. They can work on getting a really good story in the sequel then we will have something that will truly rival star wars and even surpass it. The fans love transfomers because of the story and characters, & not just bec. their transforming robots (that's why we hated Gobots).

 

[mybotisgone]

To bad the other Producer is still having trouble with the G.I.Joe movie rights. Then Hasbro would have two franchise to make money from. But I do hear a rummer that Steven Spielberg may help Hasbro with that one as well.

 

[CFlash]

I was just thinking. But with all the Marvel comic movies being made and Marvel looking like the great saver of of comic base movie And after Spider-man and X2 it looked like it was but now Ghost Rider, Spider-man3, and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer doing ok and fans seem to saying that they are calling off of Marvel so end up being the saver of of comic base movies but Marvel's Ex-partners of Hasbro with Transformers of all things. And they don't even start out as a comic at first but as a toy line. WTF??? Tell me but did anyone see that coming? Because I don't! and I love it. Why to kick Marvel a$$ Hasbro. Don't think it would be you. Hell I thought it would be DC making a comeback. But nope even DC messed that one up by having the fans made at then over having Bryan Singer not doing anymore X-Men movie to do Superman Returns. And man did fans wont DC, Warner Bros, and Bryan Singer's blood. And they don't care that Superman Returns was a lot better then X3 they just wanted there blood. Hopefully fans will get over it and move on. But anyways Hasbro with the help of Steven Spielberg and Michael Bay of all people mopped the floors with Marvel This year.

Funny you bring up Marvel considering they're responsible for giving life to the Transformers characters. They wrote the original bio cards and treatments that the cartoon makers based their stuff on. I'm not sure if Marvel retains rights to elements of the story and that's why some major plot elements were discarded in the movie (The Ark, the 4 million yrs ago crash landing, needing a supercomputer to reformat their alt-modes, etc) or if Hasbro owns everything. Anybody know? Shadowboxing?

It'll be sorta ironic if something pretty much all the artists tended to look down upon and only championed by Jim Shooter ends up squashing them in the Box Office and changing the rules of the game (again).

Someone else brought up G.I.Joe. That's gonna be tricky. More than even Transformers (which was simpler), G.I.Joe owes everything to Larry Hama at Marvel. I assume he's still alive.... if so, if he's not involved in one way or another, G.I.Joe will easily go down the tank. The comic book was simply SUPERB and if Hasbro and the filmmakers ignore it, it will be a real shame.

 

[Avangarde]

Marvel is no longer attached to TF, period. If there was some sort of small crack in the legals Marvel would have been all over it and we would have heard about it ages ago. Basicly Marvel sever ties with Hasbro right before Beast Wars, and thats why we got those new series ie Energon, Cybertron etc. It also left the door open for comic book rights ie Dreamwave and then later IDW.

 

[XXTBWCXX]

I was just thinking. But with all the Marvel comic movies being made and Marvel looking like the great saver of of comic base movie And after Spider-man and X2 it looked like it was but now Ghost Rider, Spider-man3, and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer doing ok and fans seem to saying that they are calling off of Marvel so end up being the saver of of comic base movies but Marvel's Ex-partners of Hasbro with Transformers of all things. And they don't even start out as a comic at first but as a toy line. WTF??? Tell me but did anyone see that coming? Because I don't! and I love it. Why to kick Marvel a$$ Hasbro. Don't think it would be you. Hell I thought it would be DC making a comeback. But nope even DC messed that one up by having the fans made at then over having Bryan Singer not doing anymore X-Men movie to do Superman Returns. And man did fans wont DC, Warner Bros, and Bryan Singer's blood. And they don't care that Superman Returns was a lot better then X3 they just wanted there blood. Hopefully fans will get over it and move on. But anyways Hasbro with the help of Steven Spielberg and Michael Bay of all people mopped the floors with Marvel This year.

I enjoyed Fantastic Four 2, and I can't wait for the third installment, but that's the only Marvel movie I'm looking forward too...since Spider-Man 3 was very dissapointing, I'm not eager for a fourth movie and Ghost Rider was just pathetic to me. Transformers was the best movie of this summer, this year (so far) and last year too (I would have to say that Batman Begins was a better movie in '05 and the best comic-book adaptation ever made), and it could stand up to Star Wars, but, to do that, I think they should explore stories of Energon (TF II) and possibly Unicron (a great way to end the trilogy and to have all Transformers united in this battle).

 

[CFlash]

Marvel is no longer attached to TF, period. If there was some sort of small crack in the legals Marvel would have been all over it and we would have heard about it ages ago. Basicly Marvel sever ties with Hasbro right before Beast Wars, and thats why we got those new series ie Energon, Cybertron etc. It also left the door open for comic book rights ie Dreamwave and then later IDW.

So is that why the movie couldn't do The Ark and 4 million years thing and stuff like that? Or does Hasbro own the story? Does that mean we're never going to see a scantily clad Circuit Breaker in the movies? That sux! t:

More importantly, what does that mean for G.I.Joe... which IMHO owes more to Marvel than even Transformers.

 

[XXTBWCXX]

So is that why the movie couldn't do The Ark and 4 million years thing and stuff like that? Or does Hasbro own the story? Does that mean we're never going to see a scantily clad Circuit Breaker in the movies? That sux! t:

More importantly, what does that mean for G.I.Joe... which IMHO owes more to Marvel than even Transformers.

They had the Ark in the script for a long time, but then dropped it to expand more time on the humans.

 

[steelio2006]

It might be interesting to see the ARK in the sequel. Like have Ultra Magnus and other autobots with it come crashing to Earth.

 

[CFlash]

It might be interesting to see the ARK in the sequel. Like have Ultra Magnus and other autobots with it come crashing to Earth.

The Ark means nothing without having crash-landed millions and millions of years ago. Part of that whole irony thing.

 

[Avangarde]

So is that why the movie couldn't do The Ark and 4 million years thing and stuff like that? Or does Hasbro own the story? Does that mean we're never going to see a scantily clad Circuit Breaker in the movies? That sux! t:

More importantly, what does that mean for G.I.Joe... which IMHO owes more to Marvel than even Transformers.

That I'm not sure of, may need to do more digging for that.

 

[mybotisgone]

I check. Hasbro could do the ark thing. In fact it may be in the sequel. Bay just don't want to go with it. And bay don't want Optimus Prime to look anything like Optimus Prime or have Peter Cullen as his voice. But Spielberg made him do it. The only thing Bay got on Prime was the flames and just about everything else. But bay said he was wrong about Cullen and was happy that he was wrong.http://imdb.com/name/nm0191520/

 

[mybotisgone]

More importantly, what does that mean for G.I.Joe... which IMHO owes more to Marvel than even Transformers.

One of the other Producers on Transformers and was set for G.I.Joe made all these deals with other movie studios for G.I.Joe and close to all of them want there cut. But I hear Spielberg may try to help them out of that mess. But I don't know.http://imdb.com/Glossary/P#producer

 

[CFlash]

One of the other Producers on Transformers and was set for G.I.Joe made all these deals with other movie studios for G.I.Joe and close to all of them want there cut. But I hear Spielberg may try to help them out of that mess. But I don't know.

If Larry Hama isn't on board as a consultant or screenplay writer (he does screenplay work too) I hope the movie never gets made. He is the heart of G.I. Joe in my opinion. I hope they ignore the cartoon- except maybe the first miniseries- and just study the biocards and Marvel comic books for inspiration.

 

[mybotisgone]

If Larry Hama isn't on board as a consultant or screenplay writer (he does screenplay work too) I hope the movie never gets made. He is the heart of G.I. Joe in my opinion. I hope they ignore the cartoon- except maybe the first miniseries- and just study the biocards and Marvel comic books for inspiration.

Like I said. Hasbro got it wrapped in legal problems but with the movie studios who all want a piece of it. Just like what happen with Spiderman. But Marvel has stated that they don't care what happens with G.I. Joe and that they can use what ever Marvel had put into it. And besides Marvel and Hasbro are back together doing Marvel legends now. And beside Marvel help make the old 80's Transformers cartoon and could at anytime stop Paramount from using Peter Cullen in the movie but don't. And yes the same Paramount that's going to do all the future Marvel and Hasbro film deals like Iron-man and Captain America and so on.http://forums.superherohype.com/forumdisplay.php?f=299