Did the last reel of Batman Begins bring the movie down a notch?

Mr. Sinister05

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Does anyone else here think that the microwave weapon, throwaway ninjas (who by the way would know Bruce Wayne's identity), certain lines ("Do you drive Stick", "I gotta get me one of those"), sudden turn of Ducard into a 2 dimensional villain, typical save the entire city stakes, or whatever bring the movie down a notch or at at least not live up to the first 2/3 of the movie?
 
It wasn't the best part, but it didn't bring the movie down IMO. :o
 
The first half of the movie was better, the second half dragged a bit but overall it all worked out. Some of the lines stuck out as mind numblingly irritating, though ("Nice Coat.").

The scene with Ra's on the train was awesome.
 
I find I go back and forth on which was better. Sometimes I prefer the more serious and adult nature of the first arc, and sometimes I prefer the hard an fast action movie which is the last act. It's really just a change of style to me.
 
I don't think anything brought that movie down. It's the best interpretation of Batman on the big screen yet, and Christian Bale is amazing as the Dark Knight.
 
Can we have an option added that says 'It wasnt better or worse than the rest of the movie - the entire film was great'?

If that happens, then I'll vote for that. :D
 
yes it did
1)Microwaves cant pass thru metal
2)Yet another "lets gas Gotham" master plot
3)In the time it took to put all that stuff in the watermain no one felt the effects from boiling water or taking showers?????
 
I didnt like the fact that the evaporator didnt kill all the humans by evaporating the water in their bodies.

That part didnt make sense.
 
dpm07 said:
I don't think anything brought that movie down. It's the best interpretation of Batman on the big screen yet, and Christian Bale is amazing as the Dark Knight.
That sounds about right.:up:
 
Mr. Sinister05 said:
Does anyone else here think that the microwave weapon, throwaway ninjas (who by the way would know Bruce Wayne's identity), certain lines ("Do you drive Stick", "I gotta get me one of those"), sudden turn of Ducard into a 2 dimensional villain, typical save the entire city stakes, or whatever bring the movie down a notch or at at least not live up to the first 2/3 of the movie?

Absolutely, that final reel is why I can't watch BB anymore.
 
roach said:
yes it did
1)Microwaves cant pass thru metal
2)Yet another "lets gas Gotham" master plot
3)In the time it took to put all that stuff in the watermain no one felt the effects from boiling water or taking showers?????

4)why not just poison the water without the redundant need of an aerosolised weapon?
5)how do you get micorwave emitters that big off sinking ships?
6)useless female romantic interest as demographic appeasement.
7)innovative, yet ultimately underwhelming fight choregraphy.
8)only really get to see the car in action when escorting honeys to the cave, again.

Anyone who loved BB and hated SR is a hypocrite. Both movies are enjoyable and tragically flawed at the same time because WB strives to make movies with wide appeal. This is a recipie for mediocrity becuase the only way to make everyone happy is to dilute your story enough to have a little bit of everything for everyone. But that leaves everyone a little under-whelmed, there won't be enough action, there won't be enough drama, there won't be enough comedy.

Bruce Lee was right, nobody develops a taste for diluted wine.
 
Manhunter said:
Anyone who loved BB and hated SR is a hypocrite.

And that statement makes you come off as totally ignorant.

Many people, including myself were disappointed by SR because it seems as a modernized rehash or STM & SII and aspects like "the munchkin" didn't sit too well, especially after the return of one of the greatest heroes after 2 decades.

BB was apprecated because it was a fresh take and was very loyal to it's source material. I don't recall getting a modernized rehash of Burton's Batman 89.
 
Mr. Sinister05 said:
Does anyone else here think that the microwave weapon, throwaway ninjas (who by the way would know Bruce Wayne's identity), certain lines ("Do you drive Stick", "I gotta get me one of those"), sudden turn of Ducard into a 2 dimensional villain, typical save the entire city stakes, or whatever bring the movie down a notch or at at least not live up to the first 2/3 of the movie?

god yes, couldn't agree more.

also, did anyone else wonder why the two Gotham Water Utilities workers didn't evacuate instead of remaining behind to narrate?
 
y2jversion1 said:
...BB was apprecated because it was a fresh take and was very loyal to it's source material. I don't recall getting a modernized rehash of Burton's Batman 89.

Talk about ignorant, where do you think the main plot to poison the city came from? Gee V.V. worked so good last time, lets impose R.D. on the filmakers.

Nolan and Goyer had a sweet thing going on until the mandate came down. Whip up some formula in act III, cause it's a Blockbuster with wide appeal!
 
Manhunter said:
Talk about ignorant, where do you think the main plot to poison the city came from? Gee V.V. worked so good last time, lets impose R.D. on the filmakers.

V.V.? R.D.? juh?
 
dpm07 said:
I don't think anything brought that movie down. It's the best interpretation of Batman on the big screen yet, and Christian Bale is amazing as the Dark Knight.

:up:
My thought exactly.
 
Dope Nose said:
V.V.? R.D.? juh?

Don't you just love when people do that? Throw out random acronyms most people wont recognize and give no idication as to what they mean.
 
y2jversion1 said:
BB was apprecated because it was a fresh take and was very loyal to it's source material. I don't recall getting a modernized rehash of Burton's Batman 89.

yet it was....another Villain threatening to gas Gotham
 
The last part was pretty carelessly hobbled together, yes. Those ninjas knowing batman's identity seemed to me like it was "let's just not focus on that and hope the audience is too stupid to remember..." and 'can you drive stick' has to be the worst line in the film. The first bits of the film and him beginning to be batman were quite nice, but this part with the train traffic guy annoyingly repeating his "Oh no we're doomed" lines, the poor editing, just the ridiculousness of the microwave thing takes down the nice quality it built up, yes.
 

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