The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Director's Cut

People who clutch to excuses like franchise fatigue and reboot fatigue as means of propping up critically mediocre films and mediocre box office performances ignore numerous examples that up-end those excuses.

All it falls down on is that the films are subpar. Batman Begins didn't make much but there's a reason why TDK made that much. There's a reason why Skyfall made that much after coming off of QoS. There's a reason why Fast and Furious generates more excitement with the GA than Spidey movies do now. But get ready for ASM3 and spinoffs! Who's excited for more rushed crap!?

Fact.
 
Those of us asking for a director's cut don't care about whether or not footage was cut from the studio or the director. There are in fact deleted scenes that were advertised to us that we want to see in the movie and, in the long run, we just want an "extended cut" of TASM2. Call it whatever you want, it doesn't matter. Just give us the film that was being advertised.

Extended cut i understand, as there were scenes in the trailers that i thought should have made it to the final film..but not a directors cut.

Oh and, btw...

Don't roll your eyes at me. Thanks.

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LOL

I want a director's cut even if the theatrical version IS the director's cut---I just want it to be longer!!


Serioulsy--a director's cut would only be of any use if the director had been forced to leave in stuff he wanted cut and vice versa--not just a longer cut with added scenes.


The movie has flaws---if anybody thinks they are ALL sins of exclusion and no sins of inclusion they are deluded.
 
Because TASM1 was a much quicker reboot re-telling an origin story only 10 years after SM1.

Irrelevant. The Incredible Hulk managedto reinvigorate that particular character, and The Avengers (sequel featuring the character in the rebooted continuity) solidified him.

Star Trek (2009) basically reinvented and modernized a dead franchise to a completely new audience.

Irrelevant. We've seen these modern renventions fall flat on their faces before. See Dredd, Tron, and Indiana Jones.

Casino Royale was as much of a reboot as any other Bond film that introduced a new actor in the role, so IDK if that really counts.

Now you're just reaching. Casino Royale was Bond's first adventure, both in the books and on the screen. It reset the timeline completely, and reintroduced mainstays such as Felix Leiter and Ms. Moneypenny. Make no mistake about it...it counts, and it was a resounding success. I'd argue that Bond faced as much, if not more, of an uphill battle as Spider-Man did. Nobody was in Daniel Craig's corner when the casting news broke. I think the only good thing this movie had going for it coming in was Martin Campbell, who had incidentally directed the only other good Bond film in modern times...over a decade before CR hit the scene.

What about TDK? Another sequel that was actually coming off the heels of a reboot that made a fraction of the money that TASM did. A lot of people erroneously declare SM3 to be the B&R of the Spider-Man franchise, so the comparison is actually a bit more fitting than some of the others.

Seems like you're more content to come up with reasons (or rather, excuses) why a reboot can't be successful than you are at giving credence to the mere idea that it has as much a shot as anything else: 50/50.
 
Extended cut i understand, as there were scenes in the trailers that i thought should have made it to the final film..but not a directors cut.

Like I said, call it whatever you want. I just want some sort of extended cut of the film. Basically give TASM2 the SM2.1 treatment.

Oh and, btw...

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Irrelevant. The Incredible Hulk managedto reinvigorate that particular character, and The Avengers (sequel featuring the character in the rebooted continuity) solidified him.

Stop writing "irrelevant" at the beginning of all your posts. Makes you sound really pretentious.

And people weren't exactly lining up to see The Incredible Hulk, were they?

Irrelevant. We've seen these modern renventions fall flat on their faces before. See Dredd, Tron, and Indiana Jones.

Both Tron and Indiana Jones were sequels. Although Dredd didn't do well in the box office, it did pretty well critically and gained a nice cult following. Dredd was never a popular character to begin with.

Now you're just reaching. Casino Royale was Bond's first adventure, both in the books and on the screen. It reset the timeline completely, and reintroduced mainstays such as Felix Leiter and Ms. Moneypenny. Make no mistake about it...it counts, and it was a resounding success. I'd argue that Bond faced as much, if not more, of an uphill battle as Spider-Man did. Nobody was in Daniel Craig's corner when the casting news broke. I think the only good thing this movie had going for it coming in was Martin Campbell, who had incidentally directed the only other good Bond film in modern times...over a decade before CR hit the scene.

So what if Casino Royale was Bond's first adventure? It was no different when they introduced Pierce Brosnan as the new James Bond. It doesn't count.

What about TDK? Another sequel that was actually coming off the heels of a reboot that made a fraction of the money that TASM did. A lot of people erroneously declare SM3 to be the B&R of the Spider-Man franchise, so the comparison is actually a bit more fitting than some of the others.

The Nolan Batman films came out 7 years after the god awful Batman & Robin film. And Batman Begins wasn't re-telling the same origin story shown on film like TASM1 did.
 
Stop writing "irrelevant" at the beginning of all your posts. Makes you sound really pretentious.

And people weren't exactly lining up to see The Incredible Hulk, were they?

I couldn't care less how it makes me sound; if you say something irrelevant, expect it to be pointed out. *shrugs* Here's a better idea - present a more well-reasoned argument and we'll both be better off for it.

But I will say that's a fair point about the Hulk, he had a tepid reception when the reboot came out(which parallels TASM being the lowest grossing of the 4 films at the time), but after the success of the Avengers, the excitement for the character was comparatively high.

All I'm trying to say to you is that the public will embrace a reinvented character if the finished product on screen gives them a compelling reason to do so. Obviously, you believe so since you're a fan of this new franchise. The least you could do is entertain the possibility that interest has waned in the character, and it could be due to the public's reception of the character, and not necessarily due to some harbored loyalty to a dead franchise.

Both Tron and Indiana Jones were sequels.

Fair enough, but the point is that they were modern interpretations of these franchises that also missed the mark. It happens, thus that's not exactly an excuse that you can use for Star Trek's success.

Although Dredd didn't do well in the box office, it did pretty well critically and gained a nice cult following. Dredd was never a popular character to begin with.

Point taken, but I'll use your own words here:


  • Star Trek (2009) basically reinvented and modernized a dead franchise to a completely new audience.

Dredd tried the same thing. Guess what? They failed. So again, that's not some automatic magic bullet for Star Trek's success. Stop making excuses.

So what if Casino Royale was Bond's first adventure? It was no different when they introduced Pierce Brosnan as the new James Bond. It doesn't count.

What part of resetting the timeline and reintroducing the characters do you not understand? Is that not exactly what TASM did?

You know what, nevermind; I think we're done here. If you're going to skew the term and ignore relevant facts just so you can make excuses for the decline of this franchise, then there's no point in continuing. Clearly we're not getting through to each other.
 
Visualiza, if you're just going to continue accusing me of making excuses, our conversation is done. I'm not giving you the time of day to respond to each of those nasty, snarky comments.
 
Visualiza, if you're just going to continue accusing me of making excuses, our conversation is done. I'm not giving you the time of day to respond to each of those nasty, snarky comments.
I conceded the good points you made when you made them. If that makes me snarky, then I don't know what to tell you, but I will say you never extended as much a courtesy to me. Certainly wasn't my intent, but as I said...we're not getting through to one another, so sure, call it a day if you will.
 
It always a sign that a movie is great when people are feeling a director's cut.
 
A lot of people liked "The Wolverine" and wanted a director's cut of it and sure enough James Magnold delivered. So it has nothing to do with personal reception of the theatrical cut at times; it's just fans want more.
 
The Wolverine could have been better...hence people wanting a director's cut.
 
I want the scene where Dane DeHaan eats pie and says, "So good."

I felt cheated.
 
It always a sign that a movie is great when people are feeling a director's cut.


??? or that they wanted to like it a lot more and hope against hope that the good stuff was cut out.


Is there a list of cut scenes?
Not cut/alternate lines but SCENES?

The MJ scenes which they said they are NOT going to release.
The deleted post-credits Norman Osborne scene---which was to be honest just a tag to the end scene where the mysterious guy is walking thru the
future villains armory

But full or substantially extended scenes.
 
??? or that they wanted to like it a lot more and hope against hope that the good stuff was cut out.


Is there a list of cut scenes?
Not cut/alternate lines but SCENES?

The MJ scenes which they said they are NOT going to release.
The deleted post-credits Norman Osborne scene---which was to be honest just a tag to the end scene where the mysterious guy is walking thru the
future villains armory

But full or substantially extended scenes.

The Gwen deaths they filmed I'd be fine seeing as alternate takes on the Blu-Ray but GG attacking the Oscorp board members, a longer fight between Harry and Peter, possibly seeing Max's mother and him frying her, the 'Secrets have a cost' line would be nice to hear but it's okay that it got cut, and more with Harry and Peter would be nice but not needed.

On one hand, I want to see the Norman head scene in its entirety but I'm okay if it is cut too. To be honest, if in "ASM3" they explain that Norman was dead for a few seconds or an hour and he is brought back to life via his own armored suit (a green ad purple-schemed suit), I would be happier with.

All these things are not because I was dissatisfied with the theatrical cut. I felt it was a 7.5 or an 8/10 at best, but some of these scenes left on the cutting room floor inserted back into a director's cut would just add a little more character development and not feel rushed. Plus, if 10-20 minutes were added back in, I would be perfectly fine watching a 2 hours and 30 minutes or 2 hours and 45 minutes "Spider-Man" film. :yay:
 
Witnessing Gwen's fate was enough "disturbing scenes" for me in this movie. Unless these scenes don't involve Gwen, then I'm totally okay with seeing them. Is there a plot twist at the end or is it just limited to these disturbing scenes?
 
Has anyone here seen the rough cut of the film with the Oscorp scene, in which Harry stares at Felicia from the other side of the window?
I suppose it's just after Harry's transformation and taking the glider. It would be a much better introduction of the goblin then we got.
So how long is the scene? What does the goblin do?
 
A lot of people liked "The Wolverine" and wanted a director's cut of it and sure enough James Magnold delivered. So it has nothing to do with personal reception of the theatrical cut at times; it's just fans want more.
Thank you.
 
Apparently a lot of Goblin's scenes were different. For instance, his transformation was more frightening, the final fight was longer and more violent, and he apparently snapped Gwen's neck himself instead of letter her fall to her death.

I am very happy that this was not the case for how the end of the movie played through.
 
Well,I hope if these disturbing scenes exist ,that they don t make it to the DVD.
At least give us a choice between a Theatrical cut and a Director's cut .
 
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