Discussion: Global Warming and Other Environmental Issues

[ShadowBoxing]

Well, since I'm not obese, can't blame me, I also don't drive, can't blame me there either. Why stop melting the ice caps? I think the earth should just do what it's going to do, it's happened before, it'll happen again. The ocean will rise like it did before.

Right but it took a few billion years the first time around. We shortened the next cycle to Millions, that pretty bad

 

[KingOfDreams]

I know many who reach 80 and above.

Yeah. My family has a history of long lifespans. My grandmother will turn 90 this year I believe and my great-grandfather lived to be 95 and my other surviving grandparents are well into thier 80s. I guess that's why I'm kind of amazed that the average life expectancy is so low...since many of the people around me have broken it by quite a few years.

 

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

Right but it took a few billion years the first time around. We shortened the next cycle to Millions, that pretty bad

It doesn't really matter to me, this hasn't happened so many times that you can say how fast or slow it's supposed to be. I think we'll eventually die out and none of it will matter.

 

[JokerFish]

Penguins are so cute.........too bad there gonna infest NY by then

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Penguins are so cute.........too bad there gonna infest NY by then

Penguins are cute....we will move them to Mars when we colonize it...and then proceed to f*** that planet up. I mean if Earth is our home and we did this to it...imagine when we move in someone else's place

 

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

Penguins are cute....we will move them to Mars when we colonize it...and then proceed to f*** that planet up. I mean if Earth is our home and we did this to it...imagine when we move in someone else's place

Mars is dead, we can't **** it up.

 

[Dew k. Mosi]

Whew, Los Angeles will be fine

 

[Kritish]

Arctic ice cap melting away

September 30, 2005



THE Arctic ice cap could disappear completely, well before the end of the century as a result of global warming, US scientists have warned.

The Arctic ice shelf has melted for the fourth straight year to its smallest area in a century, driven by rising temperatures that appear linked to a build-up of greenhouse gases.

If the shrinking trend continues at its present rate of 8 per cent a year, there could be no ice at all at the pole as early as the summer of 2060.

The extent of Arctic sea ice varies naturally, but researchers from the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre and NASA, which produced the new data, said there were strong indications that human-induced global warming was at least partially responsible. "It's still a controversial issue, and there's always going to be some uncertainty because the climate system does have a lot of natural variability, especially in the Arctic," said Mark Serreze of NSIDC, who led the research, "but I think the evidence is growing very, very strong that part of what we're seeing now is the increased greenhouse effect."



Sea ice cover in the Arctic, which does not boast a continental land mass like Antarctica, always shrinks to its lowest point in September, at the end of the northern hemisphere summer. For each of the past four years, satellite data has shown a substantial reduction in ice extent during this period.

On September 21, the average size of the cap had dropped to 5.31 million square kilometres -- the lowest in satellite records that stretch back to 1978.

Less accurate historical records indicate the latest low is unprecedented for more than a century. The area now covered by ice is 20 per cent lower than the average from 1978 to 2000.

"September 2005 will set a new record minimum in the amount of Arctic sea ice cover," Dr Serreze said. "It's the least sea ice we've seen in the satellite record, and continues a pattern of extreme low extents of sea ice which we've seen for the past four years."

Julienne Stroeve, one of his colleagues, said: "Considering the record low amounts of sea ice this year leading up to the month of September 2005 will almost certainly surpass 2002 as the lowest amount of ice cover in more than a century."

The decline is particularly worrying as it has the potential to create a feedback effect that accelerates global warming. Sea ice reflects much of the sun's heat back into space, while the ocean beneath absorbs it, so shrinking cover will raise temperatures still further. Reuters, The Times

Aw who needs it........fockin polor bears

 

[The Lumberjack]

The ocean will only be 2 hours away. By that time, I could go to the beach and, you know.....not swim.

 

[Kritish]

It will be easier to cross the continets by boat...

 

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

Whew, Los Angeles will be fine

not really,eventually los angeles and san diego will be up by seattle and then keep going higher, say goodbye to any good weather you might've had

 

[Hobgoblin]

here are a few maps of the new coastlines when the caps melt

Got any more of these maps for the rest of the world?

 

[Dew k. Mosi]

I'll be dead by then, so hey, as long as its nice while I live

 

[Gamma Ray]

I'll let my kids worry about it.

 

[Man-Thing]

I live in Tennesse, it looks as though TN will get some coastlines out of the this. That will be good for tourism.

 

[Man-Thing]

The Tennessee Pensinsula. That has a nice ring to it.

Looks like rebuild LA is a waste if this is gonna happen.

 

[C.F. Kane]

Is anybody going to actually seriously consider doing something, ANYTHING, to at least slow this process down?

Government regulation of of auto companies regarding their product's fuel efficiency? National speed limit? Ban on aerosols? Law on smog reduction? (I've heard about spending breaks to factories that pollute less, but no actual laws that I've heard of)

I'm at the very least riding a bike and using public transportation.

 

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

The Tennessee Pensinsula. That has a nice ring to it.

Looks like rebuild LA is a waste if this is gonna happen.

It's a waste anyway, no matter what kinds of levees they bring in there, there will be another major hurricane and it will all have been a huge waste of money.

Is anybody going to actually seriously consider doing something, ANYTHING, to at least slow this process down?

Government regulation of of auto companies regarding their product's fuel efficiency? National speed limit? Ban on aerosols? Law on smog reduction? (I've heard about spending breaks to factories that pollute less, but no actual laws that I've heard of)

I'm at the very least riding a bike and using public transportation.

I don't much see the point in delaying the inevitable but yea, maybe people could do something.

What about speed limit? people waste more gas sitting in traffic, we should make our roads like the autobahn. The rest sound good but I also think we should do something about cows and their methane production. The government seems to be going more toward hydro cars, hybrids, and electric anyway, so that's something.

As for the map, Florida has just as good of chance as getting consumed by a massive sinkhole since it's comprised entirely of limestone.

 

[Holly Goodhead]

Haha, Chicago is safe.

 

[C.F. Kane]

I live in DC, so I'll be gone...


And I spent a good portion of my life in Holland, and if sea levels rise, that's the first thing that's gonna go...

so not only will I be dead, but also pretty much all of my family and all of the friends that I've ever known

Why are people joking about this, then?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I'll be dead by then, so hey, as long as its nice while I live

what you forget is that this is not happened the minute the clock strikes 2060. by 2030 this process will be halfway through

 

[C.F. Kane]

What about speed limit? people waste more gas sitting in traffic, we should make our roads like the autobahn. The rest sound good but I also think we should do something about cows and their methane production. The government seems to be going more toward hydro cars, hybrids, and electric anyway, so that's something.

As for the map, Florida has just as good of chance as getting consumed by a massive sinkhole since it's comprised entirely of limestone.

Good point about the gas. Wasn't our highway system based on the Autobahn?

Oh well, looks like I'll never go back to Disney World again.

 

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

you should replace "will be" with "could be"

Good point about the gas. Wasn't our highway system based on the Autobahn?

Oh well, looks like I'll never go back to Disney World again.

I think it was actually.

Disney World might be the first to go if they keep building all that junk in such a small area.

 

[Corinthian™]

here are a few maps of the new coastlines when the caps melt

if deep south texas is ****ed.. then My town is ****ed also

 

[Gamma Ray]

I hope Neverland Ranch remains in tact.