Discussion: State Rights

[VampElvis]

Hmmm, interesting.

http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/12227/

Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

HCR 50 Reiterates Texas’ Rights Over Powers Not Otherwise Granted to Federal Government

*NOTE: If you're having trouble watching this due to high server traffic, you can watch Gov. Perry's speech here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LHrIxc-QyE
AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry today joined state Rep. Brandon Creighton and sponsors of House Concurrent Resolution (HCR) 50 in support of states’ rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

“I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Gov. Perry said. “That is why I am here today to express my unwavering support for efforts all across our country to reaffirm the states’ rights affirmed by the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I believe that returning to the letter and spirit of the U.S. Constitution and its essential 10th Amendment will free our state from undue regulations, and ultimately strengthen our Union.”

A number of recent federal proposals are not within the scope of the federal government’s constitutionally designated powers and impede the states’ right to govern themselves. HCR 50 affirms that Texas claims sovereignty under the 10th Amendment over all powers not otherwise granted to the federal government.

It also designates that all compulsory federal legislation that requires states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties, or that requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding, be prohibited or repealed.

HCR 50 is authored by Representatives Brandon Creighton, Leo Berman, Bryan Hughes, Dan Gattis and Ryan Guillen.

To view the full text of the resolution, please visit:
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/81R/billtext/html/HC00050I.htm.
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Comments?

 

[SuBe]

Already a Thread on this.

 

[StorminNorman]

Good for Perry.

 

[SuBe]

I agree. Anything to diminish Federal Power is good.

 

[NHawk19]

Here's the issue though:

In order for the states to pull this off theres going to be a lot that has to happen. Including the reduction of Federal Taxes in favor of possible higher state taxes, since the states will now have to decide about which social programs they wish to focus on.

I agree with the 10th amendment and reduction in federal government size to focus on only those issues which cannot be controlled on a state level, but I dont see them backing down from the $$ to pull this off.

 

[StorminNorman]

It would be great for Conservative governors across the nation to make a joint declaration of this type.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

So...isn't this...technically...considered...treason?

 

[SuBe]

It is in the Constitution.

 

[StorminNorman]

No.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Hurm.

So, is he talking about becoming a soverign state, or just...eh, sorry...I'll just read the whole thing and than comment.

I'm probably just commenting on the headline, and not the content.

 

[Kelly]

*big smile* That's my governor.......

 

[BlackLantern]

can we declare Texas an enemy of the Republic now??

 

[StorminNorman]

No. Texas telling the Government to read the Constitution isn't an act of war, its an act of common sense.

 

[BlackLantern]

No. Texas telling the Government to read the Constitution isn't an act of war, its an act of common sense.

it was a Star Wars joke....

 

[VampElvis]

He's too young to remember Lantern. We're getting old.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor!! Take him away!!

 

[Malice]

The US would never let Texas leave the union...
regardless what is in our constitution

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

"Plainly, the central idea of secession, is the essence of anarchy." Abraham Lincoln

 

[StorminNorman]

"Who needs habeas corpus" - Abraham Lincoln.

 

[hippie_hunter]

"Plainly, the central idea of secession, is the essence of anarchy." Abraham Lincoln

Even though secession is illegal from the status quo set by the Civil War and the federal government is above the state governments, the states do have certain degrees of sovereignty that the federal government needs to respect.

It's nice to see that we have two Presidents in a row who completely disregard and throw away parts of the Constitution they don't like.

 

[Malice]

Even though secession is illegal from the status quo set by the Civil War and the federal government is above the state governments, the states do have certain degrees of sovereignty that the federal government needs to respect.

It's nice to see that we have two Presidents in a row who completely disregard and throw away parts of the Constitution they don't like.

Bush started it...and now Obama is adding more to it.
Its scary.

 

[SuBe]

"Plainly, the central idea of secession, is the essence of anarchy." Abraham Lincoln

"That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. "

DoI

 

[Addendum]

"That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. "

DoI

hey, a document that served it's purpose in 1776 and has no further legal standing.

 

[Matt]

"Plainly, the central idea of secession, is the essence of anarchy." Abraham Lincoln

By Lincoln's logic, we should still be a colony as it was anarchy when we decided to secede from the British Empire.

At any rate, Perry is not trying to get Texas to leave the Union. He simply trying to force the government to acknowledge the laws laid forth by our Constitution in regards to respecting the soveirgnty of a state.

 

[Matt]

hey, a document that has no legal weight

Does the Constitution have legal weight? Specifically the tenth amendment to it? The federal government was created to be an agent of the state which oversaw national defense, printing of currency, and trade laws. Now its completely flipped around to the point where states are subservient to our federal government.