Discussion: The Bilderberg Group

[Matt]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_group

Does this group scare the hell out of any one else? Especially now that several members are now top officials in the Obama administration?

 

[SuBe]

I don't think we have too much to worry about. Since they meet in Luxury Hotels, they'll be lambasted by the Media for even thinking about going to a ritzy hotel.

 

[bunk]

Yes, very frightening.

 

[Paradoxium]

Oh man this is bordering on fringe territory.

I am not familiar with this topic, but it wouldn't surprise me if the topic is a mix of some truth and some "fantastical" stuff.

 

[Marx]

Another negative thread that refers to Obama from Matt? I'm shocked.

 

[Matt]

This is more a concern about numerous leaders being tainted by this group.

 

[Bathead]

Simple paranoia.

 

[The Senator]

What? Intelligent people who actually know what they're doing are running our government? How audacious!

 

[hippie_hunter]

Paranoia.

 

[Malice]

I have an x-friend...don't ask...
That was really big into the Bilderberg group and Illuminati

That being said, I am tainted a little in this. I have heard so much about the Masons, Illuminati....you name it

I would not be surprised whatsoever, if there are groups of executives and leaders that manufacture change

 

[Kelly]

Doesn't scare me any more than the Skulls movies.....*winks*


This government is no different than any of the others......people with way too much power are IN POWER. The people have very little to say once they have cast their vote. We live in a society where the only voice the people have is our vote. Our voice after that is pretty much drowned out. Some with a voice are called ignorant, some are called haters, some are called sheep, some are called koolaid drinkers, but none truly have a voice other than their vote.

With that said, my hope is that Obama gives the people a voice that he promised a voice to.....if that happens, I'm pretty much cool. There are other groups much like this one I'm sure.....that follow a party line, and a platform of all kinds.

 

[Matt]

Simple paranoia.

What? Intelligent people who actually know what they're doing are running our government? How audacious!

Paranoia.

These are elected officials going to off the record, unrecorded meetings with foreign officials and industry that are organized to discuss matters to discuss issues of state and industry. That goes beyond simple paranoia and is a bit concerning.

 

[The Senator]

How is it concerning? You have people discussing issues of the state and industry in private, intellectual circles. Maybe there are some matters which don't need to be discussed in a public forum. Or maybe people are making this out to be more than it really is.

 

[Kelly]

Well, though I don't see a MAJOR problem with this. When a major portion of your campaign centered around "transparency".....it certainly doesn't, if anything, "look good".

 

[The Senator]

But this is a private meeting. It isn't an international summit, nor is it responsible for formulating policy. We don't ask for transparency whenever the President has a private dinner. I don't see why we need transparency when government officials attend a private meeting to discuss current affairs.

 

[Kelly]

Well Jman, you don't know for sure if it is not responsible for formulating policy. That is alittle different.

And true, but honestly.....I trust Obama more than I trust some in his administration. I believe Obama to be on the up and up......I may not agree with some of what he's done so far, but I do believe he's trying to do the right thing. I'm just not sure of some in his administration.

 

[The Senator]

We have yet to see a resolution or international treaty come out of the Bilderberg conference. Therefore, it is not directly responsible for formulating policy...

 

[Kelly]

Well as I said......in "look" its not too good of a "look"....as far as me thinking too much about it, or worrying too much about it....I don't.

 

[Matt]

How is it concerning? You have people discussing issues of the state and industry in private, intellectual circles. Maybe there are some matters which don't need to be discussed in a public forum. Or maybe people are making this out to be more than it really is.

Then why don't the elected officials who attend keep minutes or at least tell us what is happening behind those closed doors? They are there on our time...I think we have the right to know. If it is nothing concerning, why not tell us? Or maybe it is concerning because of the fact that members are forbidden from discussing what goes on in the meeting prior to leaving. Maybe I just don't like people who have their travel expenses paid by my tax dollars, who are elected to represent me, use their free travel to fly off to a top secret conference where they discuss information that is too sensitive for the ears of their pawns...I mean electorate.

Funny how all these cries of government transparency we've been hearing lately only applies when it is towards a political opponent. Whether it be politicans like Sebelius and the Clintons, all three of whom have spent years complaining bout Bush's secrecy moonlighting as confirmed Bilderbergs or the Obama administration who spent two years campaigning on a platform of more transparency giving a DAILY SHOW CORRESPONDENT a pre-approved list of questions for an interview with Press Secretary Robert Gibbs. But the Republicans are just as secretive and hypocritical, so it is really just two sides of the same coin.

 

[Matt]

But this is a private meeting. It isn't an international summit, nor is it responsible for formulating policy. We don't ask for transparency whenever the President has a private dinner. I don't see why we need transparency when government officials attend a private meeting to discuss current affairs.

But can you say that with certainty? Of course not. Especially being as members are forbidden from discussing anything that goes on prior to leaving. And we usually do ask for transparency when the president has a dinner with a foreign official or CEO of a powerful media conglomorate.

 

[The Senator]

No, I'm sure you're right. The two attendees from the United States each year are single-handedly responsible for drafting international wars, economic disasters, and are really planning on making the United States a part of a worldwide communist regime. Yes, an annual conference at a hotel is responsible for all the major crises we see emerge. Forget the Senate, House of Representatives, White House and the United Nations... the real people in charge are the governors and businessmen who have attended these conferences in the past...

 

[Matt]

You're right, it is outrageous to assume that a small group of well connected people could meet in secret to organize a massive war or policy that the people had no idea was taking place until it had already been set in motion by the power of this small group.

Wait...that sounds familiar...was that the plot of a bad movie or something?

Spoiler

Oh yes, it was the Constitutional Convention! How silly of me to forget!

 

[The Senator]

Strange, I thought the militias in the New England states went to war before the Constitutional Convention convened.

 

[Matt]

Strange, I thought the militias in the New England states went to war before the Constitutional Convention convened.

I'm sorry, meant to say the Continental Congress. Prior to their formation and decision of war and revolution, the milita's "wars," can best be described as riots and a good portion of the population still hoped for re-unification, simply with representation in parliment. My point is, a small group of the population can manipulate and control the events, especially when basically every media tycoon in the world attends these events.

 

[Paradoxium]

You get into Bilderberg from this little video? http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=EA65BDAE6BA3AAFC