Discussion: The Iraq War

Discussion in 'Politics' started by sinewave, Apr 13, 2006.

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  1. sinewave Registered

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    Okay, who still thinks that Bush didn't lie or distort the facts when trying to make a case for war with Iraq by accusing them of having WMD? Apparently Colin Powell didn't think Iraq posed an imminant nuclear threat while helping the Bush administration make their case for war with them. Check out this article, it's pretty good.

     
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  3. Assassin Detroit's Reckoning

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    well neither did I but nobody listens to me
     
  4. tomahawk53 Registered

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    Has Powell come out and said this yet?

    I mean I'm not necessarily doubting that Powell did say it but it seems to me that he's not really quoting Powell per say. He's only saying things like "Powell told me that...” ?
     
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    i don't know. i'll have to do some google searches to see if i can find any direct quotes. you'd think someone with their own book and website would be smart enough to know that making up quotes from prominent figures like powell is not a good idea, but who knows.
     
  6. roach I am the night

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    Look I hate to bring up the ever response to these type posts but you have to look at the source. Seriously If Powell came out and said "My bad we screwed up and lied about Iraq" you dont think it would be all over tv?????
     
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    well, i know that it has been discussed on hardball with chris matthews, so i assume it's real.
     
  8. roach I am the night

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    can you give me a link please
     
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    Um, Hardball is on MSNBC's website. Go from there.
     
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    Yeah I agree that's why I'm not "poo-pooing" it.
     
  11. roach I am the night

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    stranger things have happened
     
  12. jaguarr Be Your Own Hero

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    If this is true and Powell hasn't come forward and blown the lid off things formally, then he's just as much to blame as anyone else.

    jag
     
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  14. roach I am the night

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    From his interview......
    He doesn't blame former CIA Director George Tenet for the misleading information he says he pored over for days before delivering his speech; he faults the intelligence system.

    "George Tenet did not sit there for five days with me misleading me. He believed what he was giving to me was accurate. … The intelligence system did not work well," he said.

    Nonetheless, Powell said, some lower-level personnel in the intelligence community failed him and the country. "There were some people in the intelligence community who knew at that time that some of these sources were not good, and shouldn't be relied upon, and they didn't speak up. That devastated me," he said.

    While Powell ultimately supported the president's decision to invade Iraq, he acknowledges that he was hesitant about waging war. "I'm always a reluctant warrior. And I don't resent the term, I admire the term, but when the president decided that it was not tolerable for this regime to remain in violation of all these U.N. resolutions, I'm right there with him with the use of force," he said.
     
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    does that answer your questions?
     
  16. Darthphere Kneel before 'Drox!

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  17. roach I am the night

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    yes it did thank you
     
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    you're welcome.
     
  19. Matt IKYN Guy Groupie

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    sigh...I used to respect Powell.
     
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    But that's not what your original post says at all...?

    Your posts says that Powell flat out told the guy that it was Cheney's doing and that the president was in the know as well...While that "actual quote" says that Powell says that it was 'some lower-level personnel in the intelligence community failed him and the country' and doesn't even MENTION the VP....

    I'm still curious if he's changed his story about it now?

    He very well may have but the second quote contradicts the first one...
     
  21. sinewave Registered

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    they aren't the exact same quotes but it clearly expresses his feelings on iraq, pre-war. i thought the article at the beginning of this thread was believable enough.
     
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    It turns out that Iraq's prime minister was a spy for the CIA and he confirmed prior to the invasion that Iraq did not have the WMDs. When Bush asked Congress for the authority to got to war he didn't mention that part.

    to me that's an obivous distortion and manipulation of intelligence.
     
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    Right. I'm not arguing or questioning what his views are now. I just think that original story that was posted where the person says that Powell directly told him that it was all Cheney and stuff would be very damning in my eye to the admin (well to Cheney at least) and was wondering if that was true. I'm still not saying it's not true I would just like to 'hear it' from Powell's mouth if you know what I mean.

    I do wonder what's taken him so long to come out and say that he was against it though...? No backbone maybe...?
     
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    So because he's not a media ****e, he has no backbone?
     
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