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[marcofthebeast]

Has anyone mentioned The Watchmen... The Watchmen would tear him a new one when he's done reading it. People are suckers for thinking comics are an immature art medium, Art is what you make it.

 

[hippy fascist]

The problem is that people think comics are over-simplified and they have no great meaning.

Get him to read precher on the meaning front, I mean the whole series is an alegory for the state of organised religion that would make joyce proud

 

[MyPokerShirt]

^I read the first online issue. It kicks ass! I loved the way he went round the bar telling everybody all their secrets. gooooood stuff

 

[hippy fascist]

it only gets better!!!

 

[marcofthebeast]

The Preacher is amazing I started reading it sunday of last week and finished the thursday after. I read all 66 issue in five days I couldn't put it down.

 

[hippy fascist]

I mean saying comics are for kids is like saying the same about cartoons. What about the simpsons,god the devil and bob, south park, futurama, king of the hill...I could go on. My point is that while some comics are over simplified kids stuff people will always assume the rule applies accross the board.

 

[Elijya]

ok, if you want to talk a college professor into respecting comics, or at least not looking down on them, you don't give him Preacher or Watchmen.

Watchmen is still superheroes, and he wouldn't walk into it with an open mind because of that. You'd be better off with V for Vendetta if you want to go with Moore. V is BARELY a "superhero", with far deeper tones that come out more directly.

Preacher takes too long to get to the undertones, and all he'd see when he started reading would be sex, violence and vulgarity.

The best things to approach him with would be Road To Perdition, Y-The Last Man, certain key issues of Sandman (Three Septembers and a January, Ramadan, Men of Good Fortune, etc.) and the like.

He's an English Professor and it's a good bet he roles his eyes at all fictions which contain elements of fantasy, so if you want to open him to the medium of comics it should be through comics with a minimum of fantastical elements

 

[Elijya]

WOW! Thanks Horrorfan

And your right, I don't really give a crap about what others think about me. I would like for people to like me, but if the only reason you DISlike me is because I like comic books, then I don't wanna be your friend anyway.(you and your as in general, it's not directed to anyone.)
I've always been this way. I'm very independent minded, and never give into peer pressure. If I do something or like something, it's because I like it or want to do it, not becuase I have some need to "fit in".

Hey, then that's you and that's just a difference between us.

Personally, I see it as a ripple effect. I like a comic series, but it's not selling very well. So I tell some people about it, get them to try it out, and if it's as good for them as it is for me, they'll continue reading it, and better yet, pass on the word to others. If everyone does this, everyone checks out the book, sales increase, and I'm able to enjoy the book for longer because now it won't be canceled as soon. And plus, I'll have more people to talk about the series with. And as I've found out through this site, certain people have grown to trust my recommendations after liking several things I've told them about, so I'm able to repeat this process more quickly with more books.

Apply that on a larger scale: Very few people read comics these days, the market is quite small. If I convince someone who thinks comics are for kids otherwise by showing them things which will change their minds, the interest may be sparked for them to read more comics. And more and more. And eventually maybe be so into it, or at least certain books, that they in turn pass the word on to other friends of theirs. Now imagine if every comic fan did that? Just took some time to convince one or two friends to try comics too, to take the effort to find out what's going to appeal to them (because, let's face it, I'm not going to talk my Aunt into reading the Infinity Gauntlet. But I did show her Ex Machina and she took it home with her on the plane the other day and she loved it and wants to read more). That's the only way the industry will grow or survive. It's not automatic like it was 50 years ago when EVERY little kid read comics. If comics are to succede and last, it will be by word of mouth. And if more people start reading comics, your favorite titles will last longer. Prices won't increase because of falling sales. And if you're a fan of comic movies, increase popularity of the medium will lead to increased interest, and thus increased production in adaptations.

Where exactly is the negative in being positive with other people about something you love?

 

[The Hero]

Where exactly is the negative in being positive with other people about something you love?

Because he's a badass individualist who plays by his own set of rules,and and nobody else's,not even his own.

 

[hippy fascist]

Because he's a badass individualist who plays by his own set of rules,and and nobody else's,not even his own.

he's an outlaw, he's got the night on his side

 

[Elijya]

In 1972 a crack commando was sent to prison by a military court for a crime he didn't commit. This man promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, he survives as a soldier of fortune, and by making fun of children who like manga. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find him, maybe you can hire... SpeedballLives

 

[hippy fascist]

up:

 

[KingOfDreams]

ok, if you want to talk a college professor into respecting comics, or at least not looking down on them, you don't give him Preacher or Watchmen.

Watchmen is still superheroes, and he wouldn't walk into it with an open mind because of that. You'd be better off with V for Vendetta if you want to go with Moore. V is BARELY a "superhero", with far deeper tones that come out more directly.

Preacher takes too long to get to the undertones, and all he'd see when he started reading would be sex, violence and vulgarity.

The best things to approach him with would be Road To Perdition, Y-The Last Man, certain key issues of Sandman (Three Septembers and a January, Ramadan, Men of Good Fortune, etc.) and the like.

He's an English Professor and it's a good bet he roles his eyes at all fictions which contain elements of fantasy, so if you want to open him to the medium of comics it should be through comics with a minimum of fantastical elements

True. Actually, my professor last semester liked comic books. She thought they were a great way to teach kids how to read and understand sequences of events. I was pleasantly surprised.

 

[Speedball]

In 1972 a crack commando was sent to prison by a military court for a crime he didn't commit. This man promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, he survives as a soldier of fortune, and by making fun of children who like manga. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find him, maybe you can hire... SpeedballLives

LOL!!!
Am I apart of the A-team now?

 

[marcofthebeast]

ok, if you want to talk a college professor into respecting comics, or at least not looking down on them, you don't give him Preacher or Watchmen.

Watchmen is still superheroes, and he wouldn't walk into it with an open mind because of that. You'd be better off with V for Vendetta if you want to go with Moore. V is BARELY a "superhero", with far deeper tones that come out more directly.

Preacher takes too long to get to the undertones, and all he'd see when he started reading would be sex, violence and vulgarity.

The best things to approach him with would be Road To Perdition, Y-The Last Man, certain key issues of Sandman (Three Septembers and a January, Ramadan, Men of Good Fortune, etc.) and the like.

He's an English Professor and it's a good bet he roles his eyes at all fictions which contain elements of fantasy, so if you want to open him to the medium of comics it should be through comics with a minimum of fantastical elements

Yeah I do agree with you about the Superhero thing, from the type of person he seems to be he would immediatley dismiss it wether it would be good or not. Well he would certainly be missing out.

 

[Elijya]

I would say Road To Perdition would be a VERY good bet

 

[Cyrusbales]

A lot of cimics were forerunners for film techniques, THE SPIRIT springs to mind, and the influential nature of the pulps like shadow and spider are for all to behold!

Sin city comics/graphic novels are quite cool, they show an interesting neo-noir sublinear narrative structure, who posts a thing about distain for comics on a SUPER HERO HYPE forum?

 

[The Hero]

In 1972 a crack commando was sent to prison by a military court for a crime he didn't commit. This man promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, he survives as a soldier of fortune, and by making fun of children who like manga. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find him, maybe you can hire... SpeedballLives

See,this is why I spend so much time here.

 

[Speedball]

^I'm not sure if I should take what Elijya said as an insult or a compliment?