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Do you like the idea of two Flash's?

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There was an interview with Goyer confirming he'd have both Barry Allen and Wally West appearing in the film, do any of you like that idea or would rather have it focus on one?

Personally, I think it's great. They could start off the film with having Barry as the first Flash, and showing his days while wearing the mask. After he ends up retiring he decides someone should carry on the mantle, that being Wally West who the film would focus on for the entire time with Barry serving as his mentor. Still, the idea of having just one would play out nicely if done right.

What do you all think?
 
Yeah, I remember that interview clearly. And I have to say, I liked the idea of first having Barry, well considering he was my favorite Flash before Wally came along. I could see an old enemy of his threating him, then Wally comes in and just totally beats his ass down!! :)

Having a solo film would also work, of course.
 
Would be cool to have John Wesley Shipp play Barry in more of a cameo type appearance because I would want the MAJORITY of the focus to be on only one of them.
 
Elongated Man said:
Yeah, I remember that interview clearly. And I have to say, I liked the idea of first having Barry, well considering he was my favorite Flash before Wally came along. I could see an old enemy of his threating him, then Wally comes in and just totally beats his ass down!! :)

Having a solo film would also work, of course.

I'd rather have the concept of Barry discovering Wally has the same abilities like himself, then decides to take him under his wing while handing him the mantle. After, have the movie switches it's focus on Wally, who at the same time is trying to figure out in his own way to control his powers.

The Guard said:
Time travel. Legacies. Makes sense.

Exactly my point.
 
I'd rather it be Jay and Barry myself but either or I guess.
 
Way I see it, the film should center around Wally, with Flashbacks to Barry.
 
Kurosawa said:
I'd rather it be Jay and Barry myself but either or I guess.

Jay Garrick? A movie with Jay Garrick and Barry Allen would be wierd. Jay is Golden Age and doesn't have much of a connection with Barry Allen. Whereas Barry and Wally were both modern age, and are connected very easily (Wally served as Barry's sidekick for some time).
 
I guess it could work if done right but I would prefer if it was focused on one of them, especially Barry.
 
Kurosawa said:
I'd rather it be Jay and Barry myself but either or I guess.

Goyer only confirmed Barry and Wally being in the film. But before Barry and Wally, there were reports stating that the movie would focus on Jay being this astound athlete who ends up obtaining the speed. When Goyer announced Barry and Wally, it was in fact the producers that stated it would be Jay. Who knows, there's a slight chance we could end up having all three in one film channeling their own time of wearing the mask with Wally being the current one to uphold it. But only Goyer himself knows that for sure.

The Question said:
Way I see it, the film should center around Wally, with Flashbacks to Barry.

Could work. Probably have it show Barry mentoring Wally or when he passed on the mantle to him?

Katsuro said:
Jay Garrick? A movie with Jay Garrick and Barry Allen would be wierd. Jay is Golden Age and doesn't have much of a connection with Barry Allen. Whereas Barry and Wally were both modern age, and are connected very easily (Wally served as Barry's sidekick for some time).

Agreed.

Bruce_Wayne29 said:
I guess it could work if done right but I would prefer if it was focused on one of them, especially Barry.

Well, from the looks of it, we may end up seeing Barry mainly in the beginning as the first Flash.
 
Batman said:
Could work. Probably have it show Barry mentoring Wally or when he passed on the mantle to him?


And Barry dying. If they could, in the flashback, I'd have Wally, a few years younger, holding Barry's torn costume in his hands, and showing some of the other DC characters in the background. Like, grab Routh, Bale, whoever's playing Wonder Woman, and then just some random actors who look good for the part, and put them into costume for one shot.
 
The Question said:
And Barry dying. If they could, in the flashback, I'd have Wally, a few years younger, holding Barry's torn costume in his hands, and showing some of the other DC characters in the background. Like, grab Routh, Bale, whoever's playing Wonder Woman, and then just some random actors who look good for the part, and put them into costume for one shot.

This idea is something I could see on screen working really well. First show Barry taking Wally under his own training, like them taking speeding courses so Barry can watch Wally as he's growing run faster than he did the last. After have Barry showing his legacy to Wally, and everything Flash made him to be which of course inspires Wally to be even better. Then have his death be brought in to which eventually drives Wally to don the costume, and take where Barry left off. I like the idea of him holding the costume, and some of the other heroes appearing though that may not happen. Maybe a mention of some of them would work well.

One question though, how would you have Barry's death occur? Would it be by an old nemesis of his, or something else?
 
I'd say it was the Crisis. Have Wally say that there was a crisis. That everything that was was in danger. And that Barry died, saving countless billions of lives.
 
Katsuro said:
Jay Garrick? A movie with Jay Garrick and Barry Allen would be wierd. Jay is Golden Age and doesn't have much of a connection with Barry Allen. Whereas Barry and Wally were both modern age, and are connected very easily (Wally served as Barry's sidekick for some time).


Yeah right, Jays all over the Flash books and featured alot in others. I'd be cool if he's like the grandpa in the movie, just as like homage to the original Flash. I hope Wally's the Flash in it though. He is my favorite one. Maybe even throw in Bart.:)
 
Batman said:
I'd rather have the concept of Barry discovering Wally has the same abilities like himself, then decides to take him under his wing while handing him the mantle. After, have the movie switches it's focus on Wally, who at the same time is trying to figure out in his own way to control his powers.

Bats, I couldn't agree more.


:) :up:

Who would you have as the villain for the film, though? I think it's a thought that should be focused on.
 
Elongated Man said:
Bats, I couldn't agree more.


:) :up:

Who would you have as the villain for the film, though? I think it's a thought that should be focused on.

Hmm....I'd probably would have The Trickster be the first rouge Wally takes on when donning the mask and outfit. Trickster would be a short cameo, who's seen robbing a bank while Wally comes speeding through the streets to stop him. They exchange a few words, and Trickster reveals one of the tricks up his own sleeve. In the end, it would so Flash capturing him and delivering him to the authorities, after he's flooded with news reporters about saving the day and being Keystone's protecter. Then runs out of sight.

For the main villain however, it would be (if done right) Captain Cold. The only way to stop Flash is by freezing him dead in his tracks, it could be great to see the two fued. But like I said, that's only if it's done right and not like having him be a ripoff of Mr. Freeze in Batman and Robin. Some might want to him face against Zoom, but I for one don't. Reason being, it's most likely that Wally will still be going through the process of controlling his speed. So having him fight someone who's almost as equal as he is would be irrelevent, considering this is the first film.

I'd save Zoom for a possible sequel, that way Wally would have already established how fast he can go THEN the two can square off. Which would be decent since the requirement of alot of CGI would be needed. What they could do to set him up is toward the end of the film as Hunter Zolomon, and is shown gaining his powers of his own which enables him to become Zoom. Unlikely to happen I know, but nice to imagine.
 
i love the idea of having Barry being Wally's mentor and taking him under his wing, before passing away, and wally becoming the new Flash.
this thing better get made in the next couple years :(

captain cold for the main villian.
 
warren_sparta27 said:
i love the idea of having Barry being Wally's mentor and taking him under his wing, before passing away, and wally becoming the new Flash.
this thing better get made in the next couple years

With the script now being handed in, all that's needed is a proper director for the film. Though, was certain Goyer would be the one directing along with penning the adaption. We'll probably see the film around late 2008, or early 2009. Other than that, I just hope the basis of the characters are well established.

warren_sparta27 said:
captain cold for the main villian.

Agreed, if done right....
 
Batman said:
Hmm....I'd probably would have The Trickster be the first rouge Wally takes on when donning the mask and outfit. Trickster would be a short cameo, who's seen robbing a bank while Wally comes speeding through the streets to stop him. They exchange a few words, and Trickster reveals one of the tricks up his own sleeve. In the end, it would so Flash capturing him and delivering him to the authorities, after he's flooded with news reporters about saving the day and being Keystone's protecter. Then runs out of sight.

For the main villain however, it would be (if done right) Captain Cold. The only way to stop Flash is by freezing him dead in his tracks, it could be great to see the two fued. But like I said, that's only if it's done right and not like having him be a ripoff of Mr. Freeze in Batman and Robin. Some might want to him face against Zoom, but I for one don't. Reason being, it's most likely that Wally will still be going through the process of controlling his speed. So having him fight someone who's almost as equal as he is would be irrelevent, considering this is the first film.

I'd save Zoom for a possible sequel, that way Wally would have already established how fast he can go THEN the two can square off. Which would be decent since the requirement of alot of CGI would be needed. What they could do to set him up is toward the end of the film as Hunter Zolomon, and is shown gaining his powers of his own which enables him to become Zoom. Unlikely to happen I know, but nice to imagine.

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Batman, I bow down to you.
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I think it is good idea. Barry can be some kind of teacher for Wally.

Also, I think it would be good to have Weather Wizard as the main villian.

And as I can predict, filming will start in March 2007 and end in August 2007.

So movie will be realesed in May 2008.
 
really? you think it will be out that soon?
i would think it's more likey that it would come out in 2009, maybe start filming at the end of this year?
 
warren_sparta27 said:
really? you think it will be out that soon?
i would think it's more likey that it would come out in 2009, maybe start filming at the end of this year?

I think so, because casting will start at the end of this summer.
 
Cinemaman said:
Also, I think it would be good to have Weather Wizard as the main villain

Weather Wizard would make a great villain for Flash to face, especially seeing it on screen. But his is the same case as Captain Cold, it could work if it's done right. Also, I was thinking earlier that if they didn't want to use Trickster, The Top or Captain Boomerang would make decent cameos.
 
I think having two Flashes will be good because it would set the movie apart abit from other superhero/comic movies.

I would prefer it to focus on Wally West with flashbacks to him being mentored by Barry Allen.

If there's going to be a trilogy I would prefer these villains:

1: A small group of rogues with Captain Cold, Trickster and maybe Capt. Boomerang.
2: Weather Wizard and Mirror Master.
3: Mainly Zoom, but with all of the other Rogues thrown in too.
 

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