Does 4 arcs Per season work?

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It seems the only criticism i hear about this seems to be its apparent arcs.

I think one of the reasons for this is because the 4 or 3 episode arcs simply isn't enough time to flesh out most of the time required for a villain's storyline.

this season, the master planner, symbiote, gangland and goblin arcs all felt rushed.

while the Peter Parker aspect flowed through at a much slower pace, the development of the characters on teh show felt somewhat more sincere and was fleshed out.

Something like the return of eddie was hurried along with very little impact on the show (peter doesn't even mention his name after he's put away).

The same is said about the apparent Silvermane, who ends up in prison pretty much after his first apperance.

also the master planner's overall reveal, scheme and take down were all done a lil quickly and its impact on parker wasn't as effective as it could have been


Could the pace of the spiderman aspects work at a slower pace. maybe 2/3 arcs perseason. a long 5 part arc and two 3 part arcs.

or do you think the turnover of threats is required to keep the show's exposure to new characters at a decent rate?
 
It depends. For the most Arcs, it works. The problem comes when there are storylines that have far bigger potential than for 3-4 episodes which at the end makes them look unsatisfying and rushed. Examples, the Alien Suit/Venom Arc in Season 1 and the Master Planner and the Gang War Arcs in Season 2. Not that these Arcs were ruined or anything, on the contrary - they were fine. But they had stories with a bigger potential.

But then again, the show seem to try and connect the loose ends even after the Arc is done; for example, in continuation of the Master Planner Arc, Ock became the leader of the super-criminals, which elevated him to become an important figure of the city's underworld map; or how the whole Gang War between Tombstone, Silvermane and Ock was only a prelude for Green Goblin's try to seize control of the whole city.

But still, sometimes 3-4 episodes are not enough for the huge potential that some stories have.
 
Yea it really depends on the arc and what they are doing in it. I wouldnt want to see a seasonal arc that didnt really work that great for the 90s series.
 
I think two arcs per season would be enough. Don't get me wrong here, an arc doesn't mean keeping the same villain and characters in 6 or 7 episodes. But having a big plot slowly unveiling in the background as Spidey has his normal life fighting badguys works well.

Just take a look at the "filler" episodes we got, like the Sandman being good in his core one. That one was part of the Gang War arc yet it focused on Marko more. If they done stuff like this we could get some bigger and better detailed plots running.
 
Just take a look at the "filler" episodes we got, like the Sandman being good in his core one. That one was part of the Gang War arc yet it focused on Marko more. If they done stuff like this we could get some bigger and better detailed plots running.

That Marko one was actually part of the Symbiote arc.
 
I would prefer longer arc with filler episodes that tied everything together neatly.

not strict ep arcs but at least two running consistent themes.

say this season was dedicated to the master planner and gang wars solely with the next for venom and osborn's return.

i've always been the type of person who thinks if it can get told in an ep, tell it in an ep. If it can't take as long as it needs to do it justice. I wouldn't mind different arcs of different lengths but i guess they would have problems shifting the dvds. The funny thing is that JL 1hr long eps felt like they told a lot of story in the time however i actually preferred the season long themes with stories tying into each other from JLU. It took them two seasons to do the whole cadmus arc with elements from previous shows fleshed out.

maybe it's not the best way to go about things but i thought it was one of the better stories on the show. same goes for the first season of gargoyles and also the entire pheonix and dark pheonix saga in x-men which took an entire season to tell (about 8 eps in total to be honest).
 
I am totally fine with the current way they do the arcs. They move along at a decent pace and you get great character development with supporting characters, villain plots, climatic finishes to the arc, and setups for the next arc. Stories wrap up nicely without being dragged out for long periods of time. 3 to 4 episodes is enough time in my opinion to establish themes and move on to other stories. My only minor complaint was Venom's emergence in season one as I would have liked more Brock development but then again maybe there will be more to be explained since they chose to bring him in the series so early. They have a long past and the parents dying may be more of a catalyst than we think. But we shall see.
 
That Marko one was actually part of the Symbiote arc.

You're right, my bad. It's the episode setting up Venom's return. I confused it because Hammerhead made an appearance too.
 
I am totally fine with the current way they do the arcs. They move along at a decent pace and you get great character development with supporting characters, villain plots, climatic finishes to the arc, and setups for the next arc. Stories wrap up nicely without being dragged out for long periods of time. 3 to 4 episodes is enough time in my opinion to establish themes and move on to other stories. My only minor complaint was Venom's emergence in season one as I would have liked more Brock development but then again maybe there will be more to be explained since they chose to bring him in the series so early. They have a long past and the parents dying may be more of a catalyst than we think. But we shall see.
but the problem with venom is he has been overused

parker's not scared of the symbiote
he can emotinally blackmail the symbiote
he's not worried about eddie because he's apparently nuts
he's not worried about venom physically because he can and has taken him

venom's already been emasculated and overexposed. any additions to his use is just going to make him that less effective as a character.

he's not a slowburning character, he has one good story arc in his origin and everything else is pretty much a minor fizzle.
 
but the problem with venom is he has been overused

parker's not scared of the symbiote
he can emotinally blackmail the symbiote
he's not worried about eddie because he's apparently nuts
he's not worried about venom physically because he can and has taken him

venom's already been emasculated and overexposed. any additions to his use is just going to make him that less effective as a character.

he's not a slowburning character, he has one good story arc in his origin and everything else is pretty much a minor fizzle.

Exactly :up:
 
And I agree, I can not defend Venom. I have always found the character lacking anyways. His motivations for wanting Peter dead was never interesting in any medium IMO. So you get no argument out of me.
 

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