Superman Returns Does any one know what 6'3" and 225 pounds lean actually looks like?

I'll laugh if they have a scene with Routh w/out a shirt on. They won't because he'd look too small and then bigger in the suit(because it's a muscle suit)
 
the muscle suit is no more than half an inch thick and it's there because 1) the type of material that the suit is actually SHRINKS his body mass (as confirmed with the Superman Returns official movie guide) so they put extra 'muscle' to make up for the suit depressing Routh's and 2) to give the suit definition.

if Routh were to take his shirt off, he wouldn't look much different (build-wise) than with the suit on.
 
Lightning54SC said:
hes pushing 265 not 225

Is that why his head looks big ? :D

I never said he wasn't big, just that he looked "normal" or proportional.
 
Superman79 said:
I think he was talking about the Rock

I'd put him at closer to between 240 and 250, depending on the season. Some people have a very skewed perspective of weight versus body mass.
 
Does any one know what 6'3" and 225 pounds lean actually looks like?

first, roth was picked because he looks like christopher reeves, not because he looks like superman. so what's the point of your post?

second, your stats are way off. I've seen the Rock in person at a distance. he's like 6'1". arnold is 6'0" (shorter than Bush in pictures). every actor in hollywood inflates his height 2 inches. heights and weights for wrestlers are notoriously useless. Hulk hogan used to be listed as 6'8". he's more like 6'2"

third, have you ever lifted in your life? are you actually in the military? because your entire post is filled with jacked up numbers and you dont seem to know thing 1 about actual weight and muscle mass. first of all, if you're talking about athletic muscle mass you'd know that it's concentrated in the LEGS, LOWER body and TORSO. a lot of guys work on their upper body to look good but lack the strength in the lower body to actually fight, tackle or wrestle. you take a guy, all he does is live in the gym and you actually train him to fight you'd add 20-30 lbs to his lower body without changing the top at all. all your figures are off. EVEN MORE IMPORTANT, everyone who works out knows that there's DIFFERENT BODY TYPES. comparing 6'3" 225 for a mesomorph versus a endomorph is a JACK WASTE. things like how long your torso is, how long your limbs are, even how much neck you have dramatically affect your height/weight ratio

bottom line. your numbers mean jack. if you actually lifted you'd know this.

ps. what unit are you in and where are you stationed? who's your CO
 
lazur said:
I'd put him at closer to between 240 and 250, depending on the season. Some people have a very skewed perspective of weight versus body mass.

amen to that
 
wootbaby said:
first, roth was picked because he looks like christopher reeves, not because he looks like superman.




I believe lex could answer this for you...


WRONG!!

he was picked because he was the best man for the job.
 
wootbaby said:
first, roth was picked because he looks like christopher reeves, not because he looks like superman.
i'm not gonna argue with you about the rest of your post.....but the part i quoted is wrong. Singer was looking for an actor that has Supes and Clark in his everyday actions and mannerisms....Routh is that dude, he just happens to share a resemblance to Reeve...

...which isn't a bad thing considering most actors who were considered for Supes shared a resemblance to Reeve on one level or another.
 
^unless Singer screentested everyone on earth, you or him don't know he's the best to play the job. Singer has said himself that he picked him because he looks like Reeve.

second, your stats are way off. I've seen the Rock in person at a distance. he's like 6'1". arnold is 6'0" (shorter than Bush in pictures). every actor in hollywood inflates his height 2 inches. heights and weights for wrestlers are notoriously useless. Hulk hogan used to be listed as 6'8". he's more like 6'2"

You're an idiot. Hogan is 6'7, I've seen him in person. And Rock is 6'3-6'4.
 
Lightning54SC said:
hes pushing 265 not 225

In that specific picture, from "The Rundown", he was pushing 240. After that film, he cut down to 225 for "Walking Tall"
 
Mr. Socko said:
^unless Singer screentested everyone on earth, you or him don't know he's the best to play the job.
ADUURRRR!!!! gee....thank you Captain Obvious! i was talking about the actors that Singer auditioned.

Singer has said himself that he picked him because he looks like Reeve.
Singer also said he picked him because he saw Clark and Superman in his personality and mannerisms....so Singer had several reasons why he picked Routh, not just one. if Singer were looking for someone PRIMARILY because they looked like Reeve he could've easily gotten someone who looks even MORE like Reeve considering half the time Routh doesn't look like Reeve.

You're an idiot. Hogan is 6'7, I've seen him in person. And Rock is 6'3-6'4.

Hogan is 6'3 - 6'4
http://www.celebheights.com/s/Hulk-Hogan-464.html
 
I think Roth is passable to play Superman in this movie. I would like to see him hit the gym for the next one though. Kind of like how Jackman did for X-2 and Reeves did for Superman II.

The question of what 6'3" and 225 pounds looks like. That is really dependant on what the genetics of the individual are. There are two areas where a person can get the majority of their height from. Some have longer limbs and some have a longer torso. This will effect how that person muscle mass is developed greatly.

All people are basically broken down into 3 genetic types:
Ectomorph (skinny)/Mesomorph (naturally muscular)/Endomorph (more than average body fat).

This is not to say the people can borderline two different types but most lean heavier to one more than another. Given these genetic factors, skeletal structure and body fat people can be roughly the same height and weigh and look very different.

Being pretty active in the gym myself and only being 5’ 8 1/2” there are people who have assumed I am 220ish when in fact I only weigh in at about 187-193 depending on my water intake and if I have to take a dump or not. Bodybuilding is for the most part an illusion, and people body sculpt to enhance (hopefully proportionately) to their strengths and weaknesses as do they to achieve fitness goals.

All of that being said… Is Routh 225? Who knows… maybe, maybe not. In the end I could care less what the scale says as long as he “looks” like Superman.
 
Why is there still debate over this?

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Bale was the perfect Batman, including his size, and Routh towers over him. Looks like a pretty similar size difference to the comics, and Routh looks wide too. Besides, if we are going to start using credentials to "judge" how much he weighs, then I'm a NCAA swimmer, my team is very into our weight, and I can tell you that weights can be decieving. I look to be one of the smallest on my team, yet I'm only a few pounds behind some of the biggest kids.

Point is, Routh looks big when compared to many people around him, thats what matters. So you amateur body builders can quit *****ing about how you "know" how Routh is supposed to look. I'm an athlete who's paid to go to school, and I think he looks fine. So I win.
 
Denny67 said:
I think Roth is passable to play Superman in this movie. I would like to see him hit the gym for the next one though. Kind of like how Jackman did for X-2 and Reeves did for Superman II.

The question of what 6'3" and 225 pounds looks like. That is really dependant on what the genetics of the individual are. There are two areas where a person can get the majority of their height from. Some have longer limbs and some have a longer torso. This will effect how that person muscle mass is developed greatly.

All people are basically broken down into 3 genetic types:
Ectomorph (skinny)/Mesomorph (naturally muscular)/Endomorph (more than average body fat).

This is not to say the people can borderline two different types but most lean heavier to one more than another. Given these genetic factors, skeletal structure and body fat people can be roughly the same height and weigh and look very different.

Being pretty active in the gym myself and only being 5’ 8 1/2” there are people who have assumed I am 220ish when in fact I only weigh in at about 187-193 depending on my water intake and if I have to take a dump or not. Bodybuilding is for the most part an illusion, and people body sculpt to enhance (hopefully proportionately) to their strengths and weaknesses as do they to achieve fitness goals.

All of that being said… Is Routh 225? Who knows… maybe, maybe not. In the end I could care less what the scale says as long as he “looks” like Superman.


Good post, basically what I said also.
 
i really don't care how much he weighs....he still looks significantly bigger than he did BEFORE he started preparing for Superman...

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ROBOCOP CPU001 said:
really? it isn't considerd average.. 5.11 is considerd average in england.

not sure about the states..

US average male height is only 5'9" - and hasn't increased since WWII. In other countries the average has increased quite a bit since then.
 
Superman79 said:
OK, and pardon this, but is 6'3" REALLY that tall? Everybody makes it sound huge. I'm 6'3" and I really don't think of myself as that tall. My dad is 6' and my two younger bro's are 6'1" and 6'5" respectively. I always thought 6'3" was kind of average. At least in the midwest.

Something like .5 percent of men in the US are 6'3" or over. So yeah, it's tall, really tall. Not by comparison to how tall a person can really get (almost 9 feet) but in terms of how rare it is, yes it's tall. I.E. there are very few people taller than you.

In other countries it's not quite so tall because the average is much higher - it's closer to the centre of the bell-curve.
 
nosebleed said:
Even if Routh got as big as Bale for this movie his neck would still be small compared to Reeve.

In fact, Bale himself never had a thick neck (except in the cowl, of course). But still, the neck can be developed if you focus on it specifically, apparently, which they apparently neglected to do with Routh.
 
lujho said:
Something like .5 percent of men in the US are 6'3" or over. So yeah, it's tall, really tall. Not by comparison to how tall a person can really get (almost 9 feet) but in terms of how rare it is, yes it's tall. I.E. there are very few people taller than you.
In other countries it's not quite so tall because the average is much higher - it's closer to the centre of the bell-curve.

cool :up:
 
In the Superman Returns book there is a part where Martha looks at Clark and notices he looks smaller. It may be a long shot but we do know that Routh was told not to get very big and that Singer wanted a thinner Superman. Mabe that is why, a small detail to push the idea that he has been gone, passed out in a spaceship for nearly 6 years

Personally though the exact details of his size and weight don't matter to me. I'm not going to be measuring him up and down while I watch the film. As long as he nails the role i'm happy.
 

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